τίς οὖν ἡ παιδεία;

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τίς οὖν ἡ παιδεία;

Post by Constantinus Philo » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:32 pm

τίς οὖν ἡ παιδεία; ἢ χαλεπὸν εὑρεῖν βελτίω τῆς ὑπὸ τοῦ πολλοῦ χρόνου εὑρημένης; What is this education? Or is it difficult to find a better one than that which is found after a long time? Is this translation correct? The source is Plato but I do not know from where.
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Re: τίς οὖν ἡ παιδεία;

Post by seneca2008 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:27 pm

Τίς οὖν ἡ παιδεία; ἢ χαλεπὸν εὑρεῖν βελτίω τῆς ὑπὸ τοῦ πολλοῦ χρόνου ηὑρημένης;

Plat. Rep. 2.376e

What is this education then? Or is it difficult to find anything better than what has been discovered over many years?

Loeb translation.

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Re: τίς οὖν ἡ παιδεία;

Post by Constantinus Philo » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:02 am

thanx, it seems I have to improve my English as well.
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Re: τίς οὖν ἡ παιδεία;

Post by Rvdalex » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:55 am

Actually I think you gave a pretty good literal translation. Sometimes the literal comes out with funny English, and it just needs some polish.

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Re: τίς οὖν ἡ παιδεία;

Post by jeidsath » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:37 am

Contra the Loeb and Philo, I don't really think the articles are captured quite correctly. παιδεια has the article because it's "the education" they are inventing for their guardians. And I think πολλου χρονου is a definite period? Not any education invented after a long search. "this long time". Traditional education here in Athens.
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Re: τίς οὖν ἡ παιδεία;

Post by donhamiltontx » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:51 pm

Constantinus Philo wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:32 pm
τίς οὖν ἡ παιδεία; ἢ χαλεπὸν εὑρεῖν βελτίω τῆς ὑπὸ τοῦ πολλοῦ χρόνου εὑρημένης; What is this education? Or is it difficult to find a better one than that which is found after a long time? Is this translation correct? The source is Plato but I do not know from where.
Just by the by, sometimes but not always plugging a quotation into a search engine will lead, as in this case, to the source.
ἐς Τροίαν πειρώμενοι ἦνθον ᾿Αχαιοί,
καλλίστα παίδων: πείρᾳ θην πάντα τελεῖται.
Theocritus, Idyll 15

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