Where is the bathroom?

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Where is the bathroom?

Post by mahasacham » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:28 pm

Any thoughts on how one would say, "where is the toilette?" in ancient Greek....or it's equivalent, since toilets were a rarity back then?

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Re: Where is the bathroom?

Post by ἑκηβόλος » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:50 pm

Aristophanes, [i]Thesmophoriazusae[/i], 484, 485 wrote:στρόφος μ᾽ ἔχει τὴν γαστέρ ὦνερ κὠδύνη:
ἐς τὸν κοπρῶν᾽ οὖν ἔρχομαι.
Dear man, my bowels are doing backflips in my belly and I'm in quite some pain holding it back, so I am going to the ὁ κοπρών.
Thou wast not born for death, immortal Bird!
No hungry generations tread thee down;
The voice I hear this passing night was heard
In ancient days by emperor and clown:
(Keats, Ode to a nightingale, 1819).

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Re: Where is the bathroom?

Post by jeidsath » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:57 pm

Here are several suggestions from the Onomasticon:

Ἑπέσθω δὲ τούτοις καὶ τὰ εἰς ἀπόπατον, εἰς ἀποσκευήν, εἰς εὐμάρειαν, εἰς ἄφοδον, εἰς λάσανα, εἰς κοπρῶνα. τὸν δὲ κοπρῶνα καὶ ἰπνὸν Ἀριστοφάνης καλεῖ.

The above made me think of a comic fragment I saw earlier on the TLG. Cratin.49:

Τὸν Κερκύονά θ’ ἕωθεν ἀποπατοῦντ’ ἐπὶ
τοῖς λαχάνοις εὑρὼν ἀπέπνιξα.

Should τοῖς λαχάνοις be τοῖς λασάνοις? But the LSJ entry on λάσανα tells me that I am too late to make this conjecture: "Cratin.49 (cj. Mein. for λαχάνοις)"
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Re: Where is the bathroom?

Post by Markos » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:44 pm

ποῦ ἐστιν ὁ ἀφεδρών?

ποῖ ἐρχόμενος οὐρήσω?

τὸν μὲν οὖν τοῦ χέζειν τόπον ζητῶ ἔγωγε.
jeidsath wrote:Here are several suggestions from the Onomasticon:
You've mentioned this before, I think. It sounds like something I would be interested in. What is it? Do you have a link?
οὐ μανθάνω γράφειν, ἀλλὰ γράφω τοῦ μαθεῖν.

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Re: Where is the bathroom?

Post by jeidsath » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:49 pm

The Onomasticon of Julius Pollux. There is a scan here.

It is a vast vocabulary of Attic Greek, made in the 2nd century AD, organized by subject.
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