Absolutes

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Do you believe in an absolute right and wrong?

Yes.
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No.
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Keesa
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Post by Keesa » Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:18 pm

I believe in an absolute right and wrong.

I don't believe that truth changes with people's perceptions of it.

I also believe that the majority of the civilized and educated world will disagree with me.


I won't be around to defend myself for the next few days (so do go easy on me! :P ) but take that and run with it, and I'll catch up when I get a chance.

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Post by Mongoose42 » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:21 pm

Many people claiming to represent the "enlightened" community have claimed that there is no absolute truth, however such a belief is selfcontradictory (see the "we know nothing again" thread.

Often times the arguement over the existence of absolute truth is mistaken for the answer to questions that can not be proved by science, such as is there a god or a gravitational monkey.
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Post by Mongoose42 » Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:45 pm

"enlightened"=those who think they are abnormally bright
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Post by threewood14 » Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:48 pm

lol monkey.
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Post by Eureka » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:28 am

1. Define "goodness"


2. Define "badness"


3. Now do it without using relative terms


4. Don't put quotations around "enlightened"
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Post by threewood14 » Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:32 pm

goodness is something that will work for someones benefit or something that someone can give to another's benefit.

badness is something that will create conflict or a trait in someone causing conflict

is that right?
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Post by Mongoose42 » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:18 pm

How much time is something given to be of benefit for someone else?
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Post by threewood14 » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:42 pm

its all relative to what the benefit is
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Post by Mongoose42 » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:52 pm

A parent keeps his or her child from a weekend ski trip for no better reason than the person is a parent (kid's point of view)

Is this absolutly good or bad?

Kid doesn't go and everyone else ends up in an accident and in the hospital.

Has the qualification of good or bad changed?
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Post by threewood14 » Sat Apr 24, 2004 12:33 am

not only is the benefit relative but also the point in time...that is why i voted no
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