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peira/zwmen gra/phein e)n th^ E(llh/nika A)rchei/a

Post by ejkotynski » Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:28 pm

[Translation of the Topic line: Let us write in Ancient Greek]

I was thinking that it might be fun to start a topic of writing to one another in Classical Greek (it seems like all of these have been Latin) . . . So if anyone wishes, they can respond.

ἔδοκον ὅτι τερπνὸ εἴη γράπηειν ἐν τη^ ἑλλς/νικα γλω^σσα. οὐκ οἰ^δα ἐὰν τούτοις συμβόλοις [symbols] ξηρώμετηα . . . σκαιός [clumsy] εἰ^ναι δοκου^σι ἐμοὶ

[Translation: It seemed like it would be fun to write in the Greek language. I do not know whether we should use these symbols [i.e. diacritics] . . . they seem clumsy TO ME.]

Would it be better to say: pws echeis? or pw^s e)/cheis ?
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Post by nefercheprure » Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:00 pm

τις μὲν τὴν τόνωσιν οὐκ εἰδώς νομίζει ταύτην ἀθέτην τῶν δ’ ἄλλων αὕτη βοήθει.
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paraqou=mai, Neferxeprourh Vaenrh

Post by ejkotynski » Sat Feb 21, 2004 12:36 am

εδ τῶ νεφερχεπρουρη Vαενρη, παραθοῦμαι. οὐ μὲν ἐγὼ ἄγνως τονόσεως, ἐγώγε δοκῶ σκαιός ἐν τῶ ῥωμαικῶ ξαρακτήρι ξρῆσθαι τονόσει. ὅμως εὐξαριστῶ σοί. σύμφημι σοὶ δόχας περὶ αὐτῶ. ἀσπάζομαι
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Re: paraqou=mai, Neferxeprourh Vaenrh

Post by nefercheprure » Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:46 pm

νεφερξηεπρυρε εδι χαίρειν χαλεπὸς δὴ τονόσεων χρῆσθαι, κἀγὼ δ’ ἁμαρτάνω πολύ. πρέπει γὰρ τοῖς μαθηταῖς τὰ χαλεπὰ πόνειν, χαλεπῷ ἄρα τῷ πόνῷ ἑαυτοὺς παιδευουσι. οὐκ εἶπον ἐσὺ τόνοσιν ἄγνωναι, φανερὸς δέ, ὅτι ἀληθῶς τούτων οἶσθα χρώμενος. ἀλλὰ δεῖ μοι διδάσκειν σε περὶ τὸν ,,βητα‐κωδε’’. προσήκει γὰρ πᾶσι γράφειν τὸ ,,ξ’’ ὡς ἐν ,,ἕξω’’ καὶ ,,φύλαξ’’, καὶ το ,,χ’’ ἐν ,,ἔχω’’ τε ,,σχήσω’’ τε καὶ ,,πεφύλαχᾱ’. ἴδε
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ejkotynski wrote:... σύμφημι σοὶ δόχας περὶ αὐτῶ. ...
οὐ γὰρ οἶος τ’ εἰμὶ μανθάνειν τὰ ἐν "quote" λιπόμενα ἔρρωσο
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:D eu)xaristw=, fi/le mou!

Post by ejkotynski » Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:25 pm

Ed tw=| Nefercheprure,
au)= paraqou=mai
e)nenoh/sa o(\ su\ ei)=pes! eu)xaristw= pa/lin

ti/ to\ o)/noma/ soi a)lhqw=j;
o)/noma/ moi Edward . . . fi/loi mou kalou=si Edi.

patri\j me\n e)moi\ "Amerika", po/lla d) e)/th e)/trafhn e)n
xqwni/ "Indonesia/kh|". au)to\j h)rca/mhn manqa/nein th=| (Ellhnikh=|
glw/ssh! e)n tw=! u(/steron didaskalei/w| e)gw\ w)\n e)n "Philippinaj"
[to\ e)/toj h)=n 1998]. nu=n de\ telew= toi=j e)moi=j maqh/masi th=j
(Ellhnikh=j pro\j "Wheaton College" e)n "Amerika" e)/gguj po/lewj
tou= "Chicago".

pou= oi)kei=j; oi)=da o(/ti ei)= a)po\ "Prague, Czech Republic", a)lla\
qelo/menoj ma^llon gnw/somai kai\ o(po/te e)/maqej (Ellhnikh=|, ktl.
[kai\ ta\ loipa/]

xai=re
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Post by nefercheprure » Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:07 pm

Neferxeprourh tw=| )Edi xai/rein.

a)=r' e)cesti/ moi e)rrwta=n ti; ti/ ou=n shmai/nei to\ ,,paraqou=mai''; a)=ra se/ tis e)piti/qetai; a)=ra tis qa=tton dra/mei h)= su/; kai\ ei) e)neno/hsas, ti/ e)poi/hsas; a)=r' e)/laqes fobou/menos; a)=r' e)gela/sas e)/dws a(/tta ei)=pon;

fanero\n dh/ soi Edward e)sti tou)/noma. a)lla\ laqo/menon to\ e)n tw=| me/sw=| o)/noma. a)=r' o( )Iwa/nnhs, a)=r' o( )Ia/swn ei)=; to\ de\ panu/staton o)/noma/ sou dokei= moi Kotynsky ei)=nai. ei) alhqw=s fa/qi moi, a)=r' ou)/k e)sti tou)/noma e)k th=| Eu)rw/ph| th=| a)natolikh=|;

polu\ h)/dh e)/th manqa/nw i)di/a| (Ellhnisti/, to\ mo/non h(/misu e)/tos e)n tw=| Panepistemi/w| tou= Karo/lou dedi/dagmai.

diati/ ou)=n ou(=tw| e)rrwta=|s;

Ou)=tis e)moi/ g' o)noma, Ou)=tin de/ me kiklh/skousi
mh/thr h)de\ path\r h)de\ a)/lloi pa=ntes e(tai=roi.

e)/laqon me\n tou)/noma/ mou, dhlw/sw de/ soi tw)lhqe\s o)/noma ei) eu) ei)/dws o(/stis a)lhqw=s h)=n o( Neferxeprourh e)moi/g' e)rwtw=nti a)pokrinh|=

e)rrwso!
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Post by ejkotynski » Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:03 am

Ed tw=|Neferxeprourh xai/rein.

ei)=pes:
a)=r' e)xesti/ moi e)rrwta=n ti; ti/ ou=n shmai/nei to\ ,,paraqou=mai'';
ou) now= "paraqou=mai" a)lla\ "paraitou=mai"

:D

u(/steron gra/yw soi

e)/rrwso!
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w)= Neferxeprourh, e)/laqo/n ti

a)naginw=skein to\ teleutai=on me/ros th=j sh=j e)pistolh=s peira/sas, ou) du/namai sunie/nai tou+to:
dhlw/sw de/ soi tw)lhte\s o)/noma ei) eu) ei)/dws o(/stis a)lhqw=s h)=n o( Neferxeprourh e)moi/g' e)rwtw=nti a)pokrinh|=

ei) dokei= soi, tau)ta\ le/ge e)n toi=s a)/llois lo/gois.

kai\ ti/ shmai/nei "tw)lhte\s"; e)nnoei=s "tw)lhqe\s";

e)/xw soi xa/rin

e)/rrwso!
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Post by nefercheprure » Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:00 am

ejkotynski wrote: kai\ ti/ shmai/nei "tw)lhte\s"; e)nnoei=s "tw)lhqe\s";
eu)= oi)=sqa a(/tta le/goimi a)/n.

a)pole/gw tw=n xeirw=n a(martousw=n.
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Post by chad » Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:16 am

[size=200]ὑμῖν πολλὰ χαίρειν. ἐὰν γράφητε σὺν τοῖς μεγάλοις γραμμάτοις, ὑμῖν ἡδέως διαλέξομαι· ἔρρωσθε.[/size]

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Post by nefercheprure » Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:02 pm

chad wrote:u(mi=n polla_ xai/rein. e0a_n gra&fhte su\n toi~j mega&loij gramma&toij, u(mi=n h(de/wj diale/comai: e1rrwsqe.
e)a\n su/ mh\ grayh|s su\n toi=s ,,0'' kai\ ,,&'' ra|/wn manqa/nw o(ti legois a)/n.

tou=s de\ th=s a)gora=s fu/lakas ai)tou=. oi( dh\ oi(/oi t' ei)si/ soi boh/qein.

e)a\n to\
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ou) nomi/zousi a)lla\ to\
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k.t.l., e)cesti\ dh\ ta\ gra/mmata tw=| brwu/seri mei/zona poiei=n.

Mozilla du/natai ta\ gra/mmata mei/zona poiei=n, kai/per su\n to\
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Internet Explored ou) du/natai ou)/den...

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Post by chad » Sat Mar 27, 2004 2:32 am

[size=200]Νεφερχεπρούρῃ χαίρειν. ἔξεστί σοι ῥᾳδίως χρῆσθαι ἐνταῦθα[/size]

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[size=200]ἵνα τὰ γράμματα ἐπαυξάνῃς. ἆρα πάλαι ταύτην τὴν γλῶτταν ἐκμανθάνεις; ἔρρωσθε.[/size]

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Ed tw=! chad

Post by ejkotynski » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:47 am

w)= chad!

i)/de
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Post by chad » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:00 am

[size=200]ταύτῃ οὖν γράψω. γραπτέον ἐστι τὰς ὀξύτητας ἡμῖν, ἐμοὶ ἂν ἐδόκει, καὶ εἰ σκαιαί εἰσιν, ἵνα ἀμέλωμεν μήτε τῆς εὐρυθμίας μήτε τοῦ τόνου τῶν ῥημάτων. περὶ τῶν ὀξυτήτων, ἴδε·[/size]

[face=Arial]http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/pt ... Crat.+399a[/face]

[size=200]ῥᾳδίως καὶ εὖ γράφειν μοι δοκεῖτε·ἀρ’ οὐ πάλαι μανθάνετε, ὦ νεφερχεπρούρε καὶ εδ; ἔρρωσθε.[/size]

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Post by nefercheprure » Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:59 pm

chad wrote:Νεφερχεπρούρῃ χαίρειν. ἔξεστί σοι ῥᾳδίως χρῆσθαι ἐνταῦθα

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ἵνα τὰ γράμματα ἐπαυξάνῃς. ἆρα πάλαι ταύτην τὴν γλῶτταν ἐκμανθάνεις; ἔρρωσθε.
kai\ tau=t' e)sti w(s oi( Brettanikoi\ kiklh/skousi ,,kludge''
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pau=sai!

Post by ejkotynski » Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:50 pm

i)/de, i)/de

pau=son to\n lo/gon pere\ to/nwn kai\ tw=n grammatw=n.
e)n tau/th| th=| a)gora=| gra/ywmen kata\ tro/pon o(/s ge/graptai
w(=de: viewtopic.php?t=111
h)/ toi gra/fe homoi/ws h)\ lei=pe. gra/ywmen ou(/tws i(/na pa/ntes duna/meqa a)naginw/skein.

gra/fwmen peri\ tw=n a)/llwn pragma/twn :!:

noei=s;

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peri th=j e)mh=s e)rwth/sews

Post by ejkotynski » Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:17 pm

Ed tw=| Neferxeprourh,
ei)/amai e)rwta=n ma=llon a(/pac;

pro/teron e)rw/thsa w(=de:

ei) dokei= soi, tau)ta\ le/ge e)n toi=s a)/llois lo/gois
ei) eu) ei)/dws o(/stis a)lhqw=s h)=n o( Neferxeprourh e)moi/g' e)rwtw=nti a)pokrinh|=
ou)k me\n oi)=da o(/s e)stin Neferxeprourh, oi)=da de\ o(/ti Odusseu/ e)stin o( a)nh\r o(\n le/geis o(/te parati/qhs tou\s lo/gous tou= (Omh/rou:
Ou)=tis e)moi/ g' o)noma, Ou)=tin de/ me kiklh/skousi
mh/thr h)de\ path\r h)de\ a)/lloi pa=ntes e(tai=roi.
e)/rrwso,
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Post by chad » Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:48 am

a)lla\ me/ntoi g' i)/de:

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For representing Greek on Textkit.com, we've basically settled on using the SPIonic font.
kai\ dh\ to\ tou= SP )Ionikou= e)n tau/th| th| a)gora=| polla/kis xrh=tai, oi)=on:

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a)lla\ ou)/ moi me/lei, ou)k ga\r oi)=mai ei)=nai ti h(mi=n tou=to.

melw/ e)n tw=| paro/nti tou= peri\ tou= stefa/nou lo/gou (brade/ws)... ti/ me\n a)nagignw/skete; e)/rrwsqe.

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peri\ tw=n gramma/twn

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εδ τῷ [face=Arial]chad[/face] χαίρειν εὐχαριστῶ σοι τὸ [face=Arial]"website"[/face] περὶ [face=Arial]SPIonic[/face] νομίζω ἡμᾶς ἀγανακτεῖν περὶ τῆς σῆς προσωδίας οὐκ ὅτι σὺ χρήσῃ [face=Arial]"SPIonic"[/face], ἄλλα ὅτι [face=Arial]"SPIonic"[/face] σοῦ ἔχει τοὺς χαρακτῆρας οἳ οὐδεὶς δύναμαι ἀναγινώσκειν εἰ μὴ ἔχει τὸ [face=Arial]"SPIonic Font"[/face]. εἰ χρήσῃ [face=Arial]SPIonic[/face], χρήσου τούτοις τοῖς χαρακτηρσί καὶ τὸ [face=Arial]"Font Settings"[/face]

"Default, Large, SPIonic"




εἰ δοκεῖ σοι, μὴ χρήσου τοῖς χαρακτηρσί ὁμοίοις τῷ [face=Arial]"&"[/face] ἢ τῷ [face=Arial]"%"[/face] περὶ τῆς ἀγοραῆς, οὐ νοῶ τὴν ὅλην ἀγορὰν, ἄλλα μόνον ταὐτην τὴν σμικρὴν ἀγοράν. παραιτοῦμαι διὰ τὴν ταραχήν. καὶ γ) ἐγὼ παραιτοῦμαι διά τινα λόγον ὃν ἔλεξα πρότερον ἔρρωσο ε
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Post by chad » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:24 am

[size=150]τῷ εδ πολλὰ χαίρειν, μὴ παραιτοῦ, ὦ εδ, καὶ γὰρ τοῦτο ὀρθόν, ὅτι οὐ γράφομεν ἐνταῦθα ὅπως μάτην λέγωμον, ἀλλὰ ὅπως ῥᾷστα συννοώμεθα καὶ σὺν ὡς πλεῖστα διαλεγώμεθα, ὥστε θαρρῶν σὺν ἀμφοτέροις τρόποις γράψω. καὶ δὴ ἐγώγε, ἄπειρος ῶν καὶ τὸν διδάσκαλον οὐκ ἔχων, τῷ σύν σοί τε καὶ νεφερχεπρουρῃ καὶ τοῖς ἄλλοις διαλέγεσθαι, ἐλπίζω διδάσκεσθαι βέλτιον γράφειν. ὥστε βουλοίμην ἄν σε, ὦ εδ, φαίνειν τίνα τρόπον μεμάθηκε εὖ γράφειν, ἢ τῷ πολὺ ἀναγιγνώσκειν, ἢ τάχα τῷ ἐπιτηδεύειν μετὰ τοῖς συγγραμμάτοις, οἶα[/size][face=Arial] "north & hillard", "sidgwick".[/face][size=150] χαῖρε.[/size]

[face=Arial]tw=| Ed polla\ xai/rein,

mh\ paraitou=, w)= Ed, kai\ ga\r tou=to o)rqo/n, o(/ti ou) gra/fomen e)ntau=qa o(/pws ma/thn le/gwmon, a)lla\ o(/pws r(a=|sta sunnow/meqa kai\ su\n w(s plei=sta dialegw/meqa, w(/ste qarrw=n su\n a)mfote/rois tro/pois gra/yw. kai\ dh\ e)gw/ge, a)/peiros w=n kai\ to\n dida/skalon ou)k e)/xwn, tw=| su/n soi/ te kai\ Neferxeprourh| kai\ toi=s a)/llois diale/gesqai, e)lpi/zw dida/skesqai be/ltion gra/fein. w(/ste bouloi/mhn a)/n se, w)= Ed, fai/nein ti/na tro/pon mema/qhke eu)= gra/fein, h)\ tw=| polu\ a)nagignw/skein, h)\ ta/xa tw=| e)pithdeu/ein meta\ toi=s suggramma/tois, oi)=a "north & hillard's", "sidgwick's". xai=re.
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