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by RandyGibbons
Sun May 05, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Reading Greek without hurting back and neck
Replies: 16
Views: 2006

Re: Reading Greek without hurting back and neck

Well, exorcist, you've broached the dirty little secret none of us like to talk about: Greek is a pain in the neck. And I have to admit I resent the Greeks for making me feel like I was a barbarian living a useless life before becoming an Atticus. But, seriously, I too have had neck and back issues ...
by RandyGibbons
Sat May 04, 2019 6:12 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Reading Greek without hurting back and neck
Replies: 16
Views: 2006

Re: Reading Greek without hurting back and neck

Here is my solution:

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by RandyGibbons
Thu May 02, 2019 7:06 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Colour-coded Greek texts
Replies: 9
Views: 1197

Re: Colour-coded Greek texts

Hi Sean. I would feel bad if I left you believing I was being serious, when I was only pulling your leg :lol: . I'm afraid I was reacting to the notion of reading sentences by looking for their (in your wish, color-coded) parts of speech, which to me is not reading at all. But in any case, the only ...
by RandyGibbons
Wed May 01, 2019 1:51 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Colour-coded Greek texts
Replies: 9
Views: 1197

Re: Colour-coded Greek texts

Hi seanjonesbw. Just as fyi, I seem to remember reading something like the following. I'll do my best to recall it from memory, and perhaps someone else will know the specifics. There was a school of Hellenistic philosophy, I believe a descendant of the Peripatetic school, that published a theoretic...
by RandyGibbons
Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: Latin Poetry
Topic: Introduction to Latin poetry
Replies: 22
Views: 4177

Re: Introduction to Latin poetry

Understood, of course. But for myself I believe a well-done oral presentation with examples (distributed as a video) would greatly complement if not almost substitute for the tedium of the gobs of written introductions that exist. Hearing versus reading information about. (Roberto/Bedwere - As Micha...
by RandyGibbons
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: Latin Poetry
Topic: Introduction to Latin poetry
Replies: 22
Views: 4177

Re: Introduction to Latin poetry

Michael/mwh wrote Randy, Sorry, I have other fish to fry. Alright Hylander, that leaves you. Are you feeling the pressure?! Seriously, though, from my perspective, as one who would benefit greatly from it, I think this would be awesome for someone to do. Any ideas, anyone, about any other candidates?
by RandyGibbons
Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:43 pm
Forum: Latin Poetry
Topic: Introduction to Latin poetry
Replies: 22
Views: 4177

Re: Introduction to Latin poetry

DESIDERATUM: Michael and Hylander, it would be awesome for one of you or someone with equivalently deep knowledge to create a Latin poetry instructional video illustrating all these (excellent) points.
by RandyGibbons
Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:36 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is this called reading Caesar?
Replies: 35
Views: 6765

Re: Is this called reading Caesar?

If I could start over again, moving back some years in time, I'd do this from the beginning.

Amen. Again, I highly recommending getting Hoyos' complete pamphlet.
by RandyGibbons
Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Augustine, de civitas dei, book xi, ch.ii
Replies: 4
Views: 635

Re: Augustine, de civitas dei, book xi, ch.ii

et illic discere ex ipso: This seemed clear. The only problem I had was the antecedent of ipso. After much thought, I concluded that the antecedent was a phrase in the sentence, which accounted for the neuter gender. Trying to figure this out for myself, before consulting a translation, I wasn't su...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:28 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Augustine, de civitas dei, book xi, ch.ii
Replies: 4
Views: 635

Re: Augustine, de civitas dei, book xi, ch.ii

et illic discere ex ipso, quod cunctam naturam, quae non est quod ipse, non fecit nisi ipse Hi Hugh. I'm not sure where you're stumbling, grammatically, on this. (Not that I was sure of the meaning until I checked my Dyson translation.) Could you go through the phrase word by word and pinpoint wher...
by RandyGibbons
Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:54 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ørberg’s Lingua Latina series
Replies: 49
Views: 7609

Re: Ørberg’s Lingua Latina series

Is it ac or āc?
I definitely do not know. It was probably āc when your baby was agitating. But here's a challenge I'll throw out there (without knowing the answer): Is there a hypothetical use and position of ac in poetry that would tell us whether its ă or ā?
by RandyGibbons
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:51 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How far does Lingua Latina take you? (See inside)
Replies: 2
Views: 688

Re: How far does Lingua Latina take you? (See inside)

Lingua Latina, Pars I: Familia Romana followed by Lingua Latina, Pars II: Roma Aeterna are about exactly equivalent to four years of high school Latin. It's just, as you note, a very different approach to the same material (LL covers grammar just as much as any other textbook).
by RandyGibbons
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ørberg’s Lingua Latina series
Replies: 49
Views: 7609

Re: Ørberg’s Lingua Latina series

I don't know what you mean by "the unpronounceable-looking nature of ac". But if I understand your question correctly, ac is not Ørberg's abbreviation of atque , they are alternative forms of the conjunction, both used widely. From the online Latin dictionary Glossa: atque or āc (atque is used befor...
by RandyGibbons
Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:12 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: αὐτίκα v. ἤδη
Replies: 19
Views: 2368

Re: αὐτίκα v. ἤδη

Hi Lukas. As a follow up to your post: I happened to be reading the following sentence this morning: ἡ δὲ ἰητρικὴ νῦν τε καὶ αὐτίκα οὐ τὸ αὐτὸ ποιεῖ ... This is from a medical work called "On places in man" from a group of medical writings called the "Hippocratic Corpus". These are written in the Io...
by RandyGibbons
Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Thucydides with facing vocab and commentary?
Replies: 6
Views: 1108

Re: Thucydides with facing vocab and commentary?

I don't know of one and kind of doubt you're going to find such, at least in English. But in addition to the Textkit thread you linked to, here's another one that has some very helpful information about resources (see especially the contributions of John W.).
by RandyGibbons
Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Greek Recommended Word Processing Software
Replies: 24
Views: 3117

Re: Classical Greek Recommended Word Processing Software

I do too. That's why I asked for a little more detail on the SIL option.
by RandyGibbons
Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:24 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: αὐτίκα v. ἤδη
Replies: 19
Views: 2368

Re: αὐτίκα v. ἤδη

Sorry, my mistake. The numeric keys are the deadkeys, not the Function Keys. Substitute 1 for F1 and 6 for F6 in what I told you. Most of all, look at the documentation for yourself.
by RandyGibbons
Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:13 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Greek Recommended Word Processing Software
Replies: 24
Views: 3117

Re: Classical Greek Recommended Word Processing Software

Hi Will. As far as the original question goes, it's for now a moot point, since Lukas has opted for GreekKeys2015. But strictly out of curiosity, from fooling around with SIL a few years ago, I recall they had two polytonic Greek keyboards, one built on MS Keyboard Layout Creator (MSKLC - this is th...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:58 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: αὐτίκα v. ἤδη
Replies: 19
Views: 2368

Re: αὐτίκα v. ἤδη

Re GreekKeys. You say "if I type accent". Which key(s) do you mean by that? Maybe you're not using the deadkeys (the Function keys). For example, having switched to GreekKeys, type χ type F1 (this is a "deadkey", you won't see anything displayed) type α type ρ result: χάρ type F6 (this is a "deadkey...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:05 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: αὐτίκα v. ἤδη
Replies: 19
Views: 2368

Re: αὐτίκα v. ἤδη

Ι get more space then I want when typing accents with Greekkeys2015
Purely out of curiosity, are you referring to space between letters? between the letter and the diacritic above it?
by RandyGibbons
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:29 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: A definite article to represent "One"?
Replies: 9
Views: 1156

Re: A definite article to represent "One"?

The goal in learning Greek (or any other language) is to think in that language, to be able to operate exclusively in that language (read, speak, or write - mostly for Greek that will be read), to turn off English in your brain and turn on Greek, as it were. But what sometimes happens is that the st...
by RandyGibbons
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: A definite article to represent "One"?
Replies: 9
Views: 1156

Re: A definite article to represent "One"?

Hi Lucas. In these exercises, you are translating from English to Greek. To one of your earlier posts, I urged you to think about the English you're being asked to translate. Michael/mwh objected to that, for reasons I understand. But all I meant was: You're being asked to render something utilizing...
by RandyGibbons
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ørberg’s Lingua Latina series
Replies: 49
Views: 7609

Re: Ørberg’s Lingua Latina series

5 chapters of Familia Romana?

Whatever it is, don't be in a rush! Read with humility, charity, and curiosity, as one of my professors says. Ørberg is telling you a carefully crafted story - enjoy it!
by RandyGibbons
Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:02 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ørberg’s Lingua Latina series
Replies: 49
Views: 7609

Re: Ørberg’s Lingua Latina series

Roma in Italia est . What more of an introduction do you need? It covers the same ground as any other introductory Latin text. Yes, targeted at "classical" Latin, though I'm not sure what that is or is opposed to. (By the way, the Grammatica Latina entry in the Ørberg series is a very convenient, l...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:15 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Giving a reasonable instead of one's best effort at reading unadapted Greek?
Replies: 22
Views: 2774

Re: Giving a reasonable instead of one's best effort at reading unadapted Greek?

Thanks, Joel, that worked. Here is the thread I was referring to. My mistake, though, you (Joel) said "read lots of crap", not lots of junk :lol: .
by RandyGibbons
Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Giving a reasonable instead of one's best effort at reading unadapted Greek?
Replies: 22
Views: 2774

Re: Giving a reasonable instead of one's best effort at reading unadapted Greek?

(Randy to Joel:) Searching on "junk" yielded one, inapplicable hit ("junk Virgil"). Searching on "intermediate Greek readers" crashed my session, in multiple attempts over about twenty minutes. You must know the thread I'm talking about. I think you created it by providing a list of the intermediate...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Giving a reasonable instead of one's best effort at reading unadapted Greek?
Replies: 22
Views: 2774

Re: Giving a reasonable instead of one's best effort at reading unadapted Greek?

Hi exorcist (sorry, but that's weird!). A few years ago there was a wild and woolly thread on Textkit about the quality of, and the value of reading, for purposes of becoming fluent, "made-up" Greek (ancient Greek composed by moderns for entertainment or pedagogical purposes). In that thread, Joel (...
by RandyGibbons
Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Two More Unit 10 Questions
Replies: 15
Views: 1798

Re: Two More Unit 10 Questions

Hi Lukas. Also go with whatever mwh says; he is a college professor of Greek and articulates matters of grammar much better than I! I'd just repeat that I think the takeaway here is you need to get comfortable with the accusative + infinitive construction. In my opinion, you should have everything y...
by RandyGibbons
Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Two More Unit 10 Questions
Replies: 15
Views: 1798

Re: Two More Unit 10 Questions

Hi Lucas. As Joel (jeidsath) says, impersonal verbs* like ἀνάγχη and δεῖ and χρή (with ἐστι usually left unexpressed but understood) and ἔξεστι and πρέπει and others govern a construction usually dubbed 'accusative plus infinitive'. Think about the English. In English, the phrase 'It is necessary th...
by RandyGibbons
Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:16 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ἔστι
Replies: 22
Views: 2570

Re: ἔστι

Hi Lucas. You clarified your question for Callisper, and I'm sure he will respond. But here's mine: [does] an unemphatic ἔστι [have] to be at the beginning of a sentence or phrase if preceded by a proclitic? Emphatically, NO! And it has nothing to do with whether or not it is preceded by a proclitic...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ἔστι
Replies: 22
Views: 2570

Re: ἔστι

Thanks Lucas for posting the answer sentence. I was forgetting about Smyth rule 187b!

By the way, it pays to search in Textkit: See this.
by RandyGibbons
Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ἔστι
Replies: 22
Views: 2570

Re: ἔστι

Hi Lukas. I wrote, "Τοις πλειστοις η ηδονη ουκ το μετρον της αρετης ἔστι." One minor point: Before a word beginning with a consonant it is οὐ, not οὐκ. The answer book wrote, "Τοις πλειστοις η ηδονη ουκ ἔστι. το μετρον της αρετης. Actually, I don't think that's what the answer book wrote! Setting as...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:23 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ειμι with Predicate Adjectives
Replies: 1
Views: 330

Re: ειμι with Predicate Adjectives

Your answer was fine, since in Greek literature the verb εἰμι is often omitted but understood.
by RandyGibbons
Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Translating "to" into Greek
Replies: 12
Views: 1218

Re: Translating "to" into Greek

Hi Lucas. Welcome to Textkit. The simple answer to your question is that there is no rule on how to translate English "to" into Greek. Most often it will be either as an indirect object (i.e., the dative, as is generally the case with ἐπιτρέπειν) or as a prepositional phrase (with several candidate ...
by RandyGibbons
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:54 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Word Order with εξεστι?
Replies: 20
Views: 1845

Re: Word Order with εξεστι?

οὐκ in this sentence goes with ἔξεστι, not ἔχειν. Show us a couple of the sentences you're referring to that have both ἔξεστι and μή, and maybe we can show you the difference. (If some day you study an advanced grammar - not saying you should do that at this point in your learning - you'll see that ...
by RandyGibbons
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:56 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Greek Recommended Word Processing Software
Replies: 24
Views: 3117

Re: Classical Greek Recommended Word Processing Software

Then I think you'll need to go with one or the other (or both) of the options I mentioned. Sorry that Callisper finds them burdensome, but I type with them about as easily as I type English (as do dozens of others I know) - practice makes perfect. I'm amazed Microsoft let you get away with remaining...
by RandyGibbons
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:08 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Greek Recommended Word Processing Software
Replies: 24
Views: 3117

Re: Classical Greek Recommended Word Processing Software

The two options I am familiar with are GreekKeys 2015 from the Society for Classical Studies (SCS, formerly the American Philological Association), purchasable for a modest charge, and the Greek Polytonic Unicode keyboard which is free for Windows (search on 'Greek Polytonic Keyboard' for a long lis...
by RandyGibbons
Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:53 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Word Order with εξεστι?
Replies: 20
Views: 1845

Re: Word Order with εξεστι?

Hi Lucas, and welcome to Textkit. My instinct is to say there is no such thing in ancient Greek as a "preferred" word order in constructions with a particular word (ἔξεστι in your example), and in discussing ancient Greek word order I would avoid the word "preferred" altogether ("common" is better, ...
by RandyGibbons
Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: looking for help about a sentence in Ammianus
Replies: 6
Views: 990

Re: looking for help about a sentence in Ammianus

Quae licet adfectabat, erant tamen haec et alia quaedam in citeriore vita patientiae non mediocris indicia, ut existimari dabatur, uni illi concessae. Hi ohwnova. I have no idea what the context here is (I'd love to know, out of curiosity, why you're reading Ammianus), but I'll take a shot at it jus...