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by RandyGibbons
Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:32 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is this called reading Caesar?
Replies: 35
Views: 6732

Re: Is this called reading Caesar?

Hi pin130. I was looking for this thread because I wanted to refresh my memory on what it said about Hathitrust. But now that I'm looking at it, I see that I never noticed Aetos' recommendation of the Hale method, which I heartily second. You wrote In order to suspend numerous interpretations in you...
by RandyGibbons
Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:21 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is this called reading Caesar?
Replies: 35
Views: 6732

Re: Is this called reading Caesar?

Just an update on Hathitrust. There is a note dated March 4, 2019 on the SourceForge site you linked us to, Nesrad, that says due to changes at Hathitrust, this Download Helper app no longer works. To my knowledge, there's only three ways to download anything from Hathitrust. If you have a verifiabl...
by RandyGibbons
Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: how to use New Athens Unicode
Replies: 6
Views: 645

Re: how to use New Athens Unicode

Bleat us some Greek writing your next time around!
by RandyGibbons
Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:21 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Aug. de civitate dei
Replies: 5
Views: 718

Re: Aug. de civitate dei

Hi Hugh. I always enjoy hearing about your progress and equally about your impressions of Augustine (and previously Erasmus). A lot us vow to ourselves that we're going to read such-and-such in its entirety, regardless of how long that will take. Reality usually intervenes. Glad to see you're sticki...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:07 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: how to use New Athens Unicode
Replies: 6
Views: 645

Re: how to use New Athens Unicode

seanthesheep, when you say "New Athens Unicode", are you talking about the font that comes (optionally) with the GreekKeys2015 keyboard from the Society for Classical Studies (formerly American Philological Association)? If so, and if you've installed GreekKeys, you should have a folder called Greek...
by RandyGibbons
Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: -της και -ευς
Replies: 5
Views: 574

Re: -της και -ευς

Oh, I don't know, maybe that one begins with τη and the other with ευ?

Could you be more specific? Are you asking why some nouns are formed out of one, some out of the other? Do you have examples to illustrate your dilemma?
by RandyGibbons
Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:02 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Brainstorming for a dissertation in Greek
Replies: 11
Views: 1509

Re: Brainstorming for a dissertation in Greek

I DO wish you luck!
by RandyGibbons
Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Brainstorming for a dissertation in Greek
Replies: 11
Views: 1509

Re: Brainstorming for a dissertation in Greek

Classical/Archaic Greece: To narrow that down, do you happen to have a preference for poetry or history or philosophy or oratory?
by RandyGibbons
Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:17 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Brainstorming for a dissertation in Greek
Replies: 11
Views: 1509

Re: Brainstorming for a dissertation in Greek

Please clarify whether you are actually writing the dissertation in Greek, or by "in Greek" you mean simply a topic from the world of ancient Greece.

Your request is pretty open-ended. Surely you have some special interests that would narrow down the potential list of topics?
by RandyGibbons
Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:12 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: A Super Bowl Sunday treat
Replies: 7
Views: 7226

Re: A Super Bowl Sunday treat

Πρῶτον μὲν τῷ Brady πρέπει ἀναπαύεσθαι, ἔπειτα δὲ Ἡιπποκράτους Περὶ τῶν ἐν κεφαλῇ τρωμάτων ἀναγιγνώσκειν.
by RandyGibbons
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Jerome and the Lion Latin
Replies: 3
Views: 599

Re: Jerome and the Lion Latin

Since I have Laura Gibb's Aesop's Fables , I looked. There are quite a few tales starring a lion, but none that I can see with the Jerome theme. To wit: De leaena et vulpe ; De leone amatorio ; De leone et mure ; De asino leonis pelle induto ; De leone sene ; De leone et urso ; De leone, asino, et g...
by RandyGibbons
Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: what does "secl. ci." in a criticall apparatus mean?
Replies: 20
Views: 1702

Re: what does "secl. ci." in a criticall apparatus mean?

I'm with you, mwh, I prefer ἀπηλλάχθαι as epexegetic, dropping ἐστι ( fortasse recte !). If ἐστι is retained (I imagine the editors were reluctant to go against the mss. when they have a defensible reading), isn't the clause simply asyndetic (Smyth 2167 a-b) and as such "striking" (Smyth) but not un...
by RandyGibbons
Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: what does "secl. ci." in a criticall apparatus mean?
Replies: 20
Views: 1702

Re: what does "secl. ci." in a criticall apparatus mean?

Thanks, Tugodum, for supplying the Greek text. At a glance I recognize it, though I never read the Republic in Greek. From reading it in English as an undergraduate, I have an indelible memory of the opening scene, and I was quite amused at the time by the old man Cephalus, quoting Sophocles, that i...
by RandyGibbons
Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:50 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: what does "secl. ci." in a criticall apparatus mean?
Replies: 20
Views: 1702

Re: what does "secl. ci." in a criticall apparatus mean?

Hi Tugodum. I'm kind of doubting jcabraham meant anything fundamentally different from mwh, though to be honest I don't really understand what his "bracketed as dubious, and conjectured" would mean. In any case, mwh is clearly correct: in this case the abbreviation is for secludendum coniecit , and ...
by RandyGibbons
Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:52 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: JACT Reading Greek 2nd Ed. Schedule
Replies: 5
Views: 2380

Re: JACT Reading Greek 2nd Ed. Schedule

Ditto all the above. I used the 2nd ed., and I'd say about a year is a reasonable expectation. To state the obvious: Don't advance from one section to the next (the organization of the course does take a bit of getting used to) until you've reviewed the current section and you are confident you've m...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:02 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: μήτε
Replies: 6
Views: 871

Re: μήτε

For the record, this was someone translating the Vestibulum into Greek, not Comenius himself. Maybe Bedwere knows who? There are pretty decent Greek translations of Comenius's Janua and Orbis Sensualium . These two works were intended to and are composed and organized for the purpose of teaching Lat...
by RandyGibbons
Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:15 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Rules of Textual Criticism as Adduced by Some Bib. Scholars
Replies: 17
Views: 2377

Re: Rules of Textual Criticism as Adduced by Some Bib. Scholars

No disagreement about Houseman's rigor as a philologist. Undoubtedly unfairly, he just somehow became the eponym in my (and evidently in others') mental categories for the type in question. Thanks again for the references, I'm especially looking forward to the Stoppard.
by RandyGibbons
Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:49 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Rules of Textual Criticism as Adduced by Some Bib. Scholars
Replies: 17
Views: 2377

Re: Rules of Textual Criticism as Adduced by Some Bib. Scholars

Hylander - Your sketch of the situation is as I understand it and as usual, superbly articulated! [EDIT: I'm sorry you deleted it!] Let's distinguish two questions, viz., the validity of the stemmatic method itself, and the validity of the application of cladistics to the establishment of a stemma. ...
by RandyGibbons
Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Rules of Textual Criticism as Adduced by Some Bib. Scholars
Replies: 17
Views: 2377

Re: Rules of Textual Criticism as Adduced by Some Bib. Scholars

Joel, for informed, skeptical, but not dismissive discussions, you might want to check out these two articles, if you can find them: Michael Reeve's article Editing classical texts with a computer: Hyginus's Astronomica , in the collection I mentioned above Paolo Trovato's 2014 essay (I was able to ...
by RandyGibbons
Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Rules of Textual Criticism as Adduced by Some Bib. Scholars
Replies: 17
Views: 2377

Re: Rules of Textual Criticism as Adduced by Some Bib. Scholars

Joel asked: Shouldn't a decent set of rules be more content-neutral? Why would there be special rules for NT criticism that wouldn't apply to the Shepard of Hermas? Or Demosthenes? mwh wrote: the basic principles are the same whether you have few manuscripts or many I know the subject of the articl...
by RandyGibbons
Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Relative of characteristic versus Indirect Discourse
Replies: 11
Views: 1445

Re: Relative of characteristic versus Indirect Discourse

Does indirect discourse reading imply that Caesar has some reason to doubt that the preparations are objectively necessary. Let me ditto and reinforce what Hylander said: No! Takeaway for you: While indirect discourse can be used to make it clear that the speaker/writer is merely reporting what som...
by RandyGibbons
Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:36 pm
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: Questions on the "Greek Anthology"(espec. Loeb and "others?")
Replies: 5
Views: 1142

Re: Questions on the "Greek Anthology"(espec. Loeb and "others?")

Bill, Michael - Thanks, this was very useful for me too. I know Cathexis specified English, but do either of you happen to know any versions with unbowdlerized translation and/or commentary in Italian, French, or German that might be recommended?
by RandyGibbons
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:42 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ὁσάκις ἂν
Replies: 30
Views: 2359

Re: ὁσάκις ἂν

Hylander, your capsule history of classical philology is as I understand it too. Another example: In browsing my grammars as part of participating in this thread, I was reading the entry for the potential optative in Kühner-Gerth. Kühner-Gerth is a good example, in some ways the culmination, of the ...
by RandyGibbons
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ὁσάκις ἂν
Replies: 30
Views: 2359

Re: ὁσάκις ἂν

Mine wasn't a slip, it was an un-Germanic confession of ignorance! (Even though I'm half German according to my dna.)
by RandyGibbons
Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:50 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ὁσάκις ἂν
Replies: 30
Views: 2359

Re: ὁσάκις ἂν

(Note: I thought I already posted this, so apologies if I end up duplicating myself.) Aetos, Bedwere - I'm not swayed by Comenius' Latin and Herr Damm's German, since with these things the different languages can be highly idiomatic, but Hylander - I am persuaded by what you and Smyth have to say, i...
by RandyGibbons
Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:50 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ὁσάκις ἂν
Replies: 30
Views: 2359

Re: ὁσάκις ἂν

καὶ τῷ καλλύντρῳ ἐκκοροῦμεν, ὁσάκις ἂν χρεία εἴη. καὶ τῷ καλλύντρῳ ἐκκοροῦμεν, ὁσάκις ἂν χρεία ᾖ. It's not obvious to me why one is more "appropriate" than the other. It seems to me these just differ in emphasis. And we brush these clothes with a brush, as many times as the need might arise (opt.) /...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:35 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: translation question
Replies: 6
Views: 1119

Re: translation question

it did not look like indirect discourse That begs the question, what does indirect discourse "look like" to you? From what text, textbook, or grammar did you learn the concept of indirect discourse? Regardless of what you call it, the key thing is that you understand the (exceedingly common) accusa...
by RandyGibbons
Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:05 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: translation question
Replies: 6
Views: 1119

Re: translation question

spqr, As you can see, one's definition of indirect discourse can vary depending on whether you emphasize "discourse" (anphph takes that literally to mean humans speaking) or "indirect", as Michael does. The key thing is, as Michael says and as I think you get (?), is that in the relative clause you ...
by RandyGibbons
Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: LLPSI Audio Book on YouTube (Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata, Familia Romana, Colloquia Personarum)
Replies: 3
Views: 989

Re: LLPSI Audio Book on YouTube (Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata, Familia Romana, Colloquia Personarum)

Excellently done. I like the pronunciation and pace of your reading, and I especially like the clarity in the (nicely & slowly scrolled) display of the pictures and text.

Bravo!

Randy Gibbons
by RandyGibbons
Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:33 pm
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: Can you compose in Ionic Greek?
Replies: 7
Views: 1644

Re: Can you compose in Ionic Greek?

Besides Herodotus, another good source of Ionian vocabulary from the fifth century are the various treatises of the Hippocratic Corpus. The Budé editions (at least the ones I've worked with) have excellent Indices Verborum, and there is also a comprehensive Index Hippocraticus to the entire corpus f...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:05 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Webpage Redesign and Login Problems
Replies: 18
Views: 3821

Re: Webpage Redesign and Login Problems

I see it now in Quick Links. Ok, I see the mayonnaise on the third shelf, but why's it stuck there in the back :lol: .
by RandyGibbons
Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:18 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Webpage Redesign and Login Problems
Replies: 18
Views: 3821

Re: Webpage Redesign and Login Problems

It's probably staring me in the face (like the mayonnaise in the refrigerator I"m always telling my wife is not there), but I'm not seeing the 'view recent posts' option?

Randy
by RandyGibbons
Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:12 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Thucydides - good translation
Replies: 34
Views: 9365

Re: Thucydides - good translation

Having just received my copy of the first volume of Alberti (from amazon.it), I went back to this thread for some advice on commentaries and translations, and I have to say, wow. It's got everything: so much useful information and advice (for now I'm going for the index card approach to cutting the ...
by RandyGibbons
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: The Gallic Wars
Replies: 5
Views: 1152

Re: The Gallic Wars

more accurate Latin syntax
I agree with Barry - then read the Latin Julius actually wrote!

Here is a student edition I particularly liked.
by RandyGibbons
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:38 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ørberg textbooks for an italian learner
Replies: 2
Views: 739

Re: Ørberg textbooks for an italian learner

Buon giorno, Marco. Posso leggere italiano, ma non parlare. That's about the extent of my Italian, so I can only imagine your "situation", a "situation" I find quite enviable, by the way! Reading your note carefully, I find you have two interrelated problems. First, right out of the starting gate yo...
by RandyGibbons
Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:53 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Looking for advice on which dialects to concern myself with
Replies: 23
Views: 3382

Re: Looking for advice on which dialects to concern myself w

I ditto everything Hylander said (and the previous responses regarding the importance of Attic and Homer for your long-term purposes). I might have recommended Book 1 of the Iliad as your starting point for Homer, but that's simply a matter of your interests and of finding a textbook that looks good...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:05 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Dickinson Summer Latin Workshop
Replies: 1
Views: 667

Re: Dickinson Summer Latin Workshop

Along with a friend, I attended this Dickinson workshop this past July, as I mentioned in another thread. Coincidentally, I was just speaking with Bret Mulligan last evening. He is a classics professor at Haverford College and will be co-teaching the Martial epigrams (see Barry's link) with Chris Fr...
by RandyGibbons
Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ovid, Metam. XIII, ln. 16 ff.
Replies: 16
Views: 3063

Re: Ovid, Metam. XIII, ln. 16 ff.

You're missing the sheer delight of this if you don't read metrically. This I never doubted! Didn't mean to be prosaic, I was just doing an experiment to see what the word order of the same words might be when rendered as prose (fully understanding that the diction, if I were really writing a prose...
by RandyGibbons
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:55 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ovid, Metam. XIII, ln. 16 ff.
Replies: 16
Views: 3063

Re: Ovid, Metam. XIII, ln. 16 ff.

Although in this case, would you all agree that the word order in the verse could be pretty much the same if it were written in prose? Or possibly something like this?: fateor praemia magna peti. sed aemulus demit honorem; Aiaci non est quicquid speravit Ulixes, licet sit hoc ingens, superbum tenuis...
by RandyGibbons
Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:54 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: On the Holy Sickness, thymus, aer, and phrenes
Replies: 6
Views: 1273

Re: On the Holy Sickness, thymus, aer, and phrenes

Thanks for that very à propos Herodotus citation. But question: What is your reason for saying Herodotus himself is skeptical about the sacred character of the disease? Is it because he says "which certain ones call sacred" (καὶ γὰρ τινὰ ἐκ γενεῆς νοῦσον μεγάλην λέγεται ἔχειν ὁ Καμβύσης, τὴν ἱρὴν ὀν...