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by paulusnb
Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:22 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Some thoughts on teaching with Lingua Latina
Replies: 2
Views: 2474

Re: Some thoughts on teaching with Lingua Latina

Maybe a buddy system that accidentally on purpose pairs strongest and weakest students might help. Lately, I do this with the exercises from the Workbook. When it works, it works really well. However, I have found there to be a ceiling to how long students, especially Middle Schoolers, can producti...
by paulusnb
Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:25 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Some thoughts on teaching with Lingua Latina
Replies: 2
Views: 2474

Some thoughts on teaching with Lingua Latina

I have been teaching Lingua Latina this year and I have met with some success. Not only are the students stronger readers, but they also claim that they like the text better than Ecce Romani . Their pronunciation has improved as well. I think it is the sheer amount of latin we read out loud in a wee...
by paulusnb
Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:44 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Woman's Work
Replies: 2
Views: 1247

Re: Woman's Work

Sulpicia is the only women whose poetry survives.
by paulusnb
Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:41 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Where to go From Here?
Replies: 3
Views: 1621

Re: Where to go From Here?

Any of your choices will work. What matters is the student. That being said, I always recommend Lingua Latina to someone in your shoes. I meet more people who successfully self teach with that than any other book.
by paulusnb
Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:54 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: composition.
Replies: 6
Views: 2093

Re: composition.

I think the text and explanations in Bradley's Arnold are excellent, but the problem is that the exercises do not help you practice what you've learned. They instantly start flinging the most strange and difficult twists imaginable at you; no one ever "does" something, they "would be willing to do"...
by paulusnb
Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:13 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: a question for Einhard
Replies: 7
Views: 2015

Re: a question for Einhard

Bagpipes? Looks like a scrotum.
by paulusnb
Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: composition.
Replies: 6
Views: 2093

Re: composition.

Bradley's Arnold is a difficult standard http://www.amazon.com/Bradleys-Arnold-Latin-Prose-Composition/dp/0865165955/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1249504766&sr=8-1 North and Hilllard's Latin Prose Comp. is my rec. http://www.amazon.com/Latin-Prose-Composition-Focus-Classical/dp/0941051919/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UT...
by paulusnb
Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:21 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: a question for Einhard
Replies: 7
Views: 2015

Re: a question for Einhard

I have my theories...............
by paulusnb
Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:22 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Acquiring a functioning vocabulary?
Replies: 6
Views: 2271

Re: Acquiring a functioning vocabulary?

You are asking the million dollar question. What has worked for me is reading, reading, reading. Specifically, read texts that are at your level. So, do not do Cicero if you are looking up every word. There are easier texts. Lingua Latina is great for this, and a fun read to boot. I would also sugge...
by paulusnb
Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:12 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin Poetry
Replies: 4
Views: 1436

Re: Latin Poetry

I cannot recommend any books that do what you ask, but I do understand your quandary. A lot of Roman poetry is inaccessible. Many of the jokes of Martial and Catullus fall flat for me, for example. The poetry book I always recommend is Beginning Latin Poetry Reader http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-La...
by paulusnb
Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:18 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lingua Latina: Part I, Familia Romana
Replies: 7
Views: 6827

Re: Lingua Latina: Part I, Familia Romana

Since Lingua Latina Pars II is a lot of adapted Livy, I would say that your expectations are not far off mark.
by paulusnb
Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:43 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin and Law School
Replies: 9
Views: 10652

Re: Latin and Law School

I've always wondered about such statistics. The question is whether the study of classics (as these statements suggest) makes people better at tests, schools, etc., or whether the kind of people who choose classics as a major are naturally apt to these tests and studies. (Most likely a combination ...
by paulusnb
Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:59 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Study Group
Replies: 76
Views: 33714

Re: Study Group

Ovid Book I lines 125-140 Having been inspired by Ovid's picture of of a Golden Age, I spent last Tuesday wandering around my lusciously green backyard. Well, apparently I do not know Poison Ivy from cat's claw vines and now I have poison ivy creeping across my face and venturing into the Stygian Sh...
by paulusnb
Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:47 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Study Group
Replies: 76
Views: 33714

Re: Study Group

Concerning Silver Men........... Ovid mentions in line 121 the first act of force on earth. Cows, pressed by the yoke, groan. "pressique iugo gemuere iuvenci." Arthur Golding reads: "Then first of all were furrows drawne, and corne was cast in ground. The simple oxe with sorie sighes, to heavie yoke...
by paulusnb
Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:54 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin and Law School
Replies: 9
Views: 10652

Re: Latin and Law School

Indirectly. Scalia has said that the best writers he has worked with have been people with Latin backgrounds. Also, people from classical studies are more successful in Law School. "Furthermore, according to Harvard Magazine, Classics majors (and math majors) have the highest success rates of any ma...
by paulusnb
Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:31 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin Praxis Exam
Replies: 3
Views: 3223

Re: Latin Praxis Exam

What I found interesting is that one of the two test sections involves listening to and accurately transcribing recited Latin. This seems strange, but I like how it somewhat approximates a living language test, and I think a good Latin teacher shouldn't have any problem with it. It is odd. I have n...
by paulusnb
Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:01 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: new Tar Heel reader website
Replies: 14
Views: 7146

Re: new Tar Heel reader website

Laura Gibbs recently made an observation about the strange way declensions are taught in Latin textbooks, and in classrooms. It is far more intuitive, and in accord with the way declensions are taught in modern declined languages, to teach them by case. Do you mean teaching all nominatives, all gen...
by paulusnb
Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:38 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin Praxis Exam
Replies: 3
Views: 3223

Re: Latin Praxis Exam

I did not know there was such a thing. Last I checked, there was no exam. On second thought, I might have been looking at my state's requirements rather than the actual existence of an exam. Interesting. Found these. http://www.nocheating.org/Media/Tests/PRAXIS/pdf/0600.pdf Don't know why it is call...
by paulusnb
Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:48 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ablative of Agent
Replies: 4
Views: 1593

Re: Ablative of Agent

Offhand, I cannot think of videor being used with Ablative. I also cannot think of a passive "think" that uses ablative of agent.
by paulusnb
Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:59 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ablative of Agent
Replies: 4
Views: 1593

Re: Ablative of Agent

How about the dative. Allen and Greenough 375 B b. The dative of the person who sees or thinks is regularly used after videor, seem: - * vidétur mihi it seems (or seems good) to me. * dís aliter vísum [est] (Aen. ii. 428), it seemed otherwise to the gods. * videor mihi perspicere ipsíus animum (Fam....
by paulusnb
Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:56 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Salvete (intro thread)
Replies: 7
Views: 2179

Re: Salvete (intro thread)

Welcome to the list. I am not personally interested in a study group on philosophy, but someone may be.
by paulusnb
Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:53 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lingua Latina: Part I, Familia Romana
Replies: 7
Views: 6827

Re: Lingua Latina: Part I, Familia Romana

Lingua Latina Pars 1 is a very good book. However, many here on this forum suggest using Lingua Latina as well as a more traditional textbook.
by paulusnb
Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:52 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Study Group
Replies: 76
Views: 33714

Re: Study Group

Well, Rhodopeius. It looks like it is just you and me. Here are some more random musings about the opening of Ovid's first chapter. On Pre-existing/eternal Matter Lucretius argues the eternity of matter in De Rerum Natura. Nothing ever truly passes away; death always leads to life. Lo, the rains per...
by paulusnb
Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:47 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: OLD
Replies: 6
Views: 2082

Re: OLD

All, Having run my legs off this past weekend in order to gather enough funds to purchase an OLD, I was wondering what your opinion of the dictionary is prior to me making a committment. Any info would be useful & much appreciated. Thanks, dlb Buy it. Buy it. Assuming you are not loaded (you had to...
by paulusnb
Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:41 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Study Group
Replies: 76
Views: 33714

Re: Study Group

I sing of poets. To hell with the list! My mind leads me to begin to speak of Ovid--until I get sleepy (damned flesh). Before I begin, let me offer some thoughts. Ovid is a problem for me; I do not really know what to do with him. My brother had to read Ovid as part of some Great Books seminar he wa...
by paulusnb
Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:04 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek pronunciation oddities
Replies: 10
Views: 11913

Re: Greek pronunciation oddities

modus.irrealis wrote: But from the perspective of Classical Greek, Feyedrus is not any better than Feedrus.
As a result of this forum, I am becoming more and more aware that Classical Greek pronunciation is a complex thing. I never knew, for example, that φ was pronounced more like "p." Interesting.
by paulusnb
Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:30 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek pronunciation oddities
Replies: 10
Views: 11913

Re: Greek pronunciation oddities

Funny you all bring this up. I recently had the same discussion with my brother about the pronunciation of Bacchae and Phaedrus. He had to lead a seminar on the Bacchae for some great books class and kept pronouncing the ae diphthong "ee" because that was the way the guys in his department were pron...
by paulusnb
Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:45 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Why the ITALIAN Athenaze?
Replies: 30
Views: 16814

Re: Why the ITALIAN Athenaze?

Here. It is from Italy though. They are not known for their speed. :(

http://www.unilibro.com/find_buy/produc ... 35&idaff=0


Someone here once bought it from Abebooks.
by paulusnb
Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:02 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poems anyone?
Replies: 53
Views: 23034

Re: Poems anyone?

Poem from Carmina Burana . CXCI. Gretchen's Lament. Still have not had time for Ovid. Again, I am going out of town. But here is a sad poem to ease the soul. Gretchen's Lament Tempus instat floridum Cantus crescit avium Tellus dat solacium. Eia, qualia Sunt amoris gaudia. Huc usque, me miseram! Rem ...
by paulusnb
Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:31 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Electronic Liddell and Scott (Logos Version)
Replies: 6
Views: 3731

Re: Electronic Liddell and Scott (Logos Version)

Perhaps the original poster is already completely aware of this program, but Kalos is free as well.
by paulusnb
Thu May 21, 2009 6:09 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Question about English Grammar
Replies: 97
Views: 35528

Re: Question about English Grammar

Ignore this. I did not mean to post to this topic.
by paulusnb
Thu May 21, 2009 10:51 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Question about English Grammar
Replies: 97
Views: 35528

Re: Question about English Grammar

I would suggest a basic introduction to transformational grammar and syntax tree and bar structure. I think it would clarify a lot of these things. If you can't see that difference and understand how cases work in English (since we only have two real cases), I would really start to worry about any ...
by paulusnb
Wed May 20, 2009 11:43 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Question about English Grammar
Replies: 97
Views: 35528

Re: Question about English Grammar

jaihare wrote:No, I already told you. The fact that it is an embedded question is the REASON.
Um. Ok. SInce you told me...............

With that said, your reasons sound sound.


But, what about the following sentence: I have always known him to be a stand up guy. Him is the Objective case. Colloquial?
by paulusnb
Wed May 20, 2009 3:15 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Question about English Grammar
Replies: 97
Views: 35528

Re: Question about English Grammar

Can we say it is who because it is the subject of the verb is? We do not say, for example, we saw the guy whom did it.
by paulusnb
Wed May 20, 2009 2:50 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Infinitive object and posessive dative
Replies: 17
Views: 3306

Re: Infinitive object and posessive dative

Well, Hells Bells Adrianus, you are right, and I shall stick my pedem in my os. Here it is. http://books.google.com/books?id=Q7cAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA213&lpg=PA213&dq=Allen+and+Greenough+Genitive+of+Characteristic&source=bl&ots=tNI6YiFi3V&sig=FmWxEuiqhGkhOzU2WPUGpjDUGwA&hl=en&ei=sW4TSvvGGoeJtgfz3tWaBA&sa=X...
by paulusnb
Wed May 20, 2009 2:34 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Infinitive object and posessive dative
Replies: 17
Views: 3306

Re: Infinitive object and posessive dative

I have never heard that about the dative of reference. I will have to look it up. I cannot think of an instance where an infinitive takes a genitive. I will look that up as well.

Thanks.
by paulusnb
Wed May 20, 2009 1:06 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Infinitive object and posessive dative
Replies: 17
Views: 3306

Re: Infinitive object and posessive dative

adrianus wrote:Just genitive
My money is on dative of reference. I do agree that the infinitive is the subject. My take: It is for the queen and sailor to love.
by paulusnb
Tue May 19, 2009 11:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: new Tar Heel reader website
Replies: 14
Views: 7146

Re: new Tar Heel reader website

The books I mentioned are not on the Tarheel site. I bought them from Balchazzy-Carducci. The quizzes contain questions relating to comprehension and vocabulary. They are all Multiple Choice. In Octavus Octapus, he is cold and he desires socks. The question might be the following: Octavus desiderat ...
by paulusnb
Tue May 19, 2009 3:51 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Why the ITALIAN Athenaze?
Replies: 30
Views: 16814

Re: Why the ITALIAN Athenaze?

I can tell you right now, that not all the kids find the plot engaging and love it. Some of them loathe it. You just don't give a flying ****, because you're too busy teaching what you like. Wow. Thanks for telling me how my students feel. I will take you into consideration when I choose my books n...
by paulusnb
Tue May 19, 2009 2:14 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Why the ITALIAN Athenaze?
Replies: 30
Views: 16814

Re: Why the ITALIAN Athenaze?

Oh how you have disabused me of my pretensions to teaching. I imagine that in High School I could at least look forward to more impudence if not more intelligence... Ah, don't let a complaining teacher change your mind. I love teaching; it is really the only thing I have ever thought about doing. I...