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by paulusnb
Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:30 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: eng-latin translation please
Replies: 12
Views: 3834

Re: eng-latin translation please

thesaurus wrote:"Nemo potest dicere utrum iste plus biberit an vomuerit an effuderit!"
I had to translate this passage for my Latin exam in grad school. Ah...... Professor Ladeucer, where art thou?
by paulusnb
Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:26 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Which variety to learn?
Replies: 17
Views: 4406

Re: Which variety to learn?

jacobus wrote:I would have ordered a copy of the Italian Athenaze immediately, but unfortunately I fear that I would not understand the Italian in it -
My understanding is that there is little to no Italian in it, just like the English Lingua Latina. Thesaurus can say; he has a copy.
by paulusnb
Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:50 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: For Sale Oxford Latin Dictionary
Replies: 9
Views: 2629

Re: For Sale Oxford Latin Dictionary

Well, I am not sending payment to someone I do not know, so it is all yours.
by paulusnb
Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:07 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: eng-latin translation please
Replies: 12
Views: 3834

Re: eng-latin translation please

Use tuam. Tui is incorrect.
by paulusnb
Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:04 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: For Sale Oxford Latin Dictionary
Replies: 9
Views: 2629

Re: For Sale Oxford Latin Dictionary

How are you working payment. Send it to me and I will send you money. :D
by paulusnb
Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:19 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poems anyone?
Replies: 53
Views: 23392

Re: Poems anyone?

Kids are napping. Huc ades, o formose puer, tibi lilia plenis 45 ecce ferunt Nymphae calathis; tibi candida Nais, pallentis violas et summa papavera carpens, narcissum et florem iungit bene olentis anethi; tum casia atque aliis intexens suavibus herbis mollia luteola pingit vaccinia caltha. 50 ipse ...
by paulusnb
Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:52 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poems anyone?
Replies: 53
Views: 23392

Re: Poems anyone?

I've always found material set in nature to be particularly challenging to read and translate, probably because my life is so far removed from nature and it's so rich in symbolism that I'm just not familiar with. Anyway, I've set about reading and translating all the Eclogues, hoping that will grou...
by paulusnb
Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:31 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin translation. please check.
Replies: 8
Views: 5436

Re: Latin translation. please check.

Do not use tui. tua is the possessive adjective. It already means your.
by paulusnb
Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:29 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Which variety to learn?
Replies: 17
Views: 4406

Re: Which variety to learn?

Here is the Greek Lingua Latina discussion. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9125
by paulusnb
Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:17 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin book recommendations sought
Replies: 5
Views: 1756

Re: Latin book recommendations sought

No problem. You might think about Ecce Romani Book III. It contains selections from Eutropius and Cicero. It is a good crib on the end of the Republic, and it can be had for 20 or so dollars. It contains notes/vocab on the facing page and a dictionary in the back. It also contains some grammar exerc...
by paulusnb
Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:11 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin book recommendations sought
Replies: 5
Views: 1756

Re: Latin book recommendations sought

Eutropius, various selections of Caear, and various Catullus poems are fairly easy. As far as Vergil goes, Pharr's Aeneid will make it a lot easier. Generally, the dramas are difficult, but I think the Maenaechmi and the Phormio are sometimes read in the schools. This beginning Latin Poetry reader i...
by paulusnb
Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:26 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How to improve my Latin?
Replies: 9
Views: 5582

Re: How to improve my Latin?

Would you recommend getting either of these to go with it? Lingua Latina: A College Companion based on Hans Orberg's Latine Disco, with Vocabulary and Grammar (Perfect Paperback) Lingua Latina: Pars I--Exercitia Latina I (Latin Edition) (Pt. 1, No. 1) (Paperback) I do not know about the college com...
by paulusnb
Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:41 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poems anyone?
Replies: 53
Views: 23392

Re: Poems anyone?

I was thinking a little about the discussion above and thought that maybe there's a huge distinction to be found between H's actual take on war and his extoling of bravery. Ahh, but what is his actual take on war? Therein lies the rub. Especially as someone in the mid-late first century BC, I don't...
by paulusnb
Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:51 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How to improve my Latin?
Replies: 9
Views: 5582

Re: How to improve my Latin?

Lingua Latina is a good idea. Start with Book I. It is a fun read. If it is too easy at first, you will eventually come to a section that is challenging enough.
by paulusnb
Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:16 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poems anyone?
Replies: 53
Views: 23392

Re: Poems anyone?

Thesaurus, Thanks for the Erasmus links. I'm endeavoring to read the entire Metamorphoses, so I could post passages for discussion that I find striking or something like that. Please do. My familiarity with Ovid's Latin consists of the beginning of the first book and Pyramus and Thisbe. I did sign u...
by paulusnb
Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:23 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Optissimus -a -um
Replies: 6
Views: 1936

Re: Optissimus -a -um

Well, if Cicero used, then by definition it is correct, since he is the standard. Breathe easy, amice. :D
by paulusnb
Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:21 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: A good Latin dictionary
Replies: 7
Views: 2227

Re: A good Latin dictionary

I find the Words program best for composition, especially if you are trying to compose about "modern" things, e.g. computers, hamburgers, shovels. However, as far as desk dictionaries go, outside of the pain of doing Bradley's Arnold in Grad school, I have never done too much with composition, so I ...
by paulusnb
Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:18 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: How to improve rusty schoolboy Latin
Replies: 1
Views: 913

Re: How to improve rusty schoolboy Latin

There is a great downloadable dictionary here. http://users.erols.com/whitaker/words.htm

I do not know of any websites, but I would suggest Lingua Latina, which is a reading immersion program. Presumably, you have some grounding in the morphology and syntax, so you would benefit from it.
by paulusnb
Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:15 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Optissimus -a -um
Replies: 6
Views: 1936

Re: Optissimus -a -um

Where have you seen it used?
by paulusnb
Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:08 am
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: Catullus 51 Translation
Replies: 8
Views: 18478

Re: Catullus 51 Translation

Euripides, Nice translation. I like this poem better with the last bit kept on, like you have it here. Otium, Catulle, tibi molestum est: otio exsultas nimiumque gestis: otium et reges prius et beatas perdidit urbes. I think this definitely puts a different spin on Catullus' poem and on Catullus. As...
by paulusnb
Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:54 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poems anyone?
Replies: 53
Views: 23392

Re: Poems anyone?

I think poplitibus and timidove tergo are the object of parcit ; "and it does not spare the knees or cowardly back of a peaceful youth." Ahhhh. I remembered it takes the dative, but I was taking parcit with iuventae. I Should have known iuventae was genitive from inbellis. I wish I remembered off t...
by paulusnb
Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:19 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Locative
Replies: 5
Views: 3026

Re: Locative

Rhodopeius wrote:Just remember that when you're taunting Roman oppressors, the proper phrasing is "Romani, ite domum!"
I show this movie to my students. :D I love it. Also, "What have the Romans ever done for us?"
by paulusnb
Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:12 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poems anyone?
Replies: 53
Views: 23392

Re: Poems anyone?

Alright, here is a long one. Horace 3.2 II Angustam amice pauperiem pati robustus acri militia puer condiscat et Parthos ferocis uexet eques metuendus hasta uitamque sub diuo et trepidis agat 5 in rebus. Illum ex moenibus hosticis matrona bellantis tyranni prospiciens et adulta uirgo suspiret, eheu,...
by paulusnb
Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:49 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poems anyone?
Replies: 53
Views: 23392

Re: Poems anyone?

Interesting selection. I must admit I am not familiar with this one. Martial wrote so much, and so much of it is impenetrable (no pun intended). Not to be the perpetual perv, but something is afoot here...right? Or do I have problems? So, I know that boys would cut their beard and dedicate it to the...
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:34 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: A good Latin dictionary
Replies: 7
Views: 2227

Re: A good Latin dictionary

Here is the standard (and correct) answer. "The best dictionaries (optima sunt): Oxford Latin Dictionary, and Lewis & Short. Pretty good dictionary (melius): Cassell's. Also Whitaker's Words program from this site http://users.erols.com/whitaker/words.htm" This is from Adrianus. The ones above are g...
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:30 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is this construction normal?
Replies: 4
Views: 1415

Re: Is this construction normal?

There is nothing wrong with this sentence. The first word of a latin sentence is in a position of prominence. You can switch it around all you want, depending on the context.
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:00 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin Translation
Replies: 5
Views: 1237

Re: Latin Translation

Another way is felix natalis tibi.
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:10 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Orberg, Familia Romana
Replies: 5
Views: 2560

Re: Orberg, Familia Romana

ok. So my first problem is to be able to recognize a verb from a noun. Second, is to know what the 1st person indicative present form takes with verbs. I will have to have a look at wheellock again i think... Don't forget to know the nominative form! Or you can download that morphological/dictionar...
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:06 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Direct Object?
Replies: 19
Views: 5790

Re: Direct Object?

You can download A New Latin Grammar from Textkit. It is just what the doctor ordered. It goes into detail with the accusative (10ish distinct uses), and many, many other things.
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:01 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Orberg, Familia Romana
Replies: 5
Views: 2560

Re: Orberg, Familia Romana

Any dictionary will have these words. You have to look up the right form, though. Verbum is the nominiatve (it is neuter). The trans. will be under this. The same goes for delecto. Verbs are always listed by their 1st person indicative present.
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:07 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poems anyone?
Replies: 53
Views: 23392

Re: Poems anyone?

I forgot 7th graders were around. :oops: Woh! hold on, where did this come from? This is an argument that has been raging for 500 years. The interpretation was first offered by some Italian. I used to have all of the papers on this. but this was all I could come up with on short notice./ Read the co...
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:45 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Recordings of Ecclesiastical (Church/Italianate) Latin?
Replies: 4
Views: 1719

Re: Recordings of Ecclesiastical (Church/Italianate) Latin?

Salve. When I said the Hail Mary at my school's masses, they asked I pronounce it the church way. Nothing wrong with Church Latin. It is still Latin. The prejudice for the classical stems from the Renaissance break from church Latin when people like Petrarch were trying to write like Cicero. There d...
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:40 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Direct Object?
Replies: 19
Views: 5790

Re: Direct Object?

Is the preposition assumed in the context or does the accusative case contain the meaning of the preposition "to"? Just because we translate Latin with prepositions does not mean there is an assumed preposition. I would say it contains the English preposition. Inflection takes the place of preposit...
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:36 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poems anyone?
Replies: 53
Views: 23392

Re: Poems anyone?

Suetonius writes, "In person he was short and fat, as he is described with his own pen in his satires and by Augustus in the following letter: "Onysius has brought me your little volume, and I accept it, small as it is, in good part, as an apology. But you seem to me to be afraid that your books may...
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:18 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poems anyone?
Replies: 53
Views: 23392

Re: Poems anyone?

Hi. I was disappointed that the thread sank so fast under the weight of all those kids asking for help with Lingua Latina but anyway I'm happy to participate. Hey, as they say in church, wherever two or more gather..... the syntax had sort of a labyrinth effect on me. The six lines seem to express ...
by paulusnb
Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:11 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Direct Object?
Replies: 19
Views: 5790

Re: Direct Object?

I do not recall seeing intrat used with a preposition. As far as calling it the object of the preposition without one actually being present in the latin....... I cannot wrap my mind around that. There are Latin uses of the ablative that we use prepositions to translate. For example, dedit signum tu...
by paulusnb
Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: canis et ovis
Replies: 5
Views: 1911

Re: canis et ovis

Yes, ovis and canis are i-stems. My interpretation of this poster's problems was that he did not understand 3rd declension generally speaking (he was confused about the nom. and gen. being the same). There is no real way to "explain" i-stem without going into mind-numbing rules, one of them being th...
by paulusnb
Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:05 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Kalos software bug
Replies: 4
Views: 1532

Re: Kalos software bug

So these are in the boxes that pop up after searching an entry? I have not had this problem.

The thing that annoys me about Kalos is that I have to click the search button with my mouse. I always slap enter and wait a few seconds for the word to pop up, only to remember it won't.
by paulusnb
Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:41 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: The 3rd declension
Replies: 2
Views: 899

Re: The 3rd declension

Repetition is the mother of memory. That said, accusative sing. often ends with m (except when it does not) and acc. pl often ends -s (except when it does not). Ablatives usually have long vowel endings. Repetition is the mother of memory. Write the charts dozens of times and then you never have to ...
by paulusnb
Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:38 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Direct Object?
Replies: 19
Views: 5790

Re: Direct Object?

They are Direct Objects. You could just as easily translate spectat as watch. You will have the same problem with Dative and Indirect Object. Often we translate the dative with "to" or "for" but we call it the Indirect Object in Latin class.