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by annis
Sun Apr 27, 2003 8:51 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Who's stronger than whom.
Replies: 3
Views: 5076

Re:head hurts

<br />I'm running out of advil. Can you render that into Christian script ;) <br /> <br /><br />Christian script?<br /><br /> <br />Also, will we be able to see this as real Greek at some point?<br /> <br /><br />Goodness. I actually do so this as real Greek, now that I've installed SPIonic on my l...
by annis
Sun Apr 27, 2003 6:33 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Who's stronger than whom.
Replies: 3
Views: 5076

Who's stronger than whom.

Regarding a quote from Sebastian of a Japanese poem...<br /><br />That reminded me of this, from one of my Greek readers, "Stories and Legends, A First Greek Reader" by F.H. Colson, 1939.<br /><br />This is from the fables section. Not sure if it is Aesop.<br /><br />[size=150]ποιητής τις λέγει ὅτι ...
by annis
Sun Apr 27, 2003 2:25 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Writing Greek Poetry: TO ELLHNIKON AIKU
Replies: 9
Views: 10079

Re:Writing Greek Poetry: TO ELLHNIKON AIKU

<br />Ooh, I like that one! Cf. Arabic poetry/music with all the 'a3younik' references... ;)<br /> <br /><br />yaa Habiibii yaaa....<br />yaa qalbii yaaa...<br /><br />I so love Arabic music. It's the main reason I study Arabic from time to time. I must put on MuHammad 3abdul-Wahhad now.<br /><br /...
by annis
Sun Apr 27, 2003 2:18 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Writing Greek Poetry: TO ELLHNIKON AIKU
Replies: 9
Views: 10079

Re:A Haiku Challenge

[quote author=Elucubrator link=board=2;threadid=70;start=0#302 date=1051421577]<br />There is only one Haiku I know.<br /><br />There was a rice merchant from Kyoto,<br />Who had two beautiful daughters<br />Warriors slay men with the sword<br />These girls slew men with their eyes.<br /><br /><br /...
by annis
Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:15 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Cast your Pebbles!
Replies: 14
Views: 6021

Re:Cast your Pebbles!

I'm sure a lot of those members joined once thinking it would be cool, and have never come back, or only check the site once a month. This forum has been very slow to build up to the point where you'd need to read it more than once a week.<br /><br />Patience.<br /><br />--<br />wm
by annis
Sat Apr 26, 2003 2:44 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: 500 free pages of Greek commentary on Homer
Replies: 2
Views: 4857

Re:500 free pages of Greek commentary on Homer

<br />William, where did you get it?<br /> <br /><br />I've been trying to find known-free Unicode editions of Homer. There are nice copies at the Bibliotheca Augustana and I was digging into the references he gave for the text. Two pointed into this guy's site, though not quite correctly. I went d...
by annis
Fri Apr 25, 2003 9:38 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: 500 free pages of Greek commentary on Homer
Replies: 2
Views: 4857

500 free pages of Greek commentary on Homer

Scholia D. This is tremendously neat, so I'll forgive the annoying lunate sigma. <br /><br />http://www.uni-koeln.de/phil-fak/ifa/va ... holiaD.pdf<br /><br />--<br />wm
by annis
Fri Apr 25, 2003 9:30 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek text
Replies: 26
Views: 31578

Re:Greek text

[quote author=Lex link=board=2;threadid=50;start=0#277 date=1051283181]<br />I've been playing some more with fonts and I now realize that the SPIonic font (sort of) understands Betacode (it doesn't understand the * for majuscules), so TextKit can already (sort of) convert BetaCode to Greek:<br />[/...
by annis
Fri Apr 25, 2003 2:50 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek text
Replies: 26
Views: 31578

Re:Greek text

<br />I was just trying to make a small contribution to the board, not annoy you by having the same ideas that every other Greek newbie apparently has.<br /> <br /><br />No, no, not annoyed. I'm just trying to keep us from going through the debate of creating another transcription system when sever...
by annis
Fri Apr 25, 2003 1:59 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Writing Greek Poetry: TO ELLHNIKON AIKU
Replies: 9
Views: 10079

Re:Writing Greek Poetry: TO ELLHNIKON AIKU

<br />I congratulate you on the beautiful and entertaining article on the Greek-Haiku hybrid monster.<br /> <br /><br />Monster?! I think even advanced Hellenists could use the Haiku form for a moment's inspiration, when they don't have the time or the resources for an elegiac couplet or a choral o...
by annis
Fri Apr 25, 2003 1:23 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek text
Replies: 26
Views: 31578

Re:Greek text

<br />. But who cares what we use until Textkit becomes compatible with that code?<br /> <br /><br />Because the way these BB systems work, it might work retroactively. Or could be made to.<br /><br /> <br />What about writing however each finds easiest, until Jeff makes the (betacode?) a possibili...
by annis
Fri Apr 25, 2003 1:07 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Easiest first text?
Replies: 19
Views: 14568

Re:Easiest first text?

I agree with Sebastian that it is always helpful to attend to the basics. Review forms! Then do it again. I have cards of verbs I read on the bus to work, always in a jacket pocket. I review them in bars waiting for friends. I recite Mimnermus off a card, to memorize it, while walking to go shopping...
by annis
Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:22 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek text
Replies: 26
Views: 31578

Re:Greek text

ai)ai ai)ai<br /><br />qrhnw= ai)ei'...<br /><br /><br />For a stressful moment, do a google search on "representing greek in ascii." Pay special attention to mailing lists.<br /><br />Unfortunately, everyone who comes to greek, then tries to use a computer outside of greece, comes up with some sche...
by annis
Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:23 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Writing Greek Poetry: TO ELLHNIKON AIKU
Replies: 9
Views: 10079

Writing Greek Poetry: TO ELLHNIKON AIKU

The history of how I got this idea is on the web site (URL in a moment), but recently I've been writing Haiku in classical Greek.<br /><br />That's right. Haiku. In Greek.<br /><br />Of course, I documented this process, but I think this is a great way to learn more Greek, especially vocabulary. Onc...
by annis
Thu Apr 24, 2003 8:45 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek text
Replies: 26
Views: 31578

Re:Greek text

[quote author=Lex link=board=2;threadid=50;start=0#254 date=1051211846]<br />Perhaps a moderator should choose a font that 1) looks good 2) handles all the little squiggly marks (accents, breathing marks, etc.) and 3) is available on many computer platforms, and declare that the conventional font fo...
by annis
Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:10 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Conversation & Correspondence in Greek/Latin
Replies: 8
Views: 9488

Re:Conversation & Correspondence in Greek/Latin

aiai aiai !!!<br /><br />Unicode is great. It really doesn't work for a lot of people, though.<br /><br />This is of course why I spent many hours programming the crazy image based system I use on aoidoi.org. It's the only thing sure to work with every browser (except, of course, the ones that only ...
by annis
Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:04 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Achilles
Replies: 7
Views: 7891

Re:Achilles

[quote author=Raya link=board=6;threadid=41;start=0#248 date=1051202370]<br />(WAAAH! :'( I need a new victim!!!)<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Agamemnon seems very hatable.
by annis
Wed Apr 23, 2003 10:17 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: multiple negatives
Replies: 17
Views: 18717

Re:multiple negatives

[quote author=Elucubrator link=board=2;threadid=49;start=0#234 date=1051136038]<br />I actually have some photocopies of some old Greek Verse Composition books that I'll be sending Jeff in the near future. Look out for those. ;)<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Ooh! Who's the author? I found a Sidgwick and ...
by annis
Wed Apr 23, 2003 8:49 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: multiple negatives
Replies: 17
Views: 18717

Re:Veins and Frains. ( was: Re:multiple negatives )

[quote author=Elucubrator link=board=2;threadid=49;start=0#228 date=1051127587]<br />What edition of Curtius's grammar have you got? Mine was 1941 I think. I was going to send the photocopies to Jeff, but then I realised it wasn't yet in the public domain.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />1941?! Mine is 187...
by annis
Wed Apr 23, 2003 8:43 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Conversation & Correspondence in Greek/Latin
Replies: 8
Views: 9488

Re:Conversation & Correspondence in Greek/Latin

[quote author=Elucubrator link=board=2;threadid=64;start=0#229 date=1051129152]<br />Hi William,<br /><br />thanks for the link. However, if that's beta code that they're using over on the Graece list. It comes across on my computer like this:<br />[/quote]<br /><br />No, no, that is not betacode. D...
by annis
Wed Apr 23, 2003 7:42 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Conversation & Correspondence in Greek/Latin
Replies: 8
Views: 9488

Re:Conversation & Correspondence in Greek/Latin

[quote author=Elucubrator link=board=2;threadid=64;start=0#223 date=1051122496]<br />This would be a new Forum where posts will be written entirely in Greek or Latin. Post your own compositions: your stories, your poems, <br />[/quote]<br /><br />I will be posting about one approach to composing Gre...
by annis
Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:07 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: multiple negatives
Replies: 17
Views: 18717

Re:multiple negatives

[quote author=Elucubrator link=board=2;threadid=49;start=0#174 date=1050730739]<br />William! You have Curtius's Grammar! ::) I have a photocopied version of the Spanish translation of Curtius that I obtained long ago in the Argentine. Yes, an ancient thing. But still it is really nice. <br />[/quot...
by annis
Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:08 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: multiple negatives
Replies: 17
Views: 18717

Re:multiple negatives

So, I've had a chance to consult some of my texts at home.<br /><br />Examples:<br /><br />(from "Foundations for Greek Prose Composition," Lewis and Styler):<br /><br />"Compound negatives" - meaning ou)deis, etc. - "following the simple negative strengthen it; they do not destroy it:<br /><br />  ...
by annis
Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:58 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: multiple negatives
Replies: 17
Views: 18717

Re:multiple negatives

> I'm studying Greek with the Open University, Reading Greek is the <br />> text book. Section 3-38 is the very short explanation.<br /><br />What does it say? From the grammars I can get at from work it seems that normally ou) precedes the word it goes with. If you don't have ou) + NEG, then you ta...
by annis
Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:44 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: multiple negatives
Replies: 17
Views: 18717

Re:multiple negatives

[quote author=auctor link=board=2;threadid=49;start=0#161 date=1050498688]<br />1. ou) blepw ou)dena<br />2. ou)dena ou) blepw<br /><br />By my reckoning...<br />1. I see no one, no one at all<br />2. I don't see no one (therefore... I see someone)<br /><br />First try with Beta code, hope it's OK<b...
by annis
Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:56 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: multiple negatives
Replies: 17
Views: 18717

Re:multiple negatives

Are you talking about MH\ OU) and OU) MH/ (the last is just an emphatic negative) or some other thing? Can you post some examples? Because MH\ OU) is still negative.<br /><br />The Smyth at Perseus, section 2760, has some stuff on multiple negatives.<br /><br />--<br />wm
by annis
Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:39 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek text
Replies: 26
Views: 31578

Re:Greek text

I don't know if YaBB (the software that runs this forum) can handle unicode. I wonder if it handles character entities...<br /><br />τεθναίην, ὅτε μοι μηκέτι ταῦτα μ&...
by annis
Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:07 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Achilles
Replies: 7
Views: 7891

Re:Achilles

> Possibly the problem is one of definition; My impression of the <br />> reason Achilles is great is that he, since he is such a good <br />> fighter, is intrincicly glorious. To the greeks, being a badass was <br />> an acceptable end in and of itself. So who cares if you're a <br />> twit...as lo...
by annis
Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:29 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Achilles
Replies: 7
Views: 7891

Re:Achilles

If he were a nice guy would we have the story? It is his rage, after all, that is supposed to keep things going.<br /><br />--<br />wm<br />
by annis
Fri Apr 04, 2003 1:32 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plan of action
Replies: 5
Views: 7423

Re:Plan of action

> And I bet you find Homer's Catalogue of Ships just *thrilling*! :P<br /><br />> Hehe - okay okay; I shouldn't judge. It's all remarkably dull in <br />> English translation but I get the feeling that the original is better...<br /><br />I want to yell when I see some translations of Homer. Some of...
by annis
Fri Apr 04, 2003 1:28 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: of course
Replies: 1
Views: 3868

Re:of course

> I'm learning Greek with the OU, and JACT Reading Greek. Can <br />> someone explain why<br />> pOs gar ou;<br />> is followed by the interrogative semi-colon. It's not really a <br />> question, is it? More a sort of "certe" in Latin - adverb<br /><br />It is not at all like 'certe', actually. It'...
by annis
Wed Apr 02, 2003 2:06 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plan of action
Replies: 5
Views: 7423

Re:Plan of action

> As I've mentioned in my introduction thread, I'm teaching myself <br />> classical Greek with the intention of sitting IB exams in May <br />> 2004. <br /><br />What are these?<br /><br />> I ask myself - what should my initial focus be? should I focus on<br />> mastering grammar or on reading tex...
by annis
Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:18 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Easy readers
Replies: 12
Views: 11748

Re:Easy readers

[quote author=jeff link=board=3;threadid=35;start=0#122 date=1049152335]<br />Will do, I have been a little too Greeky lately... <br />[/quote]<br /><br />One can never be too Greeky!<br /><br />--<br />wm
by annis
Wed Feb 26, 2003 8:46 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: English to Attic Greek Dictionary
Replies: 12
Views: 8592

Re:English to Attic Greek Dictionary

The Woodhouse English->Greek dictionary is available online.<br /><br />http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/efts/Woodhouse/<br /><br />You can't usefully print the whole thing out,though.<br />
by annis
Fri Jan 03, 2003 5:10 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: verb form: the aorist
Replies: 3
Views: 6590

Re:verb form: the aorist

There are many traps! <br /><br />Usually Greek grammars will say there are two kinds of aorist, helpfully called "first aorist" and "second aorist." Sometimes the first aorist gets called the sigmatic aorist, since it adds a sigma to the stem.<br /><br />I give a quick rundown of the various ways o...
by annis
Fri Jan 03, 2003 5:00 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ancient greek pronunciation
Replies: 20
Views: 15081

Re:ancient greek pronunciation

Well, it's true there were no tape recorders, but we do have a lot of comparative material to work with. For example, how the Romans spelled Greek words.<br /><br />Also, the Greeks themselves wrote manuals to help barbarians learn how to correctly speak the language, too, which is how we know that ...