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by Interaxus
Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:57 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: HANC...?
Replies: 5
Views: 1905

HANC...?

Does anyone else find the following passage grammatically puzzling? “Venus, amoris et pulchritudinis dea spuma maris nata est. In curru sedens effingitur, a cycnis aut columbis tracto. Ex arboribus myrtus ei sacra fuit. HANC FILIUS CUPIDO COMITATUR, puer alatus, arcu et sagittis instructus. Praeter ...
by Interaxus
Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:12 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Thoughts on Google Books
Replies: 29
Views: 10640

Re: Thoughts on Google Books

Adrianus and Metrodorus, you both seem to me to be driven learner-teachers. Adrianus, kudos for converting everything you write into Latin. That’s a fantastic standard you set for the rest of us. (Metrodorus didn’t even translate his Cicero quote to English – had to google my way to that – admittedl...
by Interaxus
Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:43 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin; or the Empire of the Sign.
Replies: 34
Views: 10769

Re: Latin; or the Empire of the Sign.

I just noticed this debate and speaking as a ‘crumbly’ who has dabbled in languages most of his life I have to concur with the Waquet verdict that Latin is just plain hard to learn. By comparison, I found learning a little Arabic was child’s play. Nobody so far seems to have mentioned a certain ‘str...
by Interaxus
Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:22 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Acquiring a functioning vocabulary?
Replies: 6
Views: 2278

Re: Acquiring a functioning vocabulary?

Scribo:

Try the link provided here by Laura Gibbs. Check out the 300 most common words in the text's 'Appendixes'.

http://learninglatinlinks.blogspot.com/ ... words.html

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:23 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: plus
Replies: 8
Views: 2709

Re: plus

by Interaxus
Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:34 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: plus
Replies: 8
Views: 2709

Re: plus

Adrianus: As usual, I admire and enjoy your bilingual examples immensely. But I have a quick question ... The Adler Key gives: Plura illorum quam horum (de unis quam de alteris) lavat. Is ‘plura’ better than ‘plus’ (which you use in your last two examples) in this connection? In other words, is ‘plu...
by Interaxus
Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:57 pm
Forum: Latin For Beginners by D'Ooge
Topic: Question about key
Replies: 4
Views: 5431

Re: Question about key

Ravi: I notice that the Key is inconsistent, sometimes marking the u in pugna/pugnare/oppugnavit, etc, as long, sometimes as short. IT'S SHORT. But note that the SYLLABLE containing the short u vowel (pugn-) would be considered long in reading (especially important in reading poetry). Check D'Ooge's...
by Interaxus
Fri May 01, 2009 9:00 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: lost texts
Replies: 15
Views: 5764

Re: lost texts

Cathexis:

Perhaps this is what you're looking for:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictys_Cretensis

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:05 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Translating Lucus Eques' reports
Replies: 17
Views: 5679

Re: Translating Lucus Eques' reports

Thesaurus: Now I may be out of my depth but my grammar book says: "The gerundive modifying a noun has the same meaning as the gerund with a direct object, but the gerundive construction is preferable when the gerund, if used, would have a direct object." Which would seem to suggest that Luci sentenc...
by Interaxus
Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:41 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Which Method is better?
Replies: 7
Views: 2423

Re: Which Method is better?

Cathexis: Hope you didn't throw away your copy of D'Ooge's Elements of Latin. I found the Key about 3 years ago and tried in vain to get Textkit to include it in their collection. No response from the gods that be. So for your sake and the sake of anyone else interested I've now uploaded the pdf fil...
by Interaxus
Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:16 pm
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: Wheelock's Answers : Chap 32 as promised
Replies: 6
Views: 26061

Re: Wheelock's Answers : Chap 32 as promised

You can download the missing Ch 32 answer key in pdf format from here:

http://www.badongo.com/file/14198750

NOTE: You have to wait 40 seconds or so before you can start downloading. Eventually the "Please wait..." button AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN changes to "Download Your File Here".

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:01 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)
Replies: 26
Views: 11402

Re: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)

Swth/r:

My brain slept too. Me paenitet! :oops:

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:53 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)
Replies: 26
Views: 11402

Re: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)

Swth/r: Probably because you missed what Ptolemyauletes wrote some days back: The rule I use to teach fear clauses is 'if it's got a negative, there ain't one, if it ain't got a negative, there is one'. Or that fear clauses are the opposite of what they seem. Or you need to check out what your Gramm...
by Interaxus
Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:41 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Translating Lucus Eques' reports
Replies: 17
Views: 5679

Re: Translating Lucus Eques' reports

Financial services?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_services I don't think so ...! I remain convinced we have to to check out Lucus Eques’ CNN source to see what he is actually translating to Latin. Relying on the Latin alone is not enough. Here’s my take on the sentence for what it's worth:...
by Interaxus
Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:31 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Translating Lucus Eques' reports
Replies: 17
Views: 5679

Re: Translating Lucus Eques' reports

The CNN source refers to a 'Treasury bailout' and a 'bank bailout'. Take your choice. :)

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:01 am
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: 38 Latin Stories Page 74 Chapter 39 Help
Replies: 4
Views: 8257

Re: 38 Latin Stories Page 74 Chapter 39 Help

I just came across two gerundives in Leo Latinus’ translation into Latin of a German review of “The Reader” (Kate Winslet’s Oscar film) that closely resemble examples (3) and (4) in our doctored Cicero text. “Cinema autem libro minus aptum est ad (a) personas introspiciendas (b) earumque cogitatione...
by Interaxus
Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:03 pm
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: 38 Latin Stories Page 74 Chapter 39 Help
Replies: 4
Views: 8257

Re: 38 Latin Stories Page 74 Chapter 39 Help

This is the first half of the text: M. Antonius, quasi imperator copias suas collocans, <Marcus Antonius, like a general deploying his forces>, omnia verba ponebat <marshalled all his words/arguments> in maxime opportunis suae orationis partibus. <in the most opportune places of his speech>. Gestibu...
by Interaxus
Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:17 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)
Replies: 26
Views: 11402

Re: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)

One last question. What's the difference between the following two statements? Vereor ut veniat (I fear that he will not come) Dubito num venturus sit (I doubt whther he will come) Is it just the fear factor? Or are they interchangeable? After all, there isn't much difference in English between 'I'm...
by Interaxus
Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:16 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: The case of Agamemnon
Replies: 5
Views: 1982

Re: The case of Agamemnon

Here’s a late thankyou for the prompt resolution of my problem. Yes, Alatius, my Latin-Swedish dictionary has this example under ’feri’: ’is regem interemisse fertur’ – ’han lär ha dödat’ (for non-Swedish speakers: ’he is said/supposed/believed to have killed’ (the king)). Much like your example, Be...
by Interaxus
Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:53 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)
Replies: 26
Views: 11402

Re: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)

ptolemyauletes: I found your latest Cicero anaysis really helpful. As for that minor(?) issue of helping students grasp how ne & co. work, yes, I love 'two nons make a nut', but I suspect the best solution would be to provide ’vivid’ illustrations of their use in contrastive ’silly pairs’), ideally ...
by Interaxus
Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:08 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)
Replies: 26
Views: 11402

Re: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)

ptolemyauletes: 'if it's got a negative, there ain't one, if it ain't got a negative, there is one'. Yes, that’s neat ... though your mantra doesn’t seem to cover the ’double negative’ contingency. timeo ne cras pluat - I fear it will rain tomorrow timeo ne non ad tempus adveniat - I am afraid he wi...
by Interaxus
Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:01 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Please advise if you see a mistake.
Replies: 122
Views: 32090

Re: Please advise if you see a mistake.

Salve Adriane! Fascinating! Thanks for sharing your insights (and thanks, Thesaurus, for naming the game :) ). Just for the hell of it, I looked up ‘barefoot’ in the small dictionaries (Traupman, Cassell’s, Chambers Murray). They all give ‘nudis pedibus’ (adj & adv) or “pedibus nudis”. On the other ...
by Interaxus
Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:48 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Please advise if you see a mistake.
Replies: 122
Views: 32090

Re: Please advise if you see a mistake.

Just wondering ... why 'pedes nudi' and not 'pedibus nudis'?

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:21 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)
Replies: 26
Views: 11402

Re: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)

ptolemyauletes: It certainly helped ME. Thanks! Why didn’t I (or someone else more qualified) spot it before? It was staring me in the face in my Loeb translation: ”If I give orders, Catiline, for your instant arrest and execution, what I shall have to fear, I suppose, is not that all loyal citizens...
by Interaxus
Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:29 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Why is -ne not used with esse?
Replies: 7
Views: 2959

Re: Why is -ne not used with esse?

Keller himself (or is it Russell?) says merely (on page 27): "-ne is an enclitic added to the first word of a sentence to indicate that it is a question. Its use in questions is optional , and it has no English translation. The word to which it is added is often a verb, since verbs often occur first...
by Interaxus
Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:03 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: The case of Agamemnon
Replies: 5
Views: 1982

The case of Agamemnon

In Legends of Gods and Heroes (Morton) I read the following sentences: Clytaemnestra, uxor Agamemnonis , iram acerbam in maritum suum fovebat. C, A's wife, cherished a bitter hatred against her husband Ferebatur Agamemnon novis nuptiis studere. It was reported that A desired a new marriage (Clytaemn...
by Interaxus
Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:11 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Medieval metre mystery
Replies: 4
Views: 1394

Re: Medieval metre mystery

Kasper and Alatius: Thanks for your combined expertise. Elegiac couplets! Of course! Been reading too much (just joking!) Vergil lately and have begun to impose hexameters on the universe – procrustean syndrome...? i scan it as follows: Heu miser in mediis sitiens stat Tantalus undis, - u u | - u u ...
by Interaxus
Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:22 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Medieval metre mystery
Replies: 4
Views: 1394

Medieval metre mystery

I'm not a little baffled by this quatrain by medieval Italian jurist and rhymster Alciato (1492-1550; Book of Emblems #85). The first line seems to be an archetypical hexameter (and ideal to practise on as such) but what about the remaining three? I can't quite get the long/shorts to gel. Anyone els...
by Interaxus
Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:40 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Orbergized Ovid!
Replies: 0
Views: 1379

Orbergized Ovid!

I just discovered this brilliant Latin lesson in Latin: http://stephanusarx.blog.lastampa.it/et_in_arcadia_ego/2008/11/ovidius-more-rb.html Metamorphoses Book 4, lines 285-342. Now I know who Hermaphroditus got his name from. This fabula is not one of the most commonly anthologized but it has a real...
by Interaxus
Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:33 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: DE VIRIS ILLVSTRIBVS VRBIS ROMAE
Replies: 4
Views: 3137

Re: DE VIRIS ILLVSTRIBVS VRBIS ROMAE

This Easy Sight Reader by D'Ooge includes 4 selections with detailed notes (including synonyms) from the 'Viri Romae' which you may find useful. http://books.google.com/books?id=wnxKAAAAIAAJ&q=D'Ooge+easy+sight+readings&dq=D'Ooge+easy+sight+readings&ei=E0N6SbqAKJS6ygTNrcWqBg&pgis=1 Though be warned,...
by Interaxus
Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:30 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: New Textkit censorship?
Replies: 8
Views: 2236

Re: New Textkit censorship?

This is what I submitted: ................................................................................. Have just downloaded Smith’s English-Latin dictionary from 1871 (145MB) and wish to share this will anyone who hasn't yet done so: http://www.archive.org/details/copiouscriticale00smit What a ...
by Interaxus
Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:21 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: New Textkit censorship?
Replies: 8
Views: 2236

Re: New Textkit censorship?

Essorant:

What explains what?

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:34 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: New Textkit censorship?
Replies: 8
Views: 2236

Re: New Textkit censorship?

PS. My post was to Outside Links of Interest.

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:32 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: New Textkit censorship?
Replies: 8
Views: 2236

New Textkit censorship?

Submitting a new topic just now (a link to William Smith's English-Latin dictionary) I got a message saying (roughly) 'Your post may or may not be acceptable depending on some moderator's whim. You will be informed in due time'.

What's happening? :?

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:14 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: English-Latin dictionary
Replies: 0
Views: 2492

English-Latin dictionary

Have just downloaded Smith’s English-Latin dictionary from 1871 (145MB) and want to share this with anyone who hasn't done so yet: http://www.archive.org/details/copiouscriticale00smit What a treasure! Every page is a lesson in itself. An example: I chanced upon the entry for ‘assert’ and now I know...
by Interaxus
Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:22 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Some Thoughts to the Gaza Crisis
Replies: 103
Views: 21366

Re: Some Thoughts to the Gaza Crisis

Pre-inaugural Gaza scrapbook ... First an article: An former insider’s view (‘an eye for an eyelash’): http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-palestine Then some images: White phosphorus (don’t miss the second video clip): http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/20/gaza-white-phosp...
by Interaxus
Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:54 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Please advise if you see a mistake.
Replies: 122
Views: 32090

Re: Please advise if you see a mistake.

Adrianus: As tyro and humble beneficiary, I'd like to say how grateful I am for this thread - also for the English-Latin parallel texts scattered throughout theTextkit cloud written by yourself, thesaurus et al. Can you please say a lttle more about this project? Where do your English texts come fro...
by Interaxus
Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:39 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Suggestions for reading the Vulgate
Replies: 14
Views: 7733

Re: Suggestions for reading the Vulgate

Well, I'm glad Diogenes isn't only quirky with me. Thanks, anantah, for the ctrl-C tip. Why didn't I think of that myself? :oops: Overall, Diogenes feels a bit primitive as far as its user interface goes. For example, it only offers Next Entry and Prevous Entry. Since the dictionary contains trillio...
by Interaxus
Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:27 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)
Replies: 26
Views: 11402

Re: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)

cb: Thanks for that. By using a proxy, I was able to find the book and could read it - but I still couldn't download it. Then I took the bold step of downloading and installing a 7-day trial version of Anonymizer's 'Anonymous Surfing'. From here: http://www.anonymizer.com/consumer/products/trial/ind...
by Interaxus
Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:13 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)
Replies: 26
Views: 11402

Re: Help with Cicero (Oratio in Catilina prima)

Thesaurus: You get my vote for Best Latin Teacher on the Planet 2009! Hampie: I suppose you know that you can download an interlinear Catiline as well as an English (actually a phrase-by-phrase Latin-English) 'translation' from Textkit? cb: Unfortunately Google here in Sweden doesn't even list (let ...