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by Interaxus
Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:11 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: custōdiendōsque sēmet ipsōs
Replies: 6
Views: 3211

Re: custōdiendōsque sēmet ipsōs

Imber Ranae: Remember that after verbs of giving, receiving, sending, lending, hiring, and undertaking the gerundive in agreement with the direct object shows purpose, not necessity, obligation, etc. That's a really useful reminder. Can you point me in the direction of more info on this usage - with...
by Interaxus
Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:47 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Having lived, he died - just so.
Replies: 33
Views: 12323

Re: Having lived, he died - just so.

Peaz,

No offence meant. Fun can be unkind sometimes, I know.

Meanwhile, while gathering gastropods twitter on your shoreline (may Keats in his heaven forgive me that one), how about:

Spirávit, expirávit. fás est. (He breathed, he expired. It's OK). á is pronounced long.

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:42 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Complete Ancient Greek: Teach Yourself (Betts & Henry)
Replies: 2
Views: 3114

Re: Complete Ancient Greek: Teach Yourself (Betts & Henry)

I now dare to believe in the ultimate triumph of common sense over personal waywardness among Greek coursebook authors. I can now throw away my scarcely-read copy of Betts' and Henry's TY Greek - where they insisted on using the lunate sigma (c/C), a real off-putter - and use the new edition, comple...
by Interaxus
Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:11 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Having lived, he died - just so.
Replies: 33
Views: 12323

Re: Having lived, he died - just so.

Peaz, Since you're flourishing the Big Names in your poem, perhaps the following would be suitably bathetic: vénit, vídit, perívit (he came, he saw, he passed away) By the way, since you're parodying/plundering T.S.Eliot so shamelessy, shouldn't you at least spell his name right? :D For further paro...
by Interaxus
Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"
Replies: 24
Views: 18403

Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Don't despair! Good old Patruus has included it in his collection of fantastic Latin answer keys: http://cid-7c51d883593d5954.office.live.com/self.aspx/LATCOMP/BennettCompositionKey.pdf#resId/7C51D883593D5954!142 I can't understand why Textkit hasn't yet set up a link to such keys somewhere on the s...
by Interaxus
Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:33 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: custōdiendōsque sēmet ipsōs
Replies: 6
Views: 3211

Re: custōdiendōsque sēmet ipsōs

In a translation of Lhomond's Viri Romae by Edward Roth (1898) that I came across some time ago, it says: "Swear," he cried, "swear that you will neither desert Rome yourselves nor allow any Roman citizen to do so! Whoever does not take this oath must be informed that it is against himself that this...
by Interaxus
Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:13 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Eius vs. Suis
Replies: 46
Views: 22496

Re: Eius vs. Suis

Imber Ranae:

Thanks for letting me off the hook!

I see that your skills extend beyond teaching Latin. Your gracious response is an object lesson in civility.

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:48 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Eius vs. Suis
Replies: 46
Views: 22496

Re: Eius vs. Suis

Imber Ranae: 1. My apologies. In fact I mainly wished to point out that the nominative ‘sui’ in John 1.11: In propria venit, et sui eum non receperunt. "He came unto his own, and his own received him not". was the m. pl. NOUN form, not the adjective form under discussion in connection with Familia R...
by Interaxus
Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:04 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Eius vs. Suis
Replies: 46
Views: 22496

Re: Eius vs. Suis

Whitakeräs Words is eminently useful as always: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ su.i N 2 1 GEN S M su.i N 2 1 LOC S M su.i N 2 1 NOM P M su.i N 2 1 VOC P M suus, sui N (2nd) M [XXXDX] lesser his men (pl.), his friends; su.i N 2 2 GEN S N su.i N 2 2 LOC S N suum...
by Interaxus
Sun May 30, 2010 8:25 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: libra???
Replies: 10
Views: 3863

Re: libra???

Adriane: You provide food for thought. The translation is by W. C. Firebaugh at Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/5219/5219-h/5219-h.htm I’m not advanced enough to have an opinion myself but thanks for giving me an excuse to examine the text more closely. I find focusing on content h...
by Interaxus
Sun May 30, 2010 3:26 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: libra???
Replies: 10
Views: 3863

Re: libra???

Well, it's certainly pretty rare! Who would recommend it, to beginners especially? Adriane: I asked myself that same question. :o Hampie, Seemingly Google doesn't do the Latin Library. That's where I found the following chapter from the Satiricon (I include the whole 'chapter' because interestingly...
by Interaxus
Sun May 30, 2010 1:15 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: libra???
Replies: 10
Views: 3863

libra???

I just read this on page 75 of "The Beginner's Caesar (An open door to Caesar)", 1903, by H.P. Cannon, downloaded from Internet Archive:

"libra Caesaris legimus, we are reading the books of Caesar."

Would the grammarian who can explain this please stand up and be counted...?

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Wed May 26, 2010 2:57 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Grex Latine Loquentium
Replies: 48
Views: 22542

Re: Grex Latine Loquentium

Avitus mentioned 'copies in the virtual world' of the 1966 Assimil Latin course. I guess he meant:

http://rapidlibrary.com/index.php?q=ass ... filetype=0

WARNING: Just ignore the "Sponsored Links" box. I think that's a scam.

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Tue May 25, 2010 11:39 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: In defence of shameless self-promotion
Replies: 13
Views: 5112

In defence of shameless self-promotion

‘Promulgatio sui improba’ can be a good thing sometimes. Without Adriani shameless self-promotion and accompanying link to the abacus lesson (http://www.youtube.com/adrianmallon) I would have missed one of the best Latin lessons I've ever had. Kudos, mi Adriane! If only I’d been taught maths like th...
by Interaxus
Sun May 23, 2010 11:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Grex Latine Loquentium
Replies: 48
Views: 22542

Re: Grex Latine Loquentium

I recently overcame my ingrained snobbishness and read ‘The First Man in Rome’ by ‘popular’ author Colleen McCullough. She paints a stark and detailed picture of Roman politics around the time of Marius and the the ‘young’ Sulla. Though it’s ‘fiction’, it’s obviously well-researched. Her account tal...
by Interaxus
Sun May 23, 2010 10:26 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Survey of Latin orthography preferences
Replies: 65
Views: 19778

Re: Survey of Latin orthography preferences

Adrianus: I wasn't joking :oops: so thanks. I suppose I deceived myself into thinking that because it was a Greek import it couldn't be that simple. But then, even Lewis & Short online seem a bit confused when it comes to the masculine form: pirithoum noun pl masc gen no user votes 41.1% [vote] piri...
by Interaxus
Sat May 22, 2010 10:37 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Survey of Latin orthography preferences
Replies: 65
Views: 19778

Re: Survey of Latin orthography preferences

Smythe: Here's one attempt: http://www.answers.com/topic/laoco-n and here's the picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laoco%C3%B6n Another name I've always found hard to pronounce is 'Pirithoo' (ablative of Pirithous I think) which is the last word in Horace's spring Ode 4.7: http://www.merriampark....
by Interaxus
Sat May 22, 2010 2:09 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Survey of Latin orthography preferences
Replies: 65
Views: 19778

Re: Survey of Latin orthography preferences

furrykef: Yes, ‘visual noise’ from macrons is ‘mostly because people aren't used to it’. People all over the world are conditioned to reading Latin-alphabet texts with only a sprinkling of ‘diacritics lite’ at most (French, German, Spanish, Swedish, for example). It would be rash to challenge such a...
by Interaxus
Thu May 20, 2010 1:51 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Survey of Latin orthography preferences
Replies: 65
Views: 19778

Re: Survey of Latin orthography preferences

The question is: what’s the best format for a Latin novel intended to be read with pleasure by present-day readers? Priority #1 must be to put the readers (and keep them) in the mood for reading. For novel-reading whoosh, macrons add too much ‘visual noise’. They would litter the desired highway wit...
by Interaxus
Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:47 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Linney's Latin Class
Replies: 4
Views: 2491

Re: Linney's Latin Class

Q-ut-D:

You mention in your first post:
The book came out in 1917
But that was the 1917 edition. Linney is using the 1902 edition, which is different. The download you need is Imber Ranae's Google version OR the THIRD download version listed in Internet Archive.

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:05 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Linney's Latin Class
Replies: 4
Views: 2491

Re: Linney's Latin Class

Or try:

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query ... pe%3Atexts

Click on the title, then on All files:HTTP, then right-click on the pdf file and SaveTarget As....

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:37 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Question re gerantur.
Replies: 17
Views: 7356

Re: Question re gerantur.

Damoetas wrote: Instead of saying "id/ea must be supplied or understood," it makes just as much sense to say "Latin relative clauses do not require an antecedent." The difference between ‘ea quae’ and ‘quae’ reminds me of the difference between ‘the man that/whom/who I met on the train’ and ‘the ma...
by Interaxus
Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:59 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: lingua latina
Replies: 57
Views: 34909

Re: lingua latina

I was just about to ask Thesaurus if there was any difference between 'recenter' and nuper' but thought I'd better google a bit first and suddenly, lo and behold, mi ritrovai per una selva oscura ... in the middle of a Catholic Online Forum ... ALL IN LATIN. Not exactly my neck of the woods, but cou...
by Interaxus
Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:11 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: lingua latina
Replies: 57
Views: 34909

Re: lingua latina

Novi: That amazing man'sTextkit pseudonym was/is Lucus Eques. L-Flower: I just created a Google Docs Lingua Latina folder, uploaded the translation files, and gave your email address 'access'. So if you create a Google Docs account of your own (it's free), you should be able somehow to see them, edi...
by Interaxus
Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:02 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: lingua latina
Replies: 57
Views: 34909

Re: lingua latina

Publishers! What wet blankets.

Anyway, stick with your Oerberg immersion plan. This man was an avid promoter of Lingua Latina duckings in his Textkit days - and listen to him now!

http://www.youtube.com/ScorpioMartianus

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:18 am
Forum: Greek Textbooks and Study Groups
Topic: Vocabulary Drill Program for White?
Replies: 9
Views: 18875

Re: Vocabulary Drill Program for White?

Rusty,

Thanks for a most beautiful and useful site. But on your Greek Accents Page...

καλή + κώμην = καλὴ κώμην

"καλὴ κώμην" strikes me as a bit weird grammatically (nom adj + acc noun?). :?

Please excuse quibble.

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:11 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Cicero
Replies: 11
Views: 7709

Re: Cicero

Meanwhile the rural ditties were not mute,
Tempered to th' oaten flute;
Rough Satyrs danced, and Fauns with cloven heel
From the glad sound would not be absent long;
And old Damoetas loved to hear our song.

Possibly old Damoetas himself said 'aye' (Milton's, not Vergil's). :)

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:16 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: lingua latina
Replies: 57
Views: 34909

Re: lingua latina

Little Flower: Hope you received chapters 1, 3, 4 and 10. Here’s the last one, Chapter 26: Good luck with your project! Icarus says to his dad: “Tu id quod semel excogitavisti perficere soles”. Does that apply to you too? If so, translating the whole of Familia Romana will well and truly ‘immerse’ y...
by Interaxus
Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:34 am
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: Chapter 28 38 Latin Stories
Replies: 2
Views: 5615

Re: Chapter 28 38 Latin Stories

EllenMac10: To get the big picture, you might start with this … http://www.vroma.org/~hwalker/VRomaCatullus/005.html ... then listen to this ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzs2Fq1ICZU … and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmNxgiFtbj4&NR=1 Then go back to study the language. :) Cheers, Int
by Interaxus
Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:19 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: lingua latina
Replies: 57
Views: 34909

Re: lingua latina

Hi Little Flower, Let this be my small tribute to the memory of Hans H. Oerberg, who died four days ago at the age of 90. For some reason I have English translations of Book 1, chapters 1-4,10 and 26 in a folder on my computer. The files date from 2004 but I have no idea where I found them. I'm pret...
by Interaxus
Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:52 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Gradatim
Replies: 10
Views: 3525

Re: Gradatim

Adrianus:

Don't get me wrong. When I said 'Thanks for the OLIM-ALIQUANDO review!', I really meant it.

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:47 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: some input please.
Replies: 29
Views: 10882

Re: some input please.

Adrianus: Thanks for that priceless mnemonic! Gigas phoberos: What makes Latin ESPECIALLY difficult? I’d swear it was: 1. THE INFLECTIONS. Latin words are like red-bottomed baboons in a green jungle to a colour-blind explorer. Getting the mind’s eye to take in AT ONE SWEEP all those red bottoms (inf...
by Interaxus
Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:44 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Gradatim
Replies: 10
Views: 3525

Re: Gradatim

Adrianus: Thanks for the OLIM-ALIQUANDO review! Yes, the final editor (Collar) also admits in his preface to omitting 34 of the original anecdotes for other reasons: "some of these seemed rather pointless, others a little questionable in tone or taste". For example, there’s ‘The Blackamoor’, where t...
by Interaxus
Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:30 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Gradatim
Replies: 10
Views: 3525

Re: Gradatim

Adrianus: Funnily enough I just happened to have a copy of ‘Gradatim’ lying on my breakfast table when I read your post. The other week I also downloaded 3 different versions of this little book out of pure curiosity since I'm fascinated by the protean transformations Latin textbooks tend to undergo...
by Interaxus
Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:48 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Athenaze (Italian) Study Group
Replies: 8
Views: 5453

Re: Athenaze (Italian) Study Group

Clemens:

There's a Teacher's Handbook for Book 1 (affordable) and a Teacher's Handbook for Book 2 (will cost you your shirt!). They go with the English editions but should work equally well with the Italian editions - I know the Book 1 handbook (from 1990) does.

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:02 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Thoughts on Google Books
Replies: 29
Views: 10629

Re: Thoughts on Google Books

Lex:

Points taken. Thanks!

Cheers,
Int
by Interaxus
Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:56 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Thoughts on Google Books
Replies: 29
Views: 10629

Re: Thoughts on Google Books

Lex: Yes, I see Microsoft finally responded to the barrage of criticism from customers (developers) who felt they’d ‘been deprived of their assets’. For example, Wikipedia notes: Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition does contain the Visual Basic 6.0 converter, so it is a way to evaluate feasibility of ...
by Interaxus
Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:59 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Thoughts on Google Books
Replies: 29
Views: 10629

Re: Thoughts on Google Books

Adrianus: I sympathize with your platform porting problems. Some years ago I wrote what I thought was a sophisticated program for inhouse language training at a large multinational company. But I made a serious mistake. I used Visual Basic. Fun while it lasted, but then Bill Gates pulled the plug on...
by Interaxus
Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:35 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: HANC...?
Replies: 5
Views: 1904

Re: HANC...?

Thanks!

I actually looked up comitor in the dictionary and only found comito. Now I've looked again... and it's there. :oops:

Cheers,
Int