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by cweb255
Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:26 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: The verb estin (he/she/it is) and related verbs
Replies: 7
Views: 3544

sorry, I didn't mean to imply that oriens should be considered to be rising, but that the verbal part is lost thus you should use "est" - however you are correct that the word changes then altogether, from "is rising" to something to do with the east. Mea culpa, I should have been more clear (again)...
by cweb255
Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:01 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: The verb estin (he/she/it is) and related verbs
Replies: 7
Views: 3544

Just off the top of my head, and although the examples are Latin example, I do believe they suffice for Greek as well, that some verbs become predominantly known only in their adjective form, such as oriens (anatole) and then should est (estin) be used.
by cweb255
Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:00 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin or Greek?
Replies: 26
Views: 8778

The "E" for the "H" is wrong, though I'll give you the omega and the omicron should be the same, but eta and epsilon were two different letters originally, and thus reflect an older tradition, like writing color instead of colour, the older tradition, color, is now the standard in America opposed to...
by cweb255
Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:53 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin or Greek?
Replies: 26
Views: 8778

It's also sarcasm, and not a serious argument against your reason. Have fun! But tell me, why was it "painful reading"?
by cweb255
Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:05 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin or Greek?
Replies: 26
Views: 8778

dear cweb, many thanks for your reply, divided (one must presume) so as to make sugar the pill of your acerbic wit. That or I missed the final paragraph of your last post... ;) per iocum, mi amice. i read your words, "carefully fulling utilizing [my] logic"[?!] as best as I could. Eheu, it seems as...
by cweb255
Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:33 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: NT MSS
Replies: 12
Views: 11005

Ah, well, you're always welcome there. Follow up to your answer - how can you claim to be a peshitta primacist when the old aramaic sinaiticus text has far more evidence of being primary to Aramaic? But alas, please don't answer here. We shall take this debate to another forum. :wink:
by cweb255
Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:56 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin or Greek?
Replies: 26
Views: 8778

as for Fitzgerald, whose name you so wish to drop, why he is the 'English reading [sic]'? Further, surely things are getting pretty bizarre when you recommend with the words "Ahem... you can read the Latin all you want, but like I said about the English reading of the Aeneid, it isn't very accurate...
by cweb255
Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:52 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin or Greek?
Replies: 26
Views: 8778

it is an oft voiced worry that nothing is translatable, and that recourse to the original should always be made. this is of course the best option. it is, however, by no means essential, and some of the great scholars of the renaissance familiarised themselves with a lot of Greek literature through...
by cweb255
Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:39 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Future perfect
Replies: 3
Views: 1039

Future Perfect is the action that occurs before another action that has not yet taken place. I've translated them before, though not off the top of my head is a place where.
by cweb255
Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:24 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin or Greek?
Replies: 26
Views: 8778

You missed the point, Whiteoctave. I thought the last line would have given it away, but I guess not... God should have condemned Fitzgerald if only he had not made such an excellent English work, no matter how far removed from the original. Ahem... you can read the Latin all you want, but like I sa...
by cweb255
Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:20 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: NT MSS
Replies: 12
Views: 11005

Ooh! Ooh! An Aramaic primacist. Quick question: Peshitta Primacist?
by cweb255
Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:43 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: On account of
Replies: 6
Views: 1532

Yes indeed, didn't realize you read the "other" board. I was going to bring it to my board, but I found the most opportune time to bring it here instead... :twisted:
by cweb255
Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:41 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Post Roman proper nouns
Replies: 6
Views: 1655

possible but i think this better says it... http://behindthename.com/php/view.php?name=geoffrey anyway, I think a nice merge of Latin and Greek here would suffice (hell, there's television, isn't there?) Theopax or Theopacius or something along that line, if, of course, it even is Godfrey that origi...
by cweb255
Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:37 pm
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: Ex vs Ab
Replies: 4
Views: 5533

Ex, although taking an ablative, always implies a physical motion out of something, that is ex urbe (urbi? damn those i-stems...no wait, urbe) but can on few occasions be figurative such as "out of this situation we learned" although personally I'd use ab there.
by cweb255
Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:35 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin or Greek?
Replies: 26
Views: 8778

Those are lost works, whiteoctave, lost and lost. Have you read Politeia in Latin? How about Homer? Have you read Aneid in English? God should have condemned Fitzgerald if only he had not made such an excellent English work, no matter how far removed from the original.
by cweb255
Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Post Roman proper nouns
Replies: 6
Views: 1655

Arcansas, Arcansatis, I guess, or Geoff would probably render Ieffreus (for Geoffrey or Jeffrey or something like that).
by cweb255
Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:36 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin or Greek?
Replies: 26
Views: 8778

To truly become the academic scholar in Classics, which I presume you are talking about, since we no longer have any Latin works of the Greek, you need to become proficient in both languages. Only when you can read the Republic in Latin and Politeia in Greek will you have mastered them.
by cweb255
Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:26 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: On account of
Replies: 6
Views: 1532

odio humani generis - its funny you should mention this. As a side thought, a lot of theories has been circuling around this phrase, as I understand it, and still stand by it, meaning "on account of their hatred of the human race." However, this being the minority reading from Tacitus, what do you a...
by cweb255
Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:45 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Comparisons of Greek and Latin
Replies: 12
Views: 3313

Um, fix the quote?
by cweb255
Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:17 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Comparisons of Greek and Latin
Replies: 12
Views: 3313

I found Latin to be far more regular than Greek, which I would consider to be the number one factor when determining facility. Also, since you seem interested in classical languages thus far, why not learn Hebrew and/or Egyptian instead of Arabic. Hebrew has almost everything Arabic has, though Arab...
by cweb255
Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:49 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How to say the phrase "Second Best"????
Replies: 4
Views: 1218

My support to Whiteoctave, as that was what I was going to say. ;)
by cweb255
Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:22 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: Iocus
Replies: 27
Views: 23783

rapire pullam?
by cweb255
Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:07 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: The Death of Grammar
Replies: 26
Views: 4947

I'm all for dropping English grammar. Maybe then we can all revert back to Roman time when if you couldn't probably diagram a sentence, you would get beat. :lol:
by cweb255
Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:47 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Vulgate Usage Question
Replies: 16
Views: 3601

Yah, I don't know Arabic, but the way I pronounced it is always understood by the Arabic-speakers here. Besides, there's no one way to write Arabic in English... Well yes, Arabia is either nominative singular or ablative singular, and the word means ARABIA. Arabica lingua is the Arabic language and ...
by cweb255
Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:44 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Vulgate Usage Question
Replies: 16
Views: 3601

ana atekelam arabiya? (Etiam arabicam dicesne?)
by cweb255
Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:42 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Moderator's Position Open
Replies: 0
Views: 710

Moderator's Position Open

As most of you know, I have my own forum listed in my signature. I've been wanting to expand it a bit, so now I'm out looking for moderators. The only requirements are that you are proficient in what you are moderating (I assume most here are proficient at Latin?) and can sign on at least two or thr...
by cweb255
Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:20 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: alphabet development and classical latin
Replies: 8
Views: 2249

Ancient Latin: A B C D E FH G H I K L M N O P QV R S T V X Z Classical Latin: A B C D E F G H I (K) L M N O P QV R S T V X (Y) (Z) Late Latin: A B C D E F G H I J (K) L M N O Qv R S T V X (Y) (Z) @ is 'at' with the 't' circling around the 'a' & stood for 'et' or 'and' but was a late development, e.g...
by cweb255
Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:33 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin-Greek Lexicon
Replies: 7
Views: 1471

I don't have a decent digital camera! However, I'll look around to see if there's a process I can do to preserve it while still use it. A lexicon from the 18th century would be a very valuable thing to me, and I'm dying to find out what the preface says, as it is written in Latin as well. I'll get b...
by cweb255
Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:00 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin-Greek Lexicon
Replies: 7
Views: 1471

yoboseyo mingshey, I seriously would, but the work is too old to do a full scan of it. I fear that it would fall apart if I did such a thing. I was thinking of translating the preface, all in Latin, but I decided not to do such a thing for the same reason. I did get the first page translated and a s...
by cweb255
Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:05 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin-Greek Lexicon
Replies: 7
Views: 1471

you aren't the first person to say that...
by cweb255
Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:04 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Dulce Et Decorum Est
Replies: 5
Views: 1860

yes, and that's even better than exploro in my opinion.
by cweb255
Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:42 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Assatura ?
Replies: 7
Views: 1709

It actually comes from the word assus thought to be related to areo (arsus?) to be dry.
by cweb255
Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:53 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Use of "HAC"
Replies: 6
Views: 1797

On the word verbum - you're right, verba is not a word, I was thinking of res, feminine, which is commonly used for [this]... but Horace does give "verbi causa" (can't remember offhand where exactly...) or at least he does according to my dictionary (Chambers Murray).
by cweb255
Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:48 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin-Greek Lexicon
Replies: 7
Views: 1471

Latin-Greek Lexicon

I found a Latin-Greek Lexicon at a bookstore here in Memphis from 1767. Anyone have any ideas on the best ways to preserve such a book?
by cweb255
Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:42 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Use of "HAC"
Replies: 6
Views: 1797

easy, hic, haec, hoc is a generic pronoun. Hac is ablative of, well, it wouldn't be gladius because gladius is masculine, but probably verba - word.

Verba is femine, singular, and when used with [by] it becomes ablative, hac is the appropriate word to use.
by cweb255
Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:36 pm
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: Meus and Tuus
Replies: 2
Views: 3188

First of all, meum is the abbreviated form of meorum, quite common in Latin. Just read some poetry. And how can you have a vocative singular form of "your"? I guess in something like "Your Majesty!" but then your is modifying majesty and "Maximus Tuus!" or something like that, since majesty isn't te...
by cweb255
Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:25 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: Cur?
Replies: 2
Views: 3024

Cur?

Cur "Latine" in loco verbae "Latina" scribitis? Hoc in fora multa vidi.
by cweb255
Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:00 am
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: Is Dative Necessary?
Replies: 3
Views: 2228

The sentence is actually saying (at least in classical use) "I gave roses towards you." Only later (but still fairly early, as someone earlier here mentioned Cicero used it in one of his personal letters) vulgarity made such usage common, and even later for accepted.
by cweb255
Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:13 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: bibliotheca antiquorum in praesens
Replies: 27
Views: 9101

shouldn't it be in praesente? tsk tsk...
by cweb255
Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:03 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Septuagint
Replies: 2
Views: 2011

Well, that is one of my particular interests, and one reason why I ordered the Septuagint. Check out my forum for more details, although as of now I'm fairly lacking in LXX arguments (have a couple...). I've only realy argued for its validity against the MT due to MSS found at the DSS site. All quit...