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by Democritus
Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:02 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin or Greek?
Replies: 26
Views: 9167

Carmen Homerus latinus seu Ilias latin» circa annum 65 post Christum natum Nerone vivo ab auctore ignoto - fortasse Baebio Italico - compositum est. It was made especially famous by Baehrens' edition of 1889. Where did you find this text? I wonder if there is a Latin version of the Odyssey online s...
by Democritus
Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:06 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: The high schoolers' grasp of first amendment.
Replies: 16
Views: 3844

Re: The high schoolers' grasp of first amendment.

Among its findings: * Nearly three-fourths of high school students either do not know how they feel about the First Amendment or admit they take it for granted. * Seventy-five percent erroneously think flag burning is illegal. * Half believe the government can censor the Internet. * More than a thi...
by Democritus
Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:19 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Comparisons of Greek and Latin
Replies: 12
Views: 3495

Re: Comparisons of Greek and Latin

It seems to be the happenstance of tradtional education that Greek seems harder. Are there any other opinions on this? I have been wondering about it for quite a while. I think Greek genuinely is harder, for several reasons: * Different alphabet, plus accents, which have some tricky rules around th...
by Democritus
Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:25 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: New Keyboard.......
Replies: 8
Views: 3257

Re: New Keyboard.......

Anybody else here have any experience with these?? My programmer boss has one and he absolutlely loves it...he couldn't live without it (that and his Star Trek USS Enterprise mouse pad), my other boss despises them.....what do you all think? I never though I would care about keyboards, until my pin...
by Democritus
Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:13 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: att'n computer geeks
Replies: 12
Views: 3827

Re: att'n computer geeks

"Find me every [likely] instance in which this aorist passive verb takes a direct object and is also coupled with this preposition taking the dative case" etc. Is there any software which can do that for modern languages? That seems like a rather hard problem. Detecting a preposition with a dative ...
by Democritus
Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:29 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: My exams are over!!!!
Replies: 12
Views: 3093

Re: My exams are over!!!!

Emma_85 wrote:all my exams are over - at last! :D :D :D
Congratulations. :)
by Democritus
Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:31 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: The Death of Grammar
Replies: 26
Views: 5279

Eh? I've not seen any examples of this. Could you provide some examples of disagreement over abstract meaning? It's an interesting idea, but I'm not sure it's not a worldwide phenomenon. What I had in mind, when I wrote that, was mixing up words like allude and refer . Or mixing up imply and infer ...
by Democritus
Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:10 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: The Death of Grammar
Replies: 26
Views: 5279

A common point for discussion worldwide is another plus for teaching grammar. I think that long term benefits of teaching grammar far surpass a get better test scores quick approach to "teaching" (if it can be called that). I also predict that removal of grammar will decrease scores in the long run...
by Democritus
Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:21 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: The Death of Grammar
Replies: 26
Views: 5279

Even then I'm doubtful. It is a common misconception that knowing a language means knowing its grammar and its vocabulary. It is about much, much more than that. We need to be careful not to fetishize grammar, which tempts us by its difficulty (difficult = prestigious), its boredom (dull = virtuous...
by Democritus
Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:55 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: The Death of Grammar
Replies: 26
Views: 5279

Your topic reminds me of David Mulroy's The War Against Grammar. I have personally found that in the US many are ignorant of grammar, and very little is being done to change that fact in the US public school system. I'd be willing to listen if someone could convince me otherwise. I grew up in the U...
by Democritus
Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:40 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Translation challenge
Replies: 9
Views: 1988

Re: Translation challenge

annis wrote:Poetry is what's lost in translation.

Latin or Greek.

[size=150]τὴν γλώσσην μεταφέρει ὁ γραμματικὸς, τὴν ποίησιν ποιεῖ ὁ μουσικός.[/size]

It's not really a translation, but I will throw it out there anyway, just for fun. :)
by Democritus
Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:18 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Translation challenge
Replies: 9
Views: 1988

Re: Translation challenge

Poetry is what's lost in translation. Latin or Greek. Verbis transferendis perit poetica. Does Latin or Greek have a phrase equivalent to "lost in translation" ? It sounds like neither reditio nor translatio (nor their corresponding verbs) are specific enough to use the way we use the english words...
by Democritus
Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:28 pm
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: Yes?
Replies: 13
Views: 10125

Re: Yes?

Why does Latin not have an emphatic yes or no? And how is it that Spanish and French do have these words? I don't know. :) German has a word doch which has no exact equivalent word in English. It's a way of disagreeing with someone, but with a positive assertion. We can do this in English, too, of ...
by Democritus
Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:07 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: My high school's language department is SAD. (long rant)
Replies: 29
Views: 7352

What all this stems from is, of course, American society. I feel you are being very optimistic if you think that the process of sinking intellectual standards is only occuring in the US. :) Indeed. You can find couch potatoes in any country that has couches and TVs. :) Actually even Socrates decrie...
by Democritus
Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:42 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: What is the name of the font in North and Hillard's key?
Replies: 2
Views: 859

Re: What is the name of the font in North and Hillard's key?

Porson , I believe is the font. Yes, that's it, thank you. Do you also happen to know the name of the font used in the little Liddell and Scott? I mean the boldface font used for dictionary entries. That font looks like Porson but it is upright. A lot of Greek fonts have diacriticals that are too s...
by Democritus
Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:55 am
Forum: Latin For Beginners by D'Ooge
Topic: Why the present tense here?
Replies: 11
Views: 8646

Re: Why the present tense here?

Exercitus qui in hostium finibus bellum gerit multis periculis circumdatus est . Quae pericula ut vitarent , Romani summam curam adhibere solebant Rather than a narrative present, maybe this sentence refers to any army, at any time. "An army which wages war in enemy territory (ever, anywhere) is (h...
by Democritus
Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:03 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: What is the name of the font in North and Hillard's key?
Replies: 2
Views: 859

What is the name of the font in North and Hillard's key?

What is the name of the Greek font used in so many books, for example, in North and Hillard's Greek Prose Composition Key? I mean the printer font, of course, not any computer font. This font seemed to be ubiquitous, but I don't see any new computer fonts that even resemble it. I'm wondering why. Is...
by Democritus
Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:12 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Ooh ooh ooh!
Replies: 46
Views: 13692

I've just ordered both versions--greek and latin. now the question... which should I read first? :P Pls read Greek first and tell me what it's like. :D This page has a link to a list of Greek vocabulary for   [size=150] Ἅρειος Ποτῆρ[/size], also some commentary (chapters 1 and 2 so far): http://www...
by Democritus
Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:29 am
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: Concerning olim and pars
Replies: 4
Views: 4075

Re: Pars

I'm not as familiar with olim, but I would imagine that the use as 'in the future' would be predicated on the tense of the verb that olim is modifying. As in, if a future tense is employed, olim would suggest 'in the future.' Yes, this is right. For the future tense, one possible translation for ol...
by Democritus
Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:32 am
Forum: The Agora
Topic: Duo novi libri ad linguam latinam vivo modo docendam
Replies: 0
Views: 2229

Duo novi libri ad linguam latinam vivo modo docendam

In Finnia duo libri in usum scholarum divulgati sunt, "quibus lingua Latina, haud aliter atque aliae linguae, vivo modo doceretur." http://www.yleradio1.fi/zgo.php?z=20031212024346953031&g=nuntii&u=11&x=3 Si forte haec coniunctio fracta erit, quaere titulum "Viva Latinitas in Finnia valet" (19.11.20...
by Democritus
Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:23 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: zeta pronounce
Replies: 57
Views: 51238

Since I last replied to this thread I have changed my mind, and I now favor the zd and only zd interpretation for zeta. Does it really have to be one or the other exclusively? Perhaps both pronunciations were present, in the ancient world. Like "either" and "either". Maybe Greek speakers didn't eve...
by Democritus
Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:33 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: French and German movie recommendation
Replies: 12
Views: 3567

I saw Run Lola Run and Goodbye Lenin here. Both were excellent films. Highly recommended, even if you don't know a word of German.
by Democritus
Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:24 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: French and German movie recommendation
Replies: 12
Views: 3567

Re: French and German movie recommendation

So... do you guys know a site that has French or German screenplays? (Am I asking for something naughty in terms of copyright?) Some DVDs have subtitles, including subtitles in the original language. I rented the DVD Das Boot and it also had subtitles in German. So you can watch the film in German ...
by Democritus
Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:34 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: dis?
Replies: 5
Views: 2149

Re: dis?

dis = divis, from divus -a -um, "divine", or "the gods" as a noun Cf. Aeneid, 6.124-131, where the Sybil tells Aeneas that the descent into hell is easy, it's the return that is the hard part: Talibus orabat dictis, arasque tenebat, cum sic orsa loqui vates: "Sate sanguine divum , Tros Anchisiade, f...
by Democritus
Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:13 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Akropolis World News (in Attic Greek)
Replies: 0
Views: 1038

Akropolis World News (in Attic Greek)

Annis mentioned this a few times before, but I'm reposting the URL because it's a nice little service.

Akropolis World News in Attic Greek. Updated every few days:

http://www.akwn.net/

There is a similar service available in Latin, courtesy Radio Finland:

http://www.yle.fi/fbc/latini/
by Democritus
Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:27 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: The Official Polypus Thread
Replies: 8
Views: 2338

primitive wrote:potesne audíre mé nunc? bonus!
Dixitne aliquis McDonalds?
by Democritus
Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:02 am
Forum: The Agora
Topic: Parva quaestio de grave re
Replies: 7
Views: 6470

Matthaeus wrote:Duces rerum publicorum Europae latinam ut linguam continentis imponere debent. Sed qumodo ei persuaderi possunt? :?:
Mittite legiones aliquot Romanos ad capita quaeque harum civitatum. Hoc modo forsitan eos persuadebitis. :lol: ;)
by Democritus
Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:54 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: translation puzzle on Aristotle's De Coloribus
Replies: 8
Views: 3545

Re: translation puzzle on Aristotle's De Coloribus

...[color=red]εἰ μὴ ἄρα[/color] τὸ μὲν τοῦ πυρὸς χρῶμα φῶς ἐστίν, [color=red]οὐ μέντοι καὶ[/color] τὸ φῶς πυρὸς ἐστι χρῶμα μόνου, . (which might be translated as " ... If the colour of fire is not light, and if light is not the colour of fire only, " In my opinion, the if-clause ends with ἐστίν, th...
by Democritus
Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:24 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Am I phonetically challenged?
Replies: 46
Views: 24538

I think one of the things that we're missing is the fact that Empty Man is from Augusta, Georgia. I grew up on the East Coast and now live here on the left coast, we pronounce calm and top just as EmptyMan described. The vowel sound is almost identical. But we don't pronounce corn the same way. It ...
by Democritus
Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:22 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: What's going on in America?
Replies: 38
Views: 10606

Could be that. A peaceful antiwar protest turning into a rioting and looting. Very probable.
Sure is.
No, it is not very probable. There is no evidence that anyone was looting during that event in L.A. Who said anything about looting?
by Democritus
Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:27 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: What's going on in America?
Replies: 38
Views: 10606

Re: What's going on in America?

Now they decided to go Tiananmen themselves? My impression, after seeing the film, is that the tanks just happened to be driving by, on their way someplace else. Or they may have been part of the protest. I doubt very much those tanks were called in by the police, as part of an enforcement activity...
by Democritus
Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:51 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Looking for a good read, in Latin or Greek
Replies: 9
Views: 2708

I have a suggestion. How about a Byzantine Greek novel? Niketas Eugenianos's 12th-century Drosilla and Charikles . It's a love story (and it has pirates too!). It's written in Atticized Greek. There is an English translation facing the Greek text. Truly, Democritus, it is quite wonderful. Thanks fo...
by Democritus
Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:05 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Looking for a good read, in Latin or Greek
Replies: 9
Views: 2708

Looking for a good read, in Latin or Greek

Right now I'm about 1/3 the way through Harrius Potter , and I think this text is helping my Latin improve immensely. I'm so glad the author produced this translation. Another text which I was able to read without too much difficulty is Gesta Romanorum . These texts are a little simpleminded (but th...
by Democritus
Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:22 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: I have an idea: Why don't the Blue states join Canada?
Replies: 49
Views: 9605

The Republicans don't contoll anything yet, the Dems can filabuster anytime they want. And, btw, I said almost contol the country. Thank goodness. There is no filibustering in the House of Representatives. And filibustering can only rarely used in the Senate. Most bills are passed by simple majorit...
by Democritus
Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:13 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: I have an idea: Why don't the Blue states join Canada?
Replies: 49
Views: 9605

Re: I have an idea: Why don't the Blue states join Canada?

PeterD wrote:Canada, in turn, will have acces to a warm year-round climate (i.e.,California -- Hi, Jeff!), an educated, liberal populace, and many other goodies which fail to come to mind ....
Could you please just take Arnold Schwarzenegger?

We can leave everything else as-is.

Thank you.
by Democritus
Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:03 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: I have an idea: Why don't the Blue states join Canada?
Replies: 49
Views: 9605

Nice. It's a red country all-right. Too bad these big cities can almost control the whole country. The Republicans (that's the Red guys) control the House of Representatives, the Senate, the White House and the Supreme Court, too. In fact the Senate is specifically designed to give less-populous st...
by Democritus
Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:59 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: I have an idea: Why don't the Blue states join Canada?
Replies: 49
Views: 9605

I'm really talking about any kind of non-millitary spending. Those massive farmers' subsidies would be spent mainly in red states. Remember that Republicans have been in control the House of Representatives for many years, and all federal spending bills must originate in the House. So anyone with c...
by Democritus
Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:55 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: I have an idea: Why don't the Blue states join Canada?
Replies: 49
Views: 9605

Califormia, for example, was almost entirely red. Only the counties with the large cities were blue. This one.... Remember that even in Red counties there are Blue voters, and vice versa. Red country is not as red as it appears. They only way to get a true picture would be to photograph the country...
by Democritus
Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:32 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Re-Election..
Replies: 59
Views: 12401

Economically conservative and socially liberal. But heck, I'm moving to Canada now. I don't think I can stand four more years of this hypocritical bible thumping *probably never even read the bible* neofascist. Don't leave, cweb, we need you here. Remember that the arrogant are always brought down,...
by Democritus
Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:10 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: qn about voter turnout in US
Replies: 24
Views: 4673

http://www.textkit.com/greek-latin-forum/viewtopic.php?t=2681&start=100 Kasper, I've tried to explain the German system a bit in this thread. I think that U.S. states should adopt the German system in the lower house of each legislature. The U.S. Congress is bicameral for a specific reason, but in ...