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by Callisper
Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:08 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Verse accentuation changes
Replies: 10
Views: 1304

Verse accentuation changes

As Postgate notes ("Short Guide...", 79), the rule of accent on L of -LS being circumflex does not apply to vowels so lengthened in verse, as in Homer φῑ́λε κασίγνητε. Correption does not change accentuation (AFAIK?). My general working assumption has always been that lengthening or shortening of vo...
by Callisper
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:54 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Oxford Classics degree overhaul
Replies: 16
Views: 2452

Re: Oxford Classics degree overhaul

Does the Classics programme there support an ab initio strand for those enrolling without a background in the languages or is it left up to the colleges to provide extra tuition to get "weaker" students up to scratch? There are ab initio "strands" (actually I cannot think of a better word - maybe "...
by Callisper
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:40 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Oxford Classics degree overhaul
Replies: 16
Views: 2452

Re: Oxford Classics degree overhaul

I don't think a request " that 40 per cent of recommended authors on philosophy reading lists are women" is unreasonable nor do I think the world will end because "the Faculty introduced a new undergraduate paper on feminist philosophy". What about the allegation - which I found in some online crit...
by Callisper
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:35 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Queen of Heaven cf. Kingdom of heaven, ἡ βασιλεία τῶν οὐρανῶν.
Replies: 3
Views: 1404

Re: Queen of Heaven cf. Kingdom of heaven, ἡ βασιλεία τῶν οὐρανῶν.

(Let me start by disclosing complete ignorance of Hebrew and extremely limited knowledge of theology.) To begin with the concrete: the TLG gives the phrase "βασίλεια τῶν οὐρανῶν" as coming up a (very) few times in early(-ish) Byzantine Greek theologians, but each that I checked simply got the accent...
by Callisper
Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:30 pm
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: She
Replies: 57
Views: 12780

Re: She

I like comic books. That's how I learned to read as a child. So they are, at least for me, a great pedagogical tool. When I was in high school,. I liked to translate from Italian to Latin. Now this exercise helps me remember the grammar and improve my knowledge of phraseology. I chose this book bec...
by Callisper
Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: She
Replies: 57
Views: 12780

Re: She

Callisper, Sorry, I missed your post. Thanks for querying posset. possit would have been better, wouldn’t it? (That may be what I meant to write.) I think it certainly would be better, but I would go for perfect potential subjunctive potuerit (since last time you castigated me for referring to Pink...
by Callisper
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: She
Replies: 57
Views: 12780

Re: She

Nam ego non poteram eum juvare. Illa autem potuisset. > , Illa autem fortasse posset. (potuisset suggests she could have done but didn’t.) Wouldn't posset imply lack of fulfillment? I think that's what's generally implied by a potential imperfect subjunctive. Or does posse work differently? (I woul...
by Callisper
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:48 pm
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: She
Replies: 57
Views: 12780

Re: She

(Disclaimer: I have not read most of it) Τίνα ὁδὸν βαδιούμεθα; > ποτέραν In fact you could take a hint from Xenophon here maybe: φησὶ γὰρ Ἡρακλέα, ἐπεὶ ἐκ παίδων εἰς ἥβην ὡρμᾶτο, ἐν ᾗ οἱ νέοι ἤδη αὐτοκράτορες γιγνόμενοι δηλοῦσιν εἴτε τὴν δι᾽ ἀρετῆς ὁδὸν τρέψονται ἐπὶ τὸν βίον εἴτε τὴν διὰ κακίας, ἐξ...
by Callisper
Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:08 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Minimal pairs in aspiration
Replies: 14
Views: 1777

Re: Minimal pairs in aspiration

For pedagogical purposes, this is almost useless. The very few useful words in my above list are in the Morwood ψευδεῖς φίλοι list, found in his grammar. I had a look at that list earlier today. Seems to be missing ἔξω & ἕξω which is probably the most important minimal pair (for a beginner to learn...
by Callisper
Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:04 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Minimal pairs in aspiration
Replies: 14
Views: 1777

Re: Minimal pairs in aspiration

As to copyists hypothetically getting breathings wrong, that’s a non-issue. Most manuscripts are full of corruption, and editors learn not to rely on breathings, which are only a secondary accession to the text in any case, generally absent from ancient manuscripts. Sure but what does that have to ...
by Callisper
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:57 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Minimal pairs in aspiration
Replies: 14
Views: 1777

Re: Minimal pairs in aspiration

And in context there’d be no confusion with any of them. I think this is a silly game. I'm not quite sure I agree with this. What do you think for instance of the work done (a long time ago) to create accent minimal pairs (words distinguished by accent alone), such as the lists Stephanus, Goettling...
by Callisper
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Minimal pairs in aspiration
Replies: 14
Views: 1777

Re: Minimal pairs in aspiration

ἔργμα ἕργμα ὥριος ὤριος ἔω ἕω αὐτοῦ αὑτοῦ εὖ εὗ εἴλησις εἵλησις ἄν ἅν ὥσπερ ὤσπερ εἶ εἷ ἁλιάς ἁἀλιάς αὐτός αὑτός ἀλεία ἁλεία ἀλίη ἁλίη ὁμόω ὀμόω ἤμων ἥμων ἔμεν ἕμεν ἕσσα ἔσσα ἔξω ἕξω ἰός ἱός ἅλιμος ἄλιμος οἶος οἷος ὁροφύλαξ ὀροφύλαξ ἑλλός ἐλλός οὐκ οὑκ ἐναχῶς ἑναχῶς ἵσμα ἴσμα ἅζω ἄζω ἅλινος ἄλινος ...
by Callisper
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Minimal pairs in aspiration
Replies: 14
Views: 1777

Re: Minimal pairs in aspiration

There's also the issue of whether they are the same, but the vowel quantity may differ. Off the top of my head a pretty common one, of course due to crasis, is the Attic ἅνθρωπος [ie, ὁ + ἄνθρωπος] vs ἄνθρωπος On crasis: of course this is its own ball-game. On differences in vowel quantity: would b...
by Callisper
Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plural of modesty?
Replies: 2
Views: 557

Re: Plural of modesty?

It would generally seem to be a plural for singular.

For argumentation see David Chamberlain, (2001), ""We the Others": Interpretive Community and Plural Voice in Herodotus" in 'Classical Antiquity', 20(1), 5-34.
by Callisper
Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Minimal pairs in aspiration
Replies: 14
Views: 1777

Minimal pairs in aspiration

Can anyone think of any pairs of words in Greek that are distinguished purely by a rough vs smooth breathing? Two have occurred to me already: οἷος & οἶος ; ὅρος & ὄρος. I'd be grateful if anyone can come up with any more. (Note that something like εἰς vs εἷς does not quite count because the words d...
by Callisper
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:33 am
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: Can you compose in Ionic Greek?
Replies: 7
Views: 2115

Re: Can you compose in Ionic Greek?

There are also plenty of later imitations of Herodotean Ionic: off the top of my head - Arrian Indica , Lucian De Dea Syria , De Astrologia , parts of Quomodo Historia Conscribenda Sit and Vitarum Auctio , and the Life of Homer by 'Pseudo-Herodotus'. If anyone has any to add it might start becoming ...
by Callisper
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:13 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Mixed conditional
Replies: 7
Views: 1143

Re: Mixed conditional

In Latin conditionals with subjunctive protasis and indicative apodosis are not all that uncommon, in particular for expressions of modality . You will often find such constructions with verbs like posse (Dido: "non potui abreptum divellere corpus et undis / spargere?"), velle, debere, oportere, and...
by Callisper
Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Subject always in main clause?
Replies: 8
Views: 1284

Re: Subject always in main clause?

What about Anabasis 1.1.1:

ἐπεὶ δὲ ἠσθένει Δαρεῖος καὶ ὑπώπτευε τελευτὴν τοῦ βίου, ἐβούλετο τὼ παῖδε ἀμφοτέρω παρεῖναι.

(I do think you are on to something. But might it be a function of tone rather than a syntactical rule?)