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by Aetos
Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: Greek Textbooks and Study Groups
Topic: Attica Intermediate Greek Answer Kwy
Replies: 2
Views: 3398

Re: Attica Intermediate Greek Answer Kwy

You'll need to set up an account with Yale University Press and then apply for instructor access. After that, you'll probably get an automatic reply denying access (unless you can provide instructor credentials)At this point, try sending an email explaining that your need for the answer key is due t...
by Aetos
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: First post
Replies: 5
Views: 1007

Re: First post

As you can see, there is some definite disagreement on the relative merits of Pharr! All you have to do is search for "Pharr" on the forums and you'll see what I mean. mwh mentions Paul Derouda's thoughts on Pharr and I will say that for the most part, I agree with Paul's view. By the time I found t...
by Aetos
Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:22 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: First post
Replies: 5
Views: 1007

Re: First post

Welcome to Textkit! Like yourself, I carried Pharr around for years (40+!), having started it at college and after retiring made finishing it one of my first goals in continuing the study of Greek. I went through Pharr cover to cover, doing all the exercises, learning all the forms, doing the scansi...
by Aetos
Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:12 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: The preposition "af"
Replies: 1
Views: 494

Re: The preposition "af"

Check the definition of "ab" in Lewis & Short. In a nutshell, "af" is a weakened form of "ap", which in turn is "analogous to the preposition apud". Cicero considered it archaic.

http://logeion.uchicago.edu/ab
by Aetos
Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:13 pm
Forum: Medieval and Neo-Latin
Topic: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"
Replies: 21
Views: 3008

Re: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"

You're most welcome, Carole! I had done some reading recently on Caroline & Gothic scripts and so was familiar with a few of the conventions. Aside from the index, the actual text is quite legible. Once I figured out I was in the 2nd volume, it was just a matter of going back to MDZ and looking for ...
by Aetos
Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:22 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Hdt.2.6.3 κατακεχύαται plural?, & function of τοιόσδε τις?
Replies: 15
Views: 1905

Re: Hdt.2.6.3 κατακεχύαται plural?, & function of τοιόσδε τις?

Here's what I believe is the appropriate section in Kühner: https://imgur.com/a/3STNPEA This is from the 1869 edition. Paragraph 214 isn't available on Perseus, as far as I can tell. He discusses the use of -αται, -ατο in the Attic dialect starting with note 8. Prior notes in this section deal with ...
by Aetos
Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:20 am
Forum: Medieval and Neo-Latin
Topic: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"
Replies: 21
Views: 3008

Re: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"

Thanks for the reply, Michael. I guess that's it, then. Considering the whole document was handwritten, it certainly is not surprising for there to be scribal errors. I don't think I ever wrote a letter (back when we wrote letters by hand)where I didn't have to correct something or even typed a pape...
by Aetos
Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:46 am
Forum: Medieval and Neo-Latin
Topic: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"
Replies: 21
Views: 3008

Re: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"

Michael, I think just from context the meaning of spectaret here is simply he (the Prior) would have to refer the matter to his superiors, since he didn't have the authority to grant FFF permission. It should be linked with "Qui cum diceret… non habere…..,sed ad ... spectaret. Perhaps "sed ad... spe...
by Aetos
Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: Medieval and Neo-Latin
Topic: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"
Replies: 21
Views: 3008

Re: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"

Salve Carole! Found it: spepsaret= spectaret (Hassler, Vol 1., p.65) https://app.digitale-sammlungen.de/bookshelf/bsb00044095/view?currentUrl=%2Fview%2Fbsb00044095%3Fview%3DImageView&manifest=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.digitale-sammlungen.de%2Fiiif%2Fpresentation%2Fv2%2Fbsb00044095%2Fmanifest&canvas=https%3A...
by Aetos
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:08 pm
Forum: Medieval and Neo-Latin
Topic: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"
Replies: 21
Views: 3008

Re: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"

Salve Carole! Thanks for providing the link to the original text(?)! I'm still going through it, but so far I can tell you that the first 46 pages constitute the index (register). Following the drawing, a much more legible text follows. This is the beginning of FFF's second part, continuing his desc...
by Aetos
Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:14 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Writing 'Ancient Greek' in Ancient Greek
Replies: 8
Views: 1224

Re: Writing 'Ancient Greek' in Ancient Greek

How about:
ἀττική διάλεκτος (Attic Greek)
ἰωνική διάλεκτος (Ionic Dialect)
δωρική διάλεκτος (Doric Dialect)
αἰόλια διάλεκτος (Aeolian Dialect)
by Aetos
Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:13 pm
Forum: Medieval and Neo-Latin
Topic: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"
Replies: 21
Views: 3008

Re: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"

I thought we were in Byzantium, too and like yourself started reading some of the text, only to discover that I was way off! See my post above. Our brother Felix is describing sailing on the good ship Buzatorium to the St. Nicholas' Monastery on Ascension Day in Venice 1480. It is named after Βουκέφ...
by Aetos
Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Medieval and Neo-Latin
Topic: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"
Replies: 21
Views: 3008

Re: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"

alyu - p.98 alliiu -p.148 EDIT: Deleted theory-misread city-still looking for Buzatorium. Well, I now know that Buzatorium was the name of a ship which made an annual trip from Venice to the Monastery/Church of St. Nicholas in the Lido on the day of the Ascension in May. (At first I thought it was a...
by Aetos
Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:29 am
Forum: Medieval and Neo-Latin
Topic: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"
Replies: 21
Views: 3008

Re: Help needed: errors in "Fratris Felicis Fabri Evagatorium"

"Quo dicto alta voce incepi: <de>Christ ist erstanden 2c.</de> Finito illo versu rursum intonavi; <de>In Gottes Namen fahren wir seiner Gnaden 2c.</de>" Am I correct in transcribing these characters as "2c." or should it be "&c." (for "etc.")? Note: The "<de>" is a mark-up for German text. I think ...
by Aetos
Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:37 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Brief Grammar Lesson
Replies: 1
Views: 488

Re: Brief Grammar Lesson

This is usually followed by: buh-duh-bump... :lol:
by Aetos
Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: The Owl’s Legacy
Replies: 2
Views: 864

Re: The Owl’s Legacy

Here's another article on the film which goes into a little more depth: https://hyperallergic.com/467285/chris-marker-tv-series-the-owls-legacy-icarus-films-metrograph/ It's a little expensive to buy, think I'll wait till it makes it to PBS! https://www.amazon.com/Owls-Legacy-Elia-Kazan/dp/B07HGHQYQ...
by Aetos
Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:59 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Translation of the Word ἤγγικεν at Jas 5:8 and 1Pe 4:7
Replies: 8
Views: 1478

Re: Translation of the Word ἤγγικεν at Jas 5:8 and 1Pe 4:7

Here is the Liddell Scott definition of ἐγγίζω: ἐγγίζω, aor. ἤγγισα Arist. (v. infr.): pf. ἤγγικα LXX Ez. 7.4(7), Ev.Matt. 3.2: (ἐγγύς):—Αbring near, bring up to, τῇ γῇ τὰς ναῦς Plb. 8.4.7; τὰ φιλήματα τοῖς χείλεσι Ach.Tat. 2.37; τινὰ πρός τινα LXX Ge. 48.10. IImostly intr., approach, Arist. Mir. 84...
by Aetos
Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:50 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Resources for Those New to Textkit
Replies: 0
Views: 438

Resources for Those New to Textkit

This is in response to @Cathexis' thread looking for pinned articles on fonts/keyboards as well as providing how-to information for those new to the forum. This link is actually provided by @jeidsath: http://www.dramata.com/ This is a resource page published by the Louisiana State Uni's classics dep...
by Aetos
Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Did the old board have pinned articles for,...?
Replies: 8
Views: 1141

Re: Did the old board have pinned articles for,...?

It's from someone else; however, there's no author listed. I have an account at archive.org, so I can upload it there. I will try to find out where I got it from and post a link. Well, that was easy: http://www.dramata.com/Ancient%20polytonic%20Greek%20in%20Windows.pdf Have a look and see if it's he...
by Aetos
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:17 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Did the old board have pinned articles for,...?
Replies: 8
Views: 1141

Re: Did the old board have pinned articles for,...?

Hi Joel, I have a .pdf that is a pretty good guide to using the Unicode greek polytonic keyboard in MS Windows. It assumes a US keyboard, but with that in mind, it shows almost all keystroke combinations, particularly for characters having iota subscripts. I know I can't upload attachments personall...
by Aetos
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:16 am
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: who was the author of the dinner party talk?
Replies: 8
Views: 1632

Re: who was the author of the dinner party talk?

Hi Andrew That's basically why I sprang for the Xenophon collection-the price and the portability. I was usually away from home 4 days a week, every week, so I liked to carry my library with me. This is way off topic, but another thing I did was use Microsoft OneDrive to connect to my home PC and do...
by Aetos
Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:23 pm
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: who was the author of the dinner party talk?
Replies: 8
Views: 1632

Re: who was the author of the dinner party talk?

I have a couple of the Delphi Series pubs. Basically, they present the English versions of the collected works of the author, then the collection of Greek texts. No commentary, no critical apparatus.
by Aetos
Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:50 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Philoctetes, questions.
Replies: 9
Views: 1300

Re: Philoctetes, questions.

There's a rule where if the 2nd consonant is a liquid (ρ), then the preceding vowel can be short or long, as required by the verse. Our resident metricians will be able to give you a much more detailed explanation. Here's Smyth: 145. A stop with a liquid after a short vowel need not make the precedi...
by Aetos
Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:26 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: hair or mane flying
Replies: 1
Views: 548

Re: hair or mane flying

Livy describes long red hair as:
"promissae et rutilatae comae"
so perhaps:
promissis rutilatisque comis volantibus, Boadicea essedum agitat.
by Aetos
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:05 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Iliad B353
Replies: 4
Views: 1039

Re: Iliad B353

Checking the notes in my Leaf & Bayfield, they mention that ἀστράπτων "should strictly be accusative, but the anacoluthon is natural". In Smyth: 3006. Anacoluthon usually produces the effect of naturalness and liveliness, sometimes of greater clearness (as after long parentheses), or of brevity, for...
by Aetos
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ὁσάκις ἂν
Replies: 30
Views: 2539

Re: ὁσάκις ἂν

Hylander, mwh:
I just want to thank you for your participation in this thread. I always learn something every time you guys post and very much appreciate your time and patience.
by Aetos
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin Grammar, by Dirk Panhuis
Replies: 3
Views: 2929

Re: Latin Grammar, by Dirk Panhuis

You can get the German version, if you act fast! https://www.amazon.de/Set-Lateinische-Grammatik-Panhuis-Wortkunde/dp/311040916X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544123200&sr=8-1&keywords=Panhuis+lateinische+grammatik Of course, it's 42,5 Euros. It was the only one available for purchase and shipment to the ...
by Aetos
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:39 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ὁσάκις ἂν
Replies: 30
Views: 2539

Re: ὁσάκις ἂν

I'm shocked that a German educator could make a mistake! Seriously though, in his forward, he refers to eight other teachers that he submitted the book to for their opinion. None of them caught this. It was enough to make me spend some serious time in Smyth (not a bad thing, of course)!
by Aetos
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:00 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ὁσάκις ἂν
Replies: 30
Views: 2539

Re: ὁσάκις ἂν

Hi Randy, To be honest, I don't know whether the use of the optative here is invalid; I think both statements are fine. The problem is with the "Übersetzung", the German translation: The Greek was provided by a Professor Schneider, the translation was provided by the author, Herr Damm. To match the ...
by Aetos
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:50 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ὁσάκις ἂν
Replies: 30
Views: 2539

Re: ὁσάκις ἂν

There's no question that the subjunctive seems more appropriate; I'm just mystified that he used the optative in the first place and it's clear that he intended it, as he references the use of the optative in his vocabulary list for that section. Perhaps I'm nitpicking, but for me the conundrum cont...
by Aetos
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:34 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ὁσάκις ἂν
Replies: 30
Views: 2539

Re: ὁσάκις ἂν

I think the difference is in how the optative is used:
the potential optative is an independent use of the optative, whereas its use in a future less vivid conditional statement is a dependent use of the optative.
by Aetos
Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:45 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin for "patrol"
Replies: 2
Views: 695

Re: Latin for "patrol"

I'm voting for circumitio, as it has a specific military meaning of "making the rounds", which implies guarding.
by Aetos
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:04 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ὁσάκις ἂν
Replies: 30
Views: 2539

Re: ὁσάκις ἂν

Hi Bedwere, This isn't so much an answer as another question: For an indefinite temporal clause, the subjunctive plus ἄν would be used, so χρεία ᾖ. On the other hand, do you suppose he considers "as often as it is necessary"(so oft wie es nötig ist) as requiring the potential optative? Note that the...
by Aetos
Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:59 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Bowen's Advanced Greek Unseens
Replies: 94
Views: 11024

Re: Bowen's Advanced Greek Unseens

Here are the appropriate sections on transliteration from Pharr:

https://imgur.com/a/CAjzEhp

It's certainly not complete, but it's (slightly) better than nothing. I took a look through Smyth and couldn't find anything either. Surprising.
by Aetos
Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:06 am
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: Tabulae Pictae
Replies: 5
Views: 2468

Re: Tabulae Pictae

voluit fortasse "abscedentia" scribere

https://www.wikiart.org/en/alfred-sisle ... lnuts-1876
by Aetos
Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:38 pm
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: Tenea-City built by Trojan prisoners
Replies: 11
Views: 2410

Re: Tenea-City built by Trojan prisoners

Strabo does mention Tenea (Geography, 8.6.22) but restricts his remarks to a possible kinship between the people of Tenea and Tenedos, through King Tennes of Tenedos as well as from the similar worship of Apollo: δοκεῖ δὲ καὶ συγγένειά τις εἶναι Τενεδίοις πρὸς τούτους ἀπὸ Τέννου τοῦ Κύκνου, καθάπερ ...
by Aetos
Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Vocabulary study resource
Replies: 2
Views: 620

Re: Vocabulary study resource

Nice tool!
Works great in Edge and Chrome. Couldn't get it to display correctly in Internet Explorer 11.
by Aetos
Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:29 pm
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: Tenea-City built by Trojan prisoners
Replies: 11
Views: 2410

Re: Tenea-City built by Trojan prisoners

Here's the New York Times' version of the story:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ric ... cid=HPCDHP
Somewhat more accurate.
by Aetos
Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:39 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: online NT Greek
Replies: 7
Views: 1585

Re: online NT Greek

I'm certainly no expert, but searching through the catalogue of the Holy Cross bookstore (greek orthodox theological school), I eventually found the UBS5 Greek New Testament Readers Edition, but it's only published in print. I did find this: https://www.amazon.com/Readers-Greek-New-Testament-Third/d...