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Eureka! If only one scenario exists then why would we be uncertain about things? Just because something is possible does not mean that the certainties we hold are automatically uncertain. If you ask me, so what if there is another possibility? The fact of the matter is, what is happening is happenin...

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The point is the uncertainty. And this works in events. How is it different Ok, with the jellybean scenario, we know that there is a green jellybean in the jar. What your idea of uncertainty was describing is that there may or may not even be a green jellybean in there in the first place! Let me re...

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That's completely different than what you're claiming. Prove this: In order to be absolutely certain about something, the odds of what they think must be 100%. I can always think of a possibility that works in the same situation. It is possible, but unlikely. Therefore, we must take this possibility...

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Prove this: In order to be absolutely certain about something, the odds of what they think must be 100%. I can always think of a possibility that works in the same situation. It is possible, but unlikely. Therefore, we must take this possibility into account. It makes the 100% choice, diminish to a ...

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Everything you have claimed to be true.

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You just repeated what you said above. I'd like you to prove what you said rather than saying it again.

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Prove it.

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Nope. I only see one reality. I only hear one reality. I only smell one reality. I only touch one reality. I only taste one reality. I only perceive one reality. Also, I am certain this reality is real because others perceive it in the same way as I do. Via communication with others, my perception o...

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Things that may be happening have no effect or influence on things that are happening. Thus, no uncertainty is created.

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I see what you're trying to get at but I still think you're missing the point. Sure, it's possible that all of these bizarre things are happening, but are they really? In my opinion, no, they are not happening. These "other possibilities" have no bearing or effect on anything! They mean nothing. Jus...

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You keep meshing what could be happening and what is happening. They are two completely different concepts. Just because there is a possibility of something doesn't mean it's really happening. Sure this might be happening, but we all know it's not.

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Just because something is complex doesn't mean that there is going to be errors left and right. And also, is there any difference between reality and our interpretations? It's the same thing if you ask me... Why would it be any different?

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Why can you not prove that it is?

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Where does this uncertainty come from? Why would there be some random uncertainty in out conclusions/observations?

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We cannot know anything with absolute certainty except our own definitions/interpretations of the universe. That statement is kind of weird... It just occurred to me that all of the arguing we had been doing in the last 6 pages of this thread was in vein. We BOTH misunderstood what that statement w...

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None of what you said applies to what I'm talking about. What I was trying to say is that that formula and other relationships similar to it have always existed. We didn't make them. They were there since the beginning of time. Anyways, that's almost beside the point. What I was initially trying to ...

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Since this is all about proving things, prove that the formula f=ma is correct in every situation. I must say, there is a nasty surprise for you...

That would take too long. Instead, I suggest that we try to find an instance where it DOESN'T work.

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Man did not create the relationship F = ma. That relationship has existed since the beginning of time. All we did is discover it.

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Very well. Given: F=ma If I were to apply 40N of force to a stationary object that had a mass of 20kg, the object's acceleration would increase to 2 m/s/s. I can then apply this to reality. I see what I believe to be a soccer ball. Given that this soccer ball is stationary and that its mass is 20kg,...

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I disagree. We can apply math to situations without ever having to witness the things being discussed. Forget apples. That is a terrible example. I'm talking about figuring out the circumference of a circle using pi. Pi was not man made. It existed long before man did. We don't need to even see a ci...

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Here is an example of what I am trying to say: Man made the concept of numbers. Using numbers we can derive all sorts of interesting relationships. Oddly enough, these relationships were not man made...They existed in nature already... To be specific, coordinate geometry. All of the relationships ex...

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We'll talk about it later, but for now, math seems to be the only thing that we can be certain of. Furthermore, math is derived from the world we live in and applies directly to it, which makes me believe that if there is math behind a concept, we can be absolutely certain about it. So, I think it w...

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I still think that there are some things we can know with absolute certainty. Example: 1 + 1 = 2

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I see what you are saying. These possiblities still exist; however, the question now is WHY do these possiblities exist? Also, consider this: Even if these possibilities are possible, are they really happening? I for one, think that they are POSSIBLE but I do not think that they are actually happeni...

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Why don't you know whether or not you have this disease? What is creating the uncertainty? Surely if you can detect things the way a majority of the other human beings do, then your senses are fine. Why are you doubting the functionality of your senses? P.S. - It seems to me that you just keep spitt...

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It does not mean that my senses are functioning perfectly. I never said that. I said they are functioning perfectly NORMALLY. You said before that you don't think you have one because no symptoms have shown. Even if they may show in the future, the fact is they are not showing now. Thus, your sense...

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Quetion 1: Do you have any kind of disease that affects your senses? I do not think I do because no symptoms have shown. Therefore I probably do not, but possibily have one that has not shown symptoms yet. So basically, your senses are functioning perfectly normally. You currently don't have any sy...

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Alright, I'm up for it. Let's see now...How do we prove that the earth exists? Ok, here we go. I will use a series of questions to prove to you that the earth exists: Quetion 1: Do you have any kind of disease that affects your senses? Question 2: Can you see the earth? Question 3: Can you feel the ...

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I now assume that you are aetheist. I am not an atheist. However, I do not believe in God in the traditional sense. The Bible to me is simply a story book. It is filled with little stories that have lessons to them. These lessons and morals that the Bible teaches are important. As to whether or not...

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So you will not believe me unless I prove it. Correct. If you cannot prove something I don't believe it. Now try this. Would you believe that we cannot know with absolute certainty anything except for our interpretations of the universe and this sentence? No, because you have provided no proof and/...

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I understand what you are saying. However, not to be rude or anything, but I think that the entire claim is a logical fallacy. It tries to prove itself based on the assumption that what it is claiming is true. It's just a belief, not a fact. A few closing remarks: Lastly, I ask you this, why would t...

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My previous post was in reply to the post threewood made before primitive. This post is in reply to the post threewood made before my previous one. I don't think you understand the fact that hypothetical situations have not happened, thus they are not true!!! You cannot use hypothetical scenarios as...

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Is my claim dependent on something that is not possible? No, and I never said anything about whether or not it was possible, all I said was that it was based on things that haven't happened yet or are not happening now; thus they are false. You have no proof whatsoever, and according to you, you ca...

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The zero was to signify the present. That's all. So basically, I agree with your line.

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Yes it is possible for this to happen, but the fact of the matter is that it can nver be proven that that is reality because our senses may cause us to believe the wrong things. That is a conditional statement. It's not true. Also, why would our senses be deceiving us at all? Sure, if someone had a...

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You both missed my point. If I make something totally new up, then I understand it. Ok, I'm going to make up a new word. Here it is: Choobangshoo. It's a one word sentence for my shoe is smelly. How is it possible for me to not understand this concept when I am the one who thought of it?

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Your very concept is faulty. All of your statements are conditional. For example: If this is true then this is true. However, none of your hypothetical, theoretical scenarios have anything to do with the truth. You are not properly differentiating about what really IS happening and what MIGHT be hap...

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We cannot prove anything without assuming something first. Incorrect. We didn't have to assume anything in the beginning. All we knew was what was given. The only thing that had been given was the universe. We didn't have to assume anything about it. We simply took the things we detected and define...

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None of that makes any sense. Of course I can prove that I am a male. I fit the definition of one, thus I am male. I don't see the problem...

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