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by Laurentius Mons
Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: LLPSI Audio Book on YouTube (Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata, Familia Romana, Colloquia Personarum)
Replies: 3
Views: 240

Re: LLPSI Audio Book on YouTube (Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata, Familia Romana, Colloquia Personarum)

I think recording the books that have not previously been recorded is a very good idea! I used Ørberg's recordings of Familia Romana while working through the book and profited immensely from being able to listen to the chapters being read aloud. However, I'm wondering if you asked for permission to...
by Laurentius Mons
Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:54 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Reading Livy
Replies: 5
Views: 542

Re: Reading Livy

The second book of the Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata series, Roma Aeterna, contains lots of passages from Livy. They are adapted at first, but as you progress they become more and more authentic. Reading those passages first will make it easier to approach Livy in an unadapted form later on. Famil...
by Laurentius Mons
Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:34 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: greek core vocab
Replies: 2
Views: 1538

Re: greek core vocab

I think starting with the most common words in the language is certainly going to be helpful, but memorizing individual words without context usually isn't the best method. Instead I'd recommend you get a textbook for beginners and study the vocabulary that is used in the readings. That way you will...
by Laurentius Mons
Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:44 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Prendergast's Mastery Series (Latin)
Replies: 7
Views: 3126

Re: Prendergast's Mastery Series (Latin)

Thank you for the introduction to that work, it's always interesting to learn about the variety of teaching materials that is out there. That method reminds me of the drills found in audiolingual teaching and I think it would probably suffer from the same problems: Wouldn't it be very boring to lear...
by Laurentius Mons
Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:22 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Speaker identifications in Plato
Replies: 5
Views: 2309

Re: Speaker identifications in Plato

I would say your experience certainly hints at the quality of the writing as well as at your own language skills! However, I find the criticism you cited quite exaggerated. Modern editions of ancient texts contain lots of helpful additions or modifications that are not really true to the original, b...
by Laurentius Mons
Thu May 11, 2017 2:22 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Krashen and Ancient Greek teaching methods
Replies: 48
Views: 21775

Re: Krashen and Ancient Greek teaching methods

I find that most of his points are not controversial at all. Does anyone really think you consciously apply rules when reading or speaking? I agree that the only way to pick up vocab is by (free) reading and more (free) reading. Forget flash cards and memorization. Most people don't disagree with K...
by Laurentius Mons
Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:59 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: First time Reading Ancient Texts
Replies: 4
Views: 1835

Re: First time Reading Ancient Texts

I'd suggest you finish Familia Romana first, maybe read Colloquia Personarum and Fabulae Syrae as well, and then move on to Sermones Romani. The book is a collection of excerpts from various ancient texts that Ørberg edited for students by adding marginal notes and drawings, just like in Familia Rom...
by Laurentius Mons
Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:33 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Improvements for Lingua Latina?
Replies: 6
Views: 2579

Re: Improvements for Lingua Latina?

I think writing a legitimately good story for total beginners in a language is a very good idea, but it is also a very tricky thing to do. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I think it is very difficult because keeping it simple and making it interesting are somewhat conflicting goals. Considering...
by Laurentius Mons
Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:37 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Improvements for Lingua Latina?
Replies: 6
Views: 2579

Re: Improvements for Lingua Latina?

I am a fan of the LLPSI series, too, and I agree creating similar books for other languages is a very good idea! Are you aware of the books "English by the Nature Method", "Le Français par la Méthode Nature", and "L'Italiano secondo il Metodo Natura"? These books use pretty much the same approach as...
by Laurentius Mons
Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:11 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Sidgwick's First Greek Writer useful with what?
Replies: 7
Views: 3065

Re: Sidgwick's First Greek Writer useful with what?

You don't really need to know Italian to profit from the Italian Athenaze, especially if you're not a total beginner. The book contains lots of simple, graded reading with illustrations and marginal notes in Greek. Not knowing Italian means you won't be able to understand some of the vocab notes, bu...
by Laurentius Mons
Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:24 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is this "cheating" the way I use Roma Aeterna
Replies: 3
Views: 2022

Re: Is this "cheating" the way I use Roma Aeterna

Do you have the impression that doing this helps you improve your Latin? If yes, then I don't see why you shouldn't do this. In general I think using a translation or paraphrase in your native language to better understand the meaning of a Latin passage is a completely legitimate strategy and I don'...
by Laurentius Mons
Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:10 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help with Roma Aeterna
Replies: 2
Views: 1688

Re: Help with Roma Aeterna

If you find Roma Aeterna too challenging, which I can totally understand since it is much more difficult than Familia Romana, I recommend looking for some easier reading material (Fabulae Syrae, Epitome Historiae Sacrae, Fabulae Divales, Ritchie's Fabulae Faciles) as well as rereading Familia Romana...
by Laurentius Mons
Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:45 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Staying motivated
Replies: 12
Views: 5173

Re: Staying motivated

I had always followed the "weighlifter" strategy of choosing progressively more difficult texts but I can see how that may have its own pitfalls. I think choosing more and more difficult texts is a very good strategy, but I'd say that when reading feels like drudgery, you've probably moved on to qu...
by Laurentius Mons
Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:42 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Staying motivated
Replies: 12
Views: 5173

Re: Staying motivated

I think one good thing to do is to choose a text that is easy enough for you to read fluently, because then reading won't be a struggle anymore. I mean sure, you can push yourself and work through Cicero, but you could also pick up the Gesta Romanorum, the Historia Apollonii regis Tyri or even Harri...
by Laurentius Mons
Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:19 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Graded readers in Ancient Greek -poll
Replies: 50
Views: 21931

Re: Graded readers in Ancient Greek -poll

The problem I see with that reader, Dante, is that it contains original texts, which, although they might be very suitable for translation practice, are surely too hard for fluent extensive reading by any but the most advanced students of Greek.
by Laurentius Mons
Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:32 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Ancient Greek Wikipedia
Replies: 4
Views: 1966

Re: Ancient Greek Wikipedia

Okay, if you present this a being a choice between people writing either Greek Wikipedia articles or graded readers that are suitable for beginners and allow them to read Greek extensively, then I agree. However, I'm not sure if that's really the case. I think there are other reasons for that.
by Laurentius Mons
Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:23 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Graded readers in Ancient Greek -poll
Replies: 50
Views: 21931

Re: Graded readers in Ancient Greek -poll

Although my experience learning Greek is very limited, I think more comprehensible reading material would be great! I'm convinced comprehensible input is necessary in order to truly learn a language partly because my ability to understand Latin really took off after I started reading the language ex...
by Laurentius Mons
Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:28 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Ancient Greek Wikipedia
Replies: 4
Views: 1966

Re: Ancient Greek Wikipedia

Well, I've heard the same kind of objections made against the Latin Wikipedia, which allegedly is plagued by sub-par Latin. I haven't really used it much, so I can't tell whether that is true or not, but even if it were, I still think it's good that Latin and ancient Greek Wikipedia projects exist b...
by Laurentius Mons
Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:01 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Do you speak Attic?
Replies: 10
Views: 5004

Re: Do you speak Attic?

I don't really know much Greek, but I am from Germany, so I'd like to add my thoughts: I don't think that "but he had doubts that the German expressions in the section "A Million" were too mild" is a good translation of "hat ... die deutschen Ausdrücke in dem Abschnitt "Ein Grand" zu mildern aber Be...
by Laurentius Mons
Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: spoken latin
Replies: 4
Views: 2136

Re: spoken latin

You might also want to look for Facebook groups. There's a group that's called "Latine Loquamur", for example, where people write in Latin. I think there you might find some conversation partners as well.
by Laurentius Mons
Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:10 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How do you pronounce your Latin?
Replies: 20
Views: 8907

Re: How do you pronounce your Latin?

Well, as far as I know most Germans pronounce Latin <e> as [⁠ɛ] when it is short and as [eː] when it is long, as they would usually do in German. When you say you hear people pronounce the <e> as a "short i", do you mean the same vowel as in <sit>, i.e. [ɪ]? Because I don't think I've heard people p...
by Laurentius Mons
Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:44 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How many hours per day do you spend studying latin?
Replies: 3
Views: 2099

Re: How many hours per day do you spend studying latin?

My daily study times varies quite a bit because I'm not very disciplined :D I usually listen to Latin lectures or podcasts while going to university and back, which amounts to some 20-30 minutes a day, and sometimes I do the same while doing stuff around the house, such as washing dishes. I think li...
by Laurentius Mons
Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:37 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How do you pronounce your Latin?
Replies: 20
Views: 8907

Re: How do you pronounce your Latin?

I originally learned the German pronunciation of Latin at school, which basically means you replace all the classical sounds that don't occur in German by German sounds, which notably includes pronouncing <r> as /ʁ/ (or not pronouncing it at all after vowels, at least in my region) and <v> as /v/ in...
by Laurentius Mons
Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:00 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: New member introduction
Replies: 1
Views: 1189

New member introduction

Salvete omnes! I'd like to introduce myself: My name is Lars, I'm from Germany, and I'm a student of British and American studies and history with an interest in Latin, especially in teaching and learning Latin using methods more commonly employed in modern foreign language learning. This means I'm ...