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by polemistes
Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:10 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ..., ὁ δὲ σοφόν τι ἐζήτει καὶ ἐλθεῖν οὐκ ἤθελεν.
Replies: 5
Views: 229

Re: ..., ὁ δὲ σοφόν τι ἐζήτει καὶ ἐλθεῖν οὐκ ἤθελεν.

To be sure how this sentence works the whole is needed. It's better if you post the whole sentence in your question, and choose a descriptive title instead. Still, it's quite clear that ὁ δέ here is the subject and σοφόν τι is the object. You probably know that the definite article used with particl...
by polemistes
Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:28 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Unit 16
Replies: 3
Views: 176

Re: Unit 16

First, why do you think "was leading" should be in the middle voice. There is no reason for this here. Perhaps if he were leading someone into his trap, implying that it was for his own interest, but that's far fetched. Secondly you need to revise the different endings for different tenses. You use ...
by polemistes
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:51 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: pay tribute / οισομεν ???
Replies: 5
Views: 554

Re: pay tribute / οισομεν ???

Also notice that οἴομαι doesn't have an active form, and it's future is οἰήσομαι (3rd. pl. οἰησόμεθα).
by polemistes
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:47 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Aristophanes -Frogs
Replies: 3
Views: 492

Re: Aristophanes -Frogs

I don't know much about commentaries to Aristotle, so you would perhaps have more luck asking about this in a separate thread.
by polemistes
Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:23 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Aristophanes -Frogs
Replies: 3
Views: 492

Re: Aristophanes -Frogs

There are two good editions with commentaries for Frogs, one by K. J. Dover and the other by A. H. Sommerstein, which also has an English transtation accompanying the Greek text. Both discuss grammar, Dover perhaps somewhat more. There is also an abridged version of it for students. https://books.go...
by polemistes
Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:07 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plat., Protag.
Replies: 68
Views: 4749

Re: Prot 330a τὸ δὲ ἄλλο

Why do you think it must be copulative?
by polemistes
Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:13 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plat., Protag.
Replies: 68
Views: 4749

Re: Prot 330a τὸ δὲ ἄλλο

Look at LSJ for ἄλλος ΙΙ.3: ἄ. καὶ ἄ., one and then another... ἕκαστον δέ ... τὸ δέ, makes a contrast, almost like τὸ μέν ... τὸ δέ ... So it becomes something like "each of them is one thing, I said, and the other is something else?", which perhaps is more clearly written in English: "Is each of th...
by polemistes
Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:30 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: omission of article, Men 84e
Replies: 14
Views: 1470

Re: omission of article, Men 84e

This is a strange discussion. It's the plain distinction between attributive and predicative position.

"οὐκοῦν ἐστιν αὕτη γραμμὴ ..." means "isn't this a line ..."

while

"οὐκοῦν ἐστιν αὕτη ἡ γραμμὴ ..." means "isn't this line ..."

the last wouldn't make much sense in the sentence.
by polemistes
Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:18 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: long alpha/short alpha
Replies: 10
Views: 1040

Re: long alpha/short alpha

In most cases also long alpha augments to eta. LSJ usually gives the vowel length when it is known, but not for case endings etc. which you can find in a grammar. For prefixes you usually have to look up the prefix itself in LSJ. So if you look up ἀ (the first entry of LSJ), in the meaning "not-", t...
by polemistes
Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Phaed 80c
Replies: 7
Views: 1040

Re: Phaed 80c

No, it is a relative adjective of amount (of time), which is how the word normally functions, as is described in LSJ: Relat. and indirect interrog. Adj.:—of Size, as great as, how great; of Quantity, as much as, how much ; of Space, as far as, how far; of Time, as long as, how long; of Number, as ma...
by polemistes
Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Phaed 80c
Replies: 7
Views: 1040

Re: Phaed 80c

No, to me it looks like an accusative of duration.
by polemistes
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Xen Ap 34
Replies: 4
Views: 702

Re: Xen Ap 34

οὔτε μή μεμνῆσθαι without οὐ is also fine (as Xenophon probably knows better than Smyth and us), and the meaning is almost the same. Smyth mentiones this also, of course: 2749. Instead of μὴ οὐ we find also μή, τὸ μή, τοῦ μή, τὸ μὴ οὐ (but not τοῦ μὴ οὐ). a. μή (rarely; cp. 2744. 1): ““ἔλεγον ὅτι . ...
by polemistes
Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:50 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Xen Ap 34
Replies: 4
Views: 702

Re: Xen Ap 34

Negatives can be confusing. (You got the order wrong in the question, it is μὴ οὐ, not οὐ μή). This is explained in Smyth 2745-47: II. μὴ οὐ with the Infinitive depending on Negatived Verbs [*] 2745. Any infinitive that would take μή, takes μὴ οὐ (with a negative force), if dependent on a negatived ...
by polemistes
Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Pl Rep 495b
Replies: 1
Views: 368

Re: Pl Rep 495b

No, at least according to LSJ when δράω takes two accusatives it means "do something x to y". Greek verbs are tricky, since you can't assume that two verbs with similar meaning take the same types of arguments. So ποιέω could have worked the way you assume δράω works here. By the way, it would be mu...
by polemistes
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Οστις
Replies: 6
Views: 639

Re: Οστις

I'm not so well versed in what a definite antecedent means, but I think this is definite enough, isn't it?
Plato Apology 23b3 wrote:Οὗτος ὑμῶν, ὦ ἄνθρωποι, σοφώτατός ἐστιν, ὅστις ὥσπερ Σωκράτης ἔγνωκεν ὅτι οὐδενὸς ἄξιός ἐστι τῇ ἀληθείᾳ πρὸς σοφίαν.
by polemistes
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Translation of the Phrase Τυγχάνει Συντελείας
Replies: 17
Views: 2306

Re: Translation of the Phrase Τυγχάνει Συντελείας

I think the translation is fine, if it's the sense you're after. The sentence is reconstructed so the English works better. There's a very minor inaccuracy in the translation which doesn't have to do with τυγχάνω συντελείας, which is that the enthusiasm doesn't "enables everyone to accomplish the im...
by polemistes
Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:27 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Eur. Hec. 540 πρευμενοῦς
Replies: 6
Views: 1148

Re: Eur. Hec. 540 πρευμενοῦς

One objection is that reading something which is not found in the manuscripts without a very good reason will lead to very poor texts in the end. Here the meaning is clear, and the repetition can be seen as a poetic device rather than a flaw. The alternating repetitions of πρ and τρ in στρατός, πρευ...
by polemistes
Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:18 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: What is the morphology of ἔνι? (a 3rd person form of ἔνειμι)
Replies: 5
Views: 1660

Re: What is the morphology of ἔνι? (a 3rd person form of ἔνε

That was an interesting question. I googled ἔνι and ἔνειμι and a discussion came up in google books from "Man and Woman, One in Christ by Philip Barton Payne: "Although grammarians generally agree on how ἔνι functions and that it is equivalent to ἔνεστι, there are two reasonable explanations of its ...
by polemistes
Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:04 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Asclepiades v.169
Replies: 45
Views: 5219

Re: Asclepiades v.169

If you take ἡδύ with ποτόν as a neutral noun in nominative and predicate to χιών, I think the sense will be clear.
by polemistes
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:41 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Translation of a Greek Sentence
Replies: 7
Views: 2404

Re: Translation of a Greek Sentence

For the whole coming of the Lord and his good presence have occurred because of this spirit, so that you can share the holy spirit with humanity and root out the effect of sin of passion and the habit coming from much preconception of evil. Some technical terms are probably translated somewhat clum...
by polemistes
Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:46 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Translation please?
Replies: 5
Views: 1650

Re: Translation please?

It could be interpreted in several ways, but I think this is the most straight forward way to take it:

"You can't be happy without work."
by polemistes
Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:23 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Online Greek Dictionary with long vowels Α Ι Υ
Replies: 16
Views: 5041

Re: Online Greek Dictionary with long vowels Α Ι Υ

In most cases LSJ gives information about vowel length if it is known, although not for case endings and such, since you can look that up in any grammar.
by polemistes
Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:10 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: What is the voice and tense of φανει here? Wasps line 530
Replies: 2
Views: 1247

Re: What is the voice and tense of φανει here? Wasps line 53

You are thinking of the expression φαίνω in passive (not middle, I think) + participle, meaning "to be manifest..." But that doesn't mean you can't use the active meaning of φαίνω "to reveal" or "to exhibit" with a participle. So "φαίνω ὤν " would be something like "I reveal that I am ..."
by polemistes
Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:01 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Is παντα an adverb or accusative here? Lysias 1.7
Replies: 4
Views: 1495

Re: Is παντα an adverb or accusative here? Lysias 1.7

Both are possible, but it doesn't make a lot of difference for the sense. I would translate "everything", since that makes better sense in English.
by polemistes
Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:37 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Herodotus 1.189 νηυσιπέρητος
Replies: 9
Views: 3215

Re: Herodotus 1.189 νηυσιπέρητος

I agree with you. TLG has 8 instances of the word (5 in Herodotus), and in all of them it seems to be used generally in the sense "difficult to cross (without a boat)".
by polemistes
Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:14 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Aristophanes Wasps, line 127 - what does ἧν mean here?
Replies: 4
Views: 1453

Re: Aristophanes Wasps, line 127 - what does ἧν mean here?

ἦν (not ἧν) is 3rd sg imperfect of εἰμί here, as you suggest. Plural neutral subjects often take the singular form of the verb. Perhaps your trouble is with the relative ὅσα (as many as...) put in the middle of the sentence: And we – as many as ἦν τετρημένα – we stuffed up ....
by polemistes
Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:02 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek word needed for "levelling device"
Replies: 5
Views: 1961

Re: Greek word needed for "levelling device"

Perhaps κανών is what you are after? You can see the dictionary definitions here:

http://logeion.uchicago.edu/index.html#κανών
by polemistes
Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:20 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Anapaests
Replies: 1
Views: 1085

Re: Anapaests

I think the rhythm sounds quite right, not comic, but perhaps a bit fast? Wasn't the anapaest a marching rhythm?
by polemistes
Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:33 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Model editions for standard line numbers in drama
Replies: 5
Views: 1993

Re: Model editions for standard line numbers in drama

Thanks for the help! Things are a bit clearer now. I'm glad to see it's not just me who finds this difficult to track down.
by polemistes
Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:38 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Model editions for standard line numbers in drama
Replies: 5
Views: 1993

Model editions for standard line numbers in drama

If I'm correct, the line numbers of modern editions of Greek drama are standardized based on one early edition. It seems to be almost impossible to find information about which editions the standards are based on. Does anyone know which editions are used? I need to know the first edition which is us...
by polemistes
Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:10 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Searching between the fields in online lexica?
Replies: 9
Views: 3343

Re: Searching between the fields in online lexica?

I can't search for ϝ anywhere in TLG.
by polemistes
Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:27 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Searching between the fields in online lexica?
Replies: 9
Views: 3343

Re: Searching between the fields in online lexica?

I get a lot of results when searching for "ii" at TLG's full corpus textual search. Of course most of the results are inflected and not dictionary forms, and you need to have access to the full corpus search to get it. I don't know if that would be useful for you? I get things like "διιπετέος", "διι...
by polemistes
Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:57 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plato, Resp. 353 b8
Replies: 1
Views: 1012

Re: Plato, Resp. 353 b8

I think imperfect is fine here. He refers back to the first example: "ἀκούσαις ἄλλῳ ἢ ὠσίν;"
by polemistes
Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:08 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Ancient Greek word question
Replies: 8
Views: 3069

Re: Ancient Greek word question

There are many words in Greek which could be translated into "generosity", and in order to choose which one to use, I would need which sense of generosity you mean. Generosity is derived from Latin, but in Latin the main sense is to be of noble birth, and the sense used in modern English is taken fr...
by polemistes
Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:55 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Aristophanes' Frogs line 34 - queries
Replies: 1
Views: 1291

Re: Aristophanes' Frogs line 34 - queries

1) τἄν is τοι ἄν.
2) It is an unreal conditional with unexpressed protasis "If I had" and the apodosis with ἄν + aorist or imperfect indicative. (If I had ... then I would ... [but it never happened]).
by polemistes
Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:53 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Can anyone identify a Greek poetic meter?
Replies: 29
Views: 15816

Re: Can anyone identify a Greek poetic meter?

σφριγάω is in my LSJ. Look again and tell if it's not in yours.
by polemistes
Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:27 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Speaker identifications in Plato
Replies: 5
Views: 2910

Re: Speaker identifications in Plato

Just a small comment regarding comparing Platonic dialogues to drama. The original texts of the dramas did also not include any indications of speakers, so they were actually very similar to the dialogues in form. The main difference is that drama is in metre and dialogues are in prose.
by polemistes
Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:00 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: About Lingual Mute Stem Consonant Declension Nouns
Replies: 6
Views: 2763

Re: About Lingual Mute Stem Consonant Declension Nouns

According to Smyth 242 the 3rd declension masculine and feminine stems in ν, ρ and σ reject ς and the preceding vowel is lengthened if it is short.

Edit: And Smyth 243 also mentions that masculine stems in οντ drop the τ, and I guess then also reject the ς, and lengthens the ο to ω.
by polemistes
Wed May 24, 2017 8:42 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Regarding verbs that are supposedly labial, palatal, lingual
Replies: 6
Views: 3056

Re: Regarding verbs that are supposedly labial, palatal, lin

You have to learn Greek to do that, and learn it very well. Your example sentence is not very complex, but there are many things you need to know in order to form it in Greek, and being able to decline and conjugate words correctly is not even scratching the surface of it. You need to know that opta...