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by Sofronios
Sun May 12, 2019 9:23 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: poetic verses amaze me
Replies: 3
Views: 676

poetic verses amaze me

Im not sure where I should put the post for a reason that this post is a rant rather than an inquiry of both languages Ive been doing some basic latin and greek for a while, the material I am choosing are orberg LLPSI and the JACT reading greek. I am trying to do at least a chapter a day but with LL...
by Sofronios
Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:06 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Modern Greek Translations of the Bible/New Testament
Replies: 6
Views: 1625

Re: Modern Greek Translations of the Bible/New Testament

interesting question.. since no one answering.. most Greek I met, do not read a bible if there happen to be the most religious of them, there is a great chance that he uses the original (PT1904) why? if you ask a Greek mind you'll get as follows why would we need another Greek of this very Greek wri...
by Sofronios
Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:22 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Fabulae Syrae Ceres er Proserpina
Replies: 4
Views: 1202

Re: Fabulae Syrae Ceres er Proserpina

Sophronius I was really frustrated with Fabulae Syrae, so justin slocum bailey suggested that I read "Fabulae Faciles" by Ritchie. There is heaps of help available for this book, and sentences are not near as confusing, and maybe Epitome Historiae Sacrae after that. And just keep reading books at t...
by Sofronios
Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:23 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Fabulae Syrae Ceres er Proserpina
Replies: 4
Views: 1202

Fabulae Syrae Ceres er Proserpina

again.. still strugling with Miraglia. I think that I somehow cant proceed in my basic Latin study if I cant pass this level on the book page 41 line 22 tum "Mi Iuppitter" inquit, "tua quoque filia proserpina est; ecce, tandem, postquam diu quaesivi, eam repperi: si 'reperire' vocas, 'scire ubi sit'...
by Sofronios
Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:15 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Fabula syrae Orpheus et Eurydicē
Replies: 1
Views: 1108

Fabula syrae Orpheus et Eurydicē

and again, my other attempt to digest Miraglia's this time the miserable, heartbreaking and horror story of orpheus and his undead lover. 1 Orpheus nobilissimus fidicen atque poeta egregius fuit, qui inde ā puerō tam pulchrē canebat, ut non solum bestiae ferae ad eum accurerent,.... how to render un...
by Sofronios
Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: fabula syrae pygmalion
Replies: 2
Views: 1198

Re: fabula syrae pygmalion

thx you for the explanation
by Sofronios
Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:56 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: fabula syrae pygmalion
Replies: 2
Views: 1198

fabula syrae pygmalion

still struggling with orberg material now I have reach the chapter that can be read in conjuction with fabula syriae just reading the first of the stories made me realize about another level of latin the first story about Pygmalion line 3-4 Feminas verō, quas superbas esse putabat, nullas amabat to ...
by Sofronios
Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:03 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: 3rd declension noun gen pl ending in -ium/-um
Replies: 1
Views: 1050

3rd declension noun gen pl ending in -ium/-um

salvete! still struggling with my basic latin this question came to mind when I am trying to complete a Latin sentence, and in the near immediate future I think I will be doing Latin composition. how do we differentiate 3rd decelnsion noun with genitive plural ending in just -um or in -ium? The text...
by Sofronios
Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:25 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Free Online Textbook -- Ancient Greek for Everyone
Replies: 7
Views: 3706

Re: Free Online Textbook -- Ancient Greek for Everyone

just read the first pages.. it teaches the -μι verbs as introductions.. curious to read the rest..
I wonder if the same site gives Latin textbook also
by Sofronios
Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:47 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: orberg LLPSI capitulum XXIV line 105
Replies: 2
Views: 1631

Re: orberg LLPSI capitulum XXIV line 105

ah thats what I missed.. thank you for the help
by Sofronios
Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:52 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: orberg LLPSI capitulum XXIV line 105
Replies: 2
Views: 1631

orberg LLPSI capitulum XXIV line 105

this is my another question (and I think wont be the last one) to ask about orberg LLPSI this is from capitulum XXIV line 105 Cēterum facile tibi est fratrem tuum reprehendere, dum ipse hīc in mollī lectulō cubās. I have three question here 1. what is the function of facile in the 1st clause? is it ...
by Sofronios
Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:37 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: what does eī refer to? orberg text
Replies: 7
Views: 2983

Re: what does eī refer to? orberg text

Hm, if we should label this usage of the dative, I would definitely go with dative of reference . Dative of possession refers to constructions such as "mihi est frater", but that is not what we are dealing with here. But, in any case, whatever we call it, to understand the usage here I would concen...
by Sofronios
Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:14 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: what does eī refer to? orberg text
Replies: 7
Views: 2983

what does eī refer to? orberg text

I have been doing Orberg text for a while, that I almost read it unconsciously in my spare time... as I am slogging through the text, I get more and more familiar with the text but at the same time I get this 'foggy' feeling that there are things that I still can not fully grasp about the language n...
by Sofronios
Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:45 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Where to go from here
Replies: 6
Views: 3985

Re: Where to go from here

biblical studies?

how about a detour to classical greek material that focus on reading like JACT or Athenaze?
the NT and Septuagint would be easier after much exposure to the classical reading so they say
by Sofronios
Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:37 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: greek core vocab
Replies: 2
Views: 1918

greek core vocab

Ive just found this site.. http://dcc.dickinson.edu/greek-core-list the reason is stated here "The main point of core vocabulary lists such as these is to help prioritize the learning of vocabulary. Assuming the goal is to read extant Greek and Latin texts, one should learn these words first. The li...
by Sofronios
Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:27 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: The Greek Dialects: Where to Start
Replies: 8
Views: 24248

Re: The Greek Dialects: Where to Start

i wish I could start a new.. with all respect.. starting from koine greek make my greek seems so simple... I could read NT prose quite well with lexicon but perplexed with the older dialect...
by Sofronios
Tue May 23, 2017 10:53 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: need help Fabula Syrae Atalanta
Replies: 5
Views: 3555

Re: need help Fabula Syrae Atalanta

thank you for the so clear explanation
and yes I am not native english speaker,
and the concept of encoding time into verb form is still foreign to me..
even after so many years learn english...
but now I understand better the passage
by Sofronios
Tue May 23, 2017 4:41 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: need help Fabula Syrae Atalanta
Replies: 5
Views: 3555

Re: need help Fabula Syrae Atalanta

1. cīvēs vērō et ipse atalantae pater

cursūs quī solēbant fierī

poscēbant

2. neque moram

patiēbantur

1.even the country folks and atalanta's father himself demanded the running that they usually did
is cursūs the object of poscēbat?

2. not even they experience/suffer delay

am I correct?
by Sofronios
Tue May 23, 2017 2:57 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: need help Fabula Syrae Atalanta
Replies: 5
Views: 3555

need help Fabula Syrae Atalanta

I cant follow the gist of this passage
Ad capitulum XXVIII 1.Atalanta
10th paragraph
cīvēs vērō et ipse atalantae pater cursūs quī solēbant fierī poscēbant, neque moram patiēbantur
It seems like a jigsaw puzzle to me..
thank you in advance
by Sofronios
Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:04 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: cap XV Julia
Replies: 1
Views: 1376

cap XV Julia

this is a passage from Julia by Reed cap XV almost to the last sentence, a direct statement of Mars to his son Romulus Satis...in terrīs regnāvisti; nunc in caelō et in stellīs cum patre tuō cēterīsque dīs regnābis. I am confuse with the adjective dīs in this sentence. which noun does it modify? can...
by Sofronios
Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:37 am
Forum: Greek Textbooks and Study Groups
Topic: Favorite Greek Textbooks?
Replies: 13
Views: 9760

Re: Favorite Greek Textbooks?

JACT.. wont be bad.. long sentence, repetitive.. yes we need that.. not flawless but still many advantages..
use mastronarde if you can follow him, I cant.. greek is not for the dumb they say
by Sofronios
Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:16 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: δῶρον τῆς ἑορτῆς τῆς Χριστουγέννας (ὃ ἐποίησε bedwere)
Replies: 3
Views: 2977

Re: δῶρον τῆς ἑορτῆς τῆς Χριστουγέννας (ὃ ἐποίησε bedwere)

I wish I could read the story..
seems my vocab and grammar is far from suffice
still long journey for me..
by Sofronios
Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:49 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: questions LL Cap XX
Replies: 2
Views: 1744

Re: questions LL Cap XX

Sofronios, I'm no master, but here's what I see. I don't have my copy of LL on hand, so I'm going by what you've entered. I think that ei is a dative referring to the child. So I'd write: If the mother herself is not able or willing to suckle the infant, the infant is suckled by another woman, who ...
by Sofronios
Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:03 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: questions LL Cap XX
Replies: 2
Views: 1744

questions LL Cap XX

please allow me to correct my understanding of these two passages this is from Lingua Latina Capitulum XX Sī māter īnfantem suum ipsa alere nōn potest sīve nōn vult, īnfans ab aliā muliere alitur, quae eī in locō mātris est. line 12 if dative + est shows possession then we can read the last clause a...
by Sofronios
Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:30 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: optative in John13:24
Replies: 8
Views: 4226

Re: optative in John13:24

@mwh basically optative can serve as polite request or questions, right? it really escapes my notice.. thank you for the explanations.. @jeidsath and bartholomew ah westcorthort.. one of the big names, is he not? my thought just wondering for a while to those scholars who really dig into the actual ...
by Sofronios
Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:19 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: optative in John13:24
Replies: 8
Views: 4226

optative in John13:24

been doing johanine text for awhile.. ppl tend to say that it is one of the simplest greek text out there that I agree somehow(but not with the subject matter that is not that simple) this is my third times reading the whole St John gospel and if I am allowed to boast, the more I read the more I bec...
by Sofronios
Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:42 am
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: Is Caesar "Boring"?
Replies: 12
Views: 10462

Re: Is Caesar "Boring"?

as a beginning classic-lover, my short term aim is to be able to read Caesar and Xenophon while sitting on a couch somewhere in the suburban coffeeshop, or while riding a train/bus on a trip.. I will be alone doing that, as the languages are incomprehensible to the rest of my country-folk... ah neve...
by Sofronios
Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:26 am
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: how the latins tell other ppl
Replies: 8
Views: 4692

Re: how the latins tell other ppl

To be clear, that part of my post is conjecture based on thinking I did years ago, when I couldn't afford internet and the only information I had was from the newspaper and the local library. I could be greatly mistaken. About religion (this is from an old professor of mine so it's more reliable): ...
by Sofronios
Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:47 am
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: how the latins tell other ppl
Replies: 8
Views: 4692

Re: how the latins tell other ppl

This is so interesting.. how this instinct encoded as part of our humane survival, if it is put on the extreme level it will be excalated as the term 'racism'. the Serbs are Orthodox and the Croats are Catholics, while the Bosnians are Moslems, It is very likely the Romans also classified people on ...
by Sofronios
Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:37 am
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: how the latins tell other ppl
Replies: 8
Views: 4692

how the latins tell other ppl

I always wonder how the romans, especially the latins, differentiate other people of ethnicity.. even though I myself believe that etnicity or nationality does not mean anything, but if allowed to be curious, approaching a people with a fairer skin than me I will ask whether he is from europe/ ameri...
by Sofronios
Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:38 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: What is ἐπίκλητος ἁγία?
Replies: 8
Views: 3979

Re: What is ἐπίκλητος ἁγία?

sry if this is out of topic, but if so strong is the hebraism that reside in LXX, would knowledge of hebrew is more unlocking to the text or ancient greek in general or both?
by Sofronios
Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:17 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Recently started, many questions
Replies: 27
Views: 12907

Re: Recently started, many questions

I cant help myself, how I become a fan of Lingua Latina by Orberg? I wish there exist an attic greek primer like that one one that my venerated JACT reading greek fail to reach better than the confusing Matronarde nowhere as dim as wheelock feel free to disagree with me dear fellow I'll take it :D b...
by Sofronios
Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:33 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Anyone here fluent in Greek, Hebrew, and (optionally) Latin?
Replies: 8
Views: 3760

Re: Anyone here fluent in Greek, Hebrew, and (optionally) La

HI! seems that Latin is at your optional list, but I think, as I read somewhere in this forum, old and cheap Greek book assumes you know latin. I myself a beginner of both languages, and attempt to learn hebrew as well. if there is only one book you ever ponder to buy, why dont you try lingua latina...
by Sofronios
Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:44 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: BADG vs BDAG vs LSJ
Replies: 8
Views: 5088

Re: BADG vs BDAG vs LSJ

DavidHatesChemo wrote:I did finally save up and got 3rd edition of BDAG. The lower case rho looks like a "Q", where does that come from?
well, I dont have that problem I think, because mine the 2nd edition
maybe other can help?
by Sofronios
Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:49 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The Psalms in the Septuagint and Εἰς τὸ τέλος
Replies: 6
Views: 3519

Re: The Psalms in the Septuagint and Εἰς τὸ τέλος

Timothée wrote:... I don't share his view, as in actual fact it in many places offers good suggestions how to interpret the Hebrew original or, forsooth, how the text originally looked like...
and for those of us who dont even know a single hebrew word :)
by Sofronios
Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:41 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: An Easter treat
Replies: 2
Views: 2219

Re: An Easter treat

Ἀληθῶς ἀνέστη!

a late reply :D
by Sofronios
Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:00 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: ὃς δι’ ἂν?
Replies: 13
Views: 6377

Re: ὃς δι’ ἂν?

Is it really the Gk.Orthodox reading?!? It’s quite nonsensical (your interpretation won’t work Joel), and is obviously a mistake for δ’ἄν. So too in the Cyril, at least in the 2nd passage. (I don’t get the first.) ὃς δ' ἂν on this Greek Orthodox site http://www.myriobiblos.gr/bible/nt2/john/4.asp T...
by Sofronios
Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:44 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Basics of Biblical Greek
Replies: 5
Views: 3158

Re: Basics of Biblical Greek

I cut my teeth on Greek with Mounce.. his books really help
and I wouldnt dare to say that I can of much help because Im also a begginer,
but many experts here that I believe can give their opinions to aid you
:D
by Sofronios
Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:39 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: ὃς δι’ ἂν?
Replies: 13
Views: 6377

ὃς δι’ ἂν?

I do not know whether this phrases is just a trivial or not a difference at all from John 4:14 ὃς δι’ ἂν πίῃ ἐκ τοῦ ὕδατος οὗ ἐγὼ δώσω αὐτῷ, (PT) ὃς δʼ ἂν πίῃ ἐκ τοῦ ὕδατος οὗ ἐγὼ δώσω αὐτῷ, (UBS) I can read the second line for it is perfectly make sense, but whoever drink from the water that I will...
by Sofronios
Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:48 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Greek New Testament College Courses on YouTube
Replies: 6
Views: 4941

Re: Complete College Courses on YouTube

looking forward to see how they present the verb forms..
thx for posting