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by naturalphilosopher
Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:03 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Koller's Orbis Pictus Latinus
Replies: 5
Views: 1215

Koller's Orbis Pictus Latinus

I recently stumbled across this in a university library. It's a pictorial dictionary of latin. I never heard of it before, but it looks like it would mesh well with Orberg's LLPSI. Even the style of illustration looks similar.
by naturalphilosopher
Fri May 25, 2018 5:04 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Choosing my resources [Beginner]
Replies: 4
Views: 1322

Re: Choosing my resources [Beginner]

[*] Latin: An Intensive Course, Moreland and Fleisher - This packs a lot into one chapter, which makes it tough going for an autodidact. In its favor, the vocabularies are in neat columns, enabling you to quiz yourself by covering a column up with a slip of paper. Explanations are clear. Answer keys...
by naturalphilosopher
Fri May 26, 2017 1:43 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Krashen and Ancient Greek teaching methods
Replies: 48
Views: 24938

Re: Krashen and Ancient Greek teaching methods

As an example of comprehensible input in the style of Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata, at http://www.culturaclasica.com/lingualatina/linguagraeca.htm you'll find ALEXANDROS. The google translation of the page renders the spanish well, but the preview can be reached from the spanish link above. The b...
by naturalphilosopher
Mon May 15, 2017 5:06 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Clyde Pharr's Aeneid I-VI
Replies: 5
Views: 5597

Re: Clyde Pharr's Aeneid I-VI

The general rule is that things published after 1923 are likely still in copyright in the US. Pharr's Aeneid is available fairly cheap and it has a fold-out word list that won't be usable in a PDF. It's best to just buy a copy if you need it.
by naturalphilosopher
Sat May 06, 2017 2:15 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: not really about Stephen Krashen at all
Replies: 38
Views: 24674

Re: Stephen Krashen

Krashen's approach isn't the holy grail, but it isn't bad either. Otherwise, Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata would not be a perennial favourite of Latin learners. Go find some graded readers. Thrasymachus, Reading Greek, and Athenaze are well known. For my own use, I've acquired James Turney Allen's...
by naturalphilosopher
Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: First time Reading Ancient Texts
Replies: 4
Views: 2029

Re: First time Reading Ancient Texts

You might like Bellum Helveticum , which is a beginner textbook that uses readings from Caesar from the fist lesson. I found it when I was also looking for an early intro to ancient authors which I could use in parallel with Lingua Latina. See the links in my thread on the topic - http://www.textkit...
by naturalphilosopher
Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:22 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Richard John Cunliffe Biography
Replies: 7
Views: 4679

Re: Richard John Cunliffe Biography

A google scholar search turns up nothing. I'd expect that one of the classical studies journals would have run an obituary for him.
by naturalphilosopher
Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:16 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Beginner Books with Early Unadapted Ancient Readings
Replies: 1
Views: 1401

Re: Beginner Books with Early Unadapted Ancient Readings

I stumbled upon another one. Method For The Study Of Latin With Interlinear Translations by Thomas Clark, 1857. This is sort of like the old Hamiltonian interlinears, except that it gives the interlinear first with a more English word order, then repeats with Latin word order. It also includes exerc...
by naturalphilosopher
Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:27 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Beginner Books with Early Unadapted Ancient Readings
Replies: 1
Views: 1401

Beginner Books with Early Unadapted Ancient Readings

Texts like Moreland & Fleischer, Learn to Read Latin, and Self-Education in Latin make use of unadapted readings as one gets past the early chapters. However, I've made it a point to seek out texts that introduce unadapted ancient readings early (preferably lesson 1). Those that I've found all make ...
by naturalphilosopher
Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:37 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: I don't know where to go now...
Replies: 6
Views: 3142

Re: I don't know where to go now...

I have tried reading the Loeb version of Anabasis and it's impossibly difficult. ... Does anyone know of anything that is more difficult than toy textbook phrases, but not crazy difficult? thank you for reading about my woes. If it's the Anabasis you want, you may want a look at Harper's Inductive ...
by naturalphilosopher
Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:40 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Sidgwick's First Greek Writer useful with what?
Replies: 7
Views: 3477

Re: Sidgwick's First Greek Writer useful with what?

I've actually suggested and reviewed several materials in other threads. Even suggested some good Greek Anthologies for beginners and a couple of composition books with an answer key that are far more user friendly than Sidgwick. Long story short. I recommend a combination of Zuntz's Griechischer L...
by naturalphilosopher
Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:36 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How do you pronounce your Latin?
Replies: 20
Views: 10255

Re: How do you pronounce your Latin?

you have to use classical pronunciation with classical poetry or it's ruined. You can certainly get more out of classical pronunciation done well. On the other hand, samples of Virgil recited in ecclesiastical pronunciation by Mario Pei seem to capture a lot more poetic rhythm and ruin it less to m...
by naturalphilosopher
Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:44 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Anyone have any anki sets for Roma Aeterna can make public?
Replies: 3
Views: 1930

Re: Anyone have any anki sets for Roma Aeterna can make publ

I don't mean to sound glib, but I've found I learn a great deal more by building my own Anki decks than I do in using them. You may find the same. There is a lot of truth in what you say, especially if you are writing out traditional flashcards by hand. However, the bother of entering flashcard con...
by naturalphilosopher
Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:55 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Sidgwick's First Greek Writer useful with what?
Replies: 7
Views: 3477

Re: Sidgwick's First Greek Writer useful with what?

With "texts" do you mean "reading texts"? What other "texts" have you considered? I feel that to really learn Greek, I need to absorb the language with an active component. I've collected several greek texts. Some, like Crosby and Schaeffer, seem to have adequate exercises and a key, though I think...
by naturalphilosopher
Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:18 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Sidgwick's First Greek Writer useful with what?
Replies: 7
Views: 3477

Sidgwick's First Greek Writer useful with what?

Sidgwick's First Greek Writer looks like a fantastic way to start composition while still an absolute beginner. However, most texts I've considered seem to use a quite different order of presentation for grammar. Are there any texts that work well with this old classic?
by naturalphilosopher
Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:30 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Anyone have any anki sets for Roma Aeterna can make public?
Replies: 3
Views: 1930

Re: Anyone have any anki sets for Roma Aeterna can make publ

I've used mnemosyne instead of anki, but most SRS programs can make use of tab delimited files. Cram can export tab delimited files which you can them import into an SRS. I found these after a quick search. http://www.cram.com/flashcards/lingua-latina-roma-aeterna-cap-xxxvi-2033910 http://www.cram.c...
by naturalphilosopher
Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:02 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: What advanced Latin grammars or textbooks are available?
Replies: 4
Views: 2449

Re: What advanced Latin grammars or textbooks are available?

Wheelock has its own follow up reader which may interest you. Some like to use Orberg's Lingua Latina series as a way to quickly build vocabulary and reading speed after a book like Wheelock. You might also like some of Geoffrey Steadman's readers available at https://geoffreysteadman.com/. Clyde Ph...
by naturalphilosopher
Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:12 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Finished Pharr -> need a basic reader...
Replies: 5
Views: 2669

Re: Finished Pharr -> need a basic reader...

Pharr himself suggested several options to follow up his text. Those that stand out in my mind are:
* Read more Homer.
* Read some Hesiod.
* Read Herodotus.
Of particular interest (to me) is "Selections from Herodotus" by Barbour, which was explicitly intended to be used after Pharr.
by naturalphilosopher
Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:09 am
Forum: Latin For Beginners by D'Ooge
Topic: D'ooge level
Replies: 5
Views: 5354

Re: D'ooge level

Extra reading material wouldn't hurt. The 3 readers in the NewLatin Primer series were meant to be used concurrently and I think they go well with D'Ooge. https://archive.org/details/MN40039ucmf_6 https://archive.org/details/ANewLatinPrimer https://vivariumnovum.it/edizioni/libri/dominio-pubblico/Fa...
by naturalphilosopher
Wed May 04, 2016 2:58 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: two new learners - ancient and koine
Replies: 10
Views: 3430

Re: two new learners - ancient and koine

You may want to look into Beginning Greek: A Functional Approach by Stephen Paine. This is a book that teaches both Koine and Attic, beginning with the Gospel of John and moving on to the Anabasis in later chapters.
by naturalphilosopher
Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:16 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is there any easy Latin literature I can read yet?
Replies: 4
Views: 2022

Re: Is there any easy Latin literature I can read yet?

There are texts which aim to get an absolute beginner reading Caesar, albeit in small doses. You may wish to check out The Inductive Latin Primer - http://books.google.com/books/about/An_Inductive_Latin_Primer.html?id=o64AAAAAYAAJ, The Inductive Latin Method - http://books.google.com/books?id=lq0AAA...
by naturalphilosopher
Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:38 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Learning Latin with Audiobooks
Replies: 14
Views: 9539

Re: Learning Latin with Audiobooks

Evan has an audio version of Cornelia, which is a fairly simple reader.
by naturalphilosopher
Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:07 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Learning Latin with Audiobooks
Replies: 14
Views: 9539

Re: Learning Latin with Audiobooks

Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata has corresponding audio recordings available in either pronunciation for download from amazon.
by naturalphilosopher
Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:03 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Second Edition of "Reading Latin"
Replies: 1
Views: 2272

Re: Second Edition of "Reading Latin"

It looks like they have been postponed until January of 2016. The new independent study guide (isbn 1107615607) won't be released until May.
by naturalphilosopher
Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:59 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Materials for reading Herodotus
Replies: 38
Views: 26259

Re: Materials for reading Herodotus

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Amy Barbour's Selections from Herodotus, which is aimed at those who have a Homeric background.
by naturalphilosopher
Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:31 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin Beginner/Children Audiobooks?
Replies: 16
Views: 7245

Re: Latin Beginner/Children Audiobooks?

Multas gratias! Bedware.
by naturalphilosopher
Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:45 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin Beginner/Children Audiobooks?
Replies: 16
Views: 7245

Re: Latin Beginner/Children Audiobooks?

Later in life I learned it as a living language using this excellent course, which uses the Ecclesiastical pronunciation: Cursus Linguae Latinae Vivae (description in English ) It comes with almost 20 hours of Latin recordings, from the ground up. The author, Fr. Suitbert Seidl, O.C.D., was an Aust...
by naturalphilosopher
Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:33 am
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: wheelock 3RD edition
Replies: 1
Views: 5354

Re: wheelock 3RD edition

The 3rd edition has a cleaner format. It hasn't been crowded with irrelevent pictures and other distractions from the content. It also suffers less from political correctness, although the exclusion of Caesar could be taken as an earlier form of political correctness. On the other hand, the newer ed...
by naturalphilosopher
Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:07 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Evangeline before Virgil
Replies: 1
Views: 1119

Evangeline before Virgil

I have a way to go with LLPSI before I'll be ready for Virgil. Since the hexameter of Virgil (or Homer, for that matter) takes some getting used to for a native english speaker, I've begun using Longfellow's Evangeline, A Tale of Acadie , the most widely read english epic in dactylic hexameter, as a...
by naturalphilosopher
Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:58 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Monolingual Learning Resources ala Lingua Latina
Replies: 14
Views: 11821

Re: Monolingual Learning Resources ala Lingua Latina

The internet archive has Initium: a first Latin course on the direct method by Appleton and Jones. It is mostly monolingual. Also, you may want to check out the Palaestra materials by Avellanus.
by naturalphilosopher
Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:25 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Salvete
Replies: 0
Views: 721

Salvete

Hello all, I've recently started trying to relearn the latin I had in high school, mainly using the older "Teach Yourself Latin" by W.A. Edward as revised by F. Kinchin Smith. The original, Self Education in Latin, is in some ways better but using a real book instead of a pdf from the internet archi...
by naturalphilosopher
Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:27 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ambiguous Sentence in Teach yourself Latin
Replies: 0
Views: 698

Ambiguous Sentence in Teach yourself Latin

In Teach Yourself Latin, revised by F. Kinchin Smith, lesson 2, exercise 5, I find this sentence: "Cum incolis insulae pugnas, atque ferocia et ira flagras." The answer key gives, "With the inhabitants of the island you are fighting, and you are blazing with boldness and anger." This is the same as ...
by naturalphilosopher
Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:34 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Transitioning Between Dialects
Replies: 0
Views: 419

Transitioning Between Dialects

After I get my Latin to a satisfactory level, I'm considering learning Greek. Both Homer and the Attic authors interest me. As I read many of the forum posts, I notice that learning Homeric Greek 1st with texts such as Pharr is often recomended. A minority advocate starting with Attic Greek. I'll sh...