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by A.A.I
Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:26 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: When to use -que, et, ac or atque
Replies: 5
Views: 3519

Re: When to use -que, et, ac or atque

'ac' = 'atque' before vowels?
by A.A.I
Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:11 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: What suffix to add?
Replies: 15
Views: 6719

Re: What suffix to add?

龙江; pinyin: Lóngjiāng; literally "Dragon River"

Seems that the English is wrong. Still, we can imagine that it's the 'Long River' and still work out how to use it.
by A.A.I
Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:55 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronun.: cal(l)idus
Replies: 45
Views: 13200

Re: pronun.: cal(l)idus

A few days with patchy internet... grr... Godmy, Thank you for taking the time to reply to my long post! Sorry for not having learned how to use the forum properly. - At the moment, I'm feeling pretty confident with vowel length. Working that all in on the sentence level is something I'm experimenti...
by A.A.I
Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:14 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronun.: cal(l)idus
Replies: 45
Views: 13200

Re: pronun.: cal(l)idus

ooh, further responses!

Just woke up, replying now wouldn't make much sense.

(EDIT: After up fully, I realised how much there was to do... Trying againt today!)
by A.A.I
Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:30 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronun.: cal(l)idus
Replies: 45
Views: 13200

Re: pronun.: cal(l)idus

Godmy, I've seen your thread and I have all of the books in the series (that I'm aware of). My learning of Latin only started recently but the desire to do so, and collection of resources in perparation for it, have not. Your pronunciation seems very polished to me, however, as you're likely aware o...
by A.A.I
Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:54 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronun.: cal(l)idus
Replies: 45
Views: 13200

Re: pronun.: cal(l)idus

Thanks for your very detailed information. It's all very helpful, Qimmik. I'm just trying to tease out all of the pronunciation information that I can. I'm a singer/musician and I get a lot of pleasure from the sounds of languages. What I'm trying to create is a consistent system for myself so that ...
by A.A.I
Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:25 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronun.: cal(l)idus
Replies: 45
Views: 13200

Re: pronun.: cal(l)idus

Not confusing but I'm not sure if it helps any, since there isn't much to be "done" about it! haha Although I don't know anything about the metres of poetry, I can grasp the idea that they must fit into certain patterns (or be made to fit?). Is it that these words simply don't appear in the poetry? ...
by A.A.I
Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:53 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronun.: cal(l)idus
Replies: 45
Views: 13200

Re: pronun.: cal(l)idus

Urgh, this all seems too difficult. I saw 'nōn' early on in my studies and then saw 'nonne'. Ok, I thought, I can handle that change. But then I came across 'nōnne'. Perhaps, when you have the time and desire, you could record these words: annus ānus anus (+ gen anūs) annuus How about the choice? We...
by A.A.I
Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:39 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poll: Long and short syllables
Replies: 23
Views: 10030

Re: Poll: Long and short syllables

How does one discover what vowel length might have been? No reference work seems to be reliable as the experts disagree at times.

stella or stēlla? magna or māgna? (just a couple of examples)
by A.A.I
Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:16 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronun.: cal(l)idus
Replies: 45
Views: 13200

Re: pronun.: cal(l)idus

I'm just not understanding "double consonants", it seems. Thought I had it down pretty well but now I just can't seem to separate the vowel length. short V + long C / long V + long C, just end up sounding identical. I don't have a list of minimal pairs but I'd love to see such a list recorded. (Tryi...
by A.A.I
Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:43 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronun.: cal(l)idus
Replies: 45
Views: 13200

Re: pronun.: cal(l)idus

Edited my post after you quoted. :)
by A.A.I
Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:25 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronun.: cal(l)idus
Replies: 45
Views: 13200

Re: pronun.: cal(l)idus

In the Italian, there doesn't seem to be the same distinctions as in Latin. I'm hearing long V + single C and short V preceding the doubles - except some seems to stand out more (ss, nn, perhaps others). /ˈpaːla/ and /ˈpalːa/ We need this: short V + single C short V + long C long V + single C long V...
by A.A.I
Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:53 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronun.: cal(l)idus
Replies: 45
Views: 13200

Re: pronun.: cal(l)idus

I'm thinking that the Italian vowel length influences the consonant length.

What seems difficult now is a the distinction of long vs short vowels before a double consonant.
by A.A.I
Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poll: Long and short syllables
Replies: 23
Views: 10030

Re: Poll: Long and short syllables

Godmy, I didn't take the poll to be validation. Vowel length isn't something weird, you're right. I've not yet met/interacted with any Latinists. I'm talking about the audio resources and videos I've seen. A lot of smart people with bad pronunciation. Voice chat is a nice thing - perhaps for another...
by A.A.I
Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:04 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poll: Long and short syllables
Replies: 23
Views: 10030

Re: Poll: Long and short syllables

Godmy, I've been told my whole life to 'get over' being curious, asking questions and discussing such things. Well, I'm glad I didn't listen to those people who deemed my questions to be too stupid or obvious. The poll itself asked: "When you pronounce latin, do you try to spend twice as long on the...
by A.A.I
Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:42 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronun.: cal(l)idus
Replies: 45
Views: 13200

Re: pronun.: cal(l)idus

I found a video with an Italian reading minimal pairs from Italian. (Not in the context of speech, but useful.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-r_l5vgBoY
by A.A.I
Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:44 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poll: Long and short syllables
Replies: 23
Views: 10030

Re: Poll: Long and short syllables

For those worrying about vowel lengths sounding natural: read aloud. Read with short and long vowels and see how that works in practice. A good rhythm will develop. Try not to sound too Italian, Spanish or something. :p
by A.A.I
Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:21 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin Mathematics
Replies: 8
Views: 3457

Re: Latin Mathematics

Very nice, Bedwere! Thanks for that.

Now... I'm wondering what the difference is between 'mathesis' and 'mathematica'.
by A.A.I
Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:13 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Correcting Adler's Key to his "Practical Gramma
Replies: 24
Views: 15287

Re: Correcting Adler's Key to his "Practical Gramma

(I don't want to interrupt the thread but I want to say that I appreciate this effort. Really good work, guys. Can't wait to see more of it!)
by A.A.I
Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:09 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Clarification of issues within Avellanus' Palaestra
Replies: 3
Views: 1801

Re: Clarification of issues within Avellanus' Palaestra

The book displays those objects (groups of points, squares, circles, lines, etc) and then asks questions and makes statement about them. I think 'est' is used because it's asking about those specific ones. But perhaps 'est' is still quite ok for a general statement/question? For the second one, I th...
by A.A.I
Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:03 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Clarification of issues within Avellanus' Palaestra
Replies: 3
Views: 1801

Re: Clarification of issues within Avellanus' Palaestra

Anyone? Have I missed something in writing up the first post?
by A.A.I
Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:38 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Clarification of issues within Avellanus' Palaestra
Replies: 3
Views: 1801

Clarification of issues within Avellanus' Palaestra

Lately, I've been looking at this book and I have some sentences or words which I'm not always sure about. If I write about them here, perhaps some kind soul will give me some hints. (Using the larger and later text: https://archive.org/details/palaestrabeingpr12avel) 1. exercitium scribendi 7 (page...
by A.A.I
Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:52 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: LLPSI readers list
Replies: 5
Views: 3848

Re: LLPSI readers list

Vita moresque by Luigi Miraglia should be one too.

And what are these 'Latine disco' books? Anybody picked them up?
by A.A.I
Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:40 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: LLPSI readers list
Replies: 5
Views: 3848

Re: LLPSI readers list

I've come across some of these new books simply by chance or by word-of-mouth. There are many supplements but I'm always finding new ones. Off the top of my head, there are: LL1 LL2 Colloquial personarum Fabulae Syrae Fabellae Latinae Epitome Historiae Sacrae Sermones Romani Cena Trimalchionis Amphi...
by A.A.I
Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:28 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: "olim" et "quondam"
Replies: 5
Views: 3483

Re: "olim" et "quondam"

I probably would have said otherwise if I'd known any better. :)
by A.A.I
Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:30 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Book-holder-opener?
Replies: 5
Views: 2823

Re: Book-holder-opener?

I sometimes use a small music stand. Take the book off and turn the page, place it back. Turning while in the vicinity of clips and whatever might stop you and tear pages. We don't want that...
by A.A.I
Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:48 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin for toddlers
Replies: 6
Views: 3512

Re: Latin for toddlers

Something important to note is that language transmission is always imperfect. If the argument is against passing on an imperfect Latin: we couldn't easily avoid that being even if we were native speakers. Of course, it could be much worse if one tries to pass on Latin which is of a poor level. That...
by A.A.I
Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:00 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: "olim" et "quondam"
Replies: 5
Views: 3483

Re: "olim" et "quondam"

Quimmik, thanks for that link.
by A.A.I
Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:04 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: "olim" et "quondam"
Replies: 5
Views: 3483

Re: "olim" et "quondam"

So, this is what I'm getting: olim - at that time, some time ago, once upon a time, once, formerly, of old, "one day" quondam - at some time, at one time, once, heretofore, formerly, on a time olim seems to be more specific but also has a future sense. quondam doesn't seem to do that at all. I can't...
by A.A.I
Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:51 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Gathering together Monolingual Latin Resources
Replies: 4
Views: 2833

Re: Gathering together Monolingual Latin Resources

Hey there, I'm in roughly the same situation as you. I'm restarting Latin after not being able to study for some months - after I'd only been at it for a short time. Well, time to get back with things! Over this time, however, I've been collecting materials. So far, that's quite a lot but I'm sure t...
by A.A.I
Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:45 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Salvete - Xhairete
Replies: 1
Views: 1418

Re: Salvete - Xhairete

Welcome!

I hope you enjoy being here and enjoy the languages.
by A.A.I
Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:48 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: 'nec ipse praesens.....'
Replies: 9
Views: 3679

Re: 'nec ipse praesens.....'

It's above my low level but my idiomatic version, based on what you guys are saying, goes something like this: I haven't learned of anything that's been going on in Rome because I haven't been there and haven't had any letters (at all / from Rome / or possible letters from Rome but without any news ...
by A.A.I
Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:27 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: LLPSI Familia Romana - alternative AUDIO recordings
Replies: 14
Views: 12985

Re: LLPSI Familia Romana - alternative AUDIO recordings

Is there any such thread discussing such 'errors' in Lingua Latina?
by A.A.I
Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:24 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin for toddlers
Replies: 6
Views: 3512

Re: Latin for toddlers

There's no minimum age. A fetus can remember sounds, after all. Also, it's not at all obvious that children learn better or that younger people learn better. It's that most adults are rather insane when it comes to learning languages and the way they approach it (attitude and techniques) are what le...
by A.A.I
Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:47 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Languages for Toddlers
Replies: 27
Views: 18785

Re: Classical Languages for Toddlers

No, leaving isn't my intention. Getting deeper into Latin is.

But it's going to deserve another thread, another time.
by A.A.I
Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:18 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Languages for Toddlers
Replies: 27
Views: 18785

Re: Classical Languages for Toddlers

I took that example from others working on similar things but felt the need to check it with someone. I find it hard to believe that one can't specify 'this/that/etc' while asking what something is. 'What's that thing there/on the right/around the corner?' Can't be asked in Latin? Well, I find that ...
by A.A.I
Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:31 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Languages for Toddlers
Replies: 27
Views: 18785

Re: Classical Languages for Toddlers

Scribo, one important consideration is that we're not doing this in the classroom. I'm not as a learner nor will the children be. That's if we're not including any literacy in the beginning as it's something which will be more closely related to methods used in the classroom. The big emphasis at the...
by A.A.I
Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:26 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Languages for Toddlers
Replies: 27
Views: 18785

Re: Classical Languages for Toddlers

Again, I agree, Qimmik. Some of them, I find to be valid assesments of the current and overall situation. Others, I find to be unrealistic. The big question is how we can do the things which are possible, not attempt to avoid the unavoidable. That would mean learning the language rather well yoursel...
by A.A.I
Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:33 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Languages for Toddlers
Replies: 27
Views: 18785

Re: Classical Languages for Toddlers

I agree. That's the very reason we come here asking for help - whether it be in the form of advice, criticism (hopefully constructive) and/or possible contributions - from people who know more. A good deal of ground work has been done on TPR, WAYK, conversational/living Latin and such things. Bite s...
by A.A.I
Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:22 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Languages for Toddlers
Replies: 27
Views: 18785

Re: Classical Languages for Toddlers

Scribo, I must say a few words against your post. Please see it as a desire to clear up misconception and not an attack on the personal level. Why you've decided to speak the way you have, is something you yourself would need to reflect upon. 'So you don't know the language' Athanatos doesn't claim ...