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by ptolemyauletes
Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:54 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin names for states, provinces and regions
Replies: 12
Views: 10941

Re: Latin names for states, provinces and regions

Canada is definitely divided into distinct regions, culturally and linguistically, though for the most part, aside from Quebec, these differences are far less pronounced than in the USA or Great Britain. I would divide it thusly: The Maritimes Quebec Ontario The Prairies (Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alb...
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:35 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: the ita... quod... construction ?
Replies: 16
Views: 7781

Re: the ita... quod... construction ?

Maybe I am missing something, but is this not just a causal clause? 'cum vero animus se ita erigit quod requirit pupillam mali videre et maxillam nequicie tu eum citius in igne comburis' When the heart excites itself so very much BECAUSE it longs to look into the eye of the devil [/evil] and the tee...
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:28 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Subjunctive Perfect vs Imperfect
Replies: 7
Views: 3815

Re: Subjunctive Perfect vs Imperfect

Lesson 20 Sentence: He was thought to be a good general. Me: Eum esse imperatorem bonum putabantur. Answer Key: Bonus imperator esse putabantur. I was under the impression that infinitives took an accusative subject. Did I miss some exception for esse? This is a passive verb. Passive verbs do not n...
by ptolemyauletes
Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:56 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Subjunctive Perfect vs Imperfect
Replies: 7
Views: 3815

Re: Subjunctive Perfect vs Imperfect

Yes, that is a very good explanation. Result clauses do not follow the so-called sequence of tenses as other similar clauses do. This is because result clauses are felt to make the most sense when using the most applicable tense. Think of it this way using your examples: 'So numerous were the enemy ...
by ptolemyauletes
Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:45 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Translation Help
Replies: 3
Views: 2197

Re: Translation Help

This sounds to me to be a perfect sentence for a quod id /qui ei , qui is construction! 'quae administratio' is big enough etc. 'ea' is big enough etc... The 'administratio' clause needs to be subjunctive as it is a clause of characteristic. There also seems to be a natural result clause here... a g...
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:41 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Tolkien's "The Hobbit" in Latin: Hobbitus Ille
Replies: 46
Views: 49523

Re: Tolkien's "The Hobbit" in Latin: Hobbitus Ille

'The making of these was one of his secrets' 'de faciendo [sic!] quorum [sic!] fuit una rerum arcanarum eius' surely quo modo ea facta essent and "... he heard the same scraping, scuffling, snuffling, and growling as before." "... radentem eandem, rixantem, odorantem atque frementem ut ante audiuit....
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:31 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Tolkien's "The Hobbit" in Latin: Hobbitus Ille
Replies: 46
Views: 49523

Re: Tolkien's "The Hobbit" in Latin: Hobbitus Ille

In general I am pretty forgiving of Latin Translations of English books. Many allowances have to be made. At first I thought that Alatius was being overly critical, but after reading his second post I am not so sure. Some of these grammatical constructions are just not Latin. I would mark them wrong...
by ptolemyauletes
Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:51 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: abs. abl. in Cicero
Replies: 3
Views: 2308

Re: abs. abl. in Cicero

In fact, I think it is quite the opposite. Ablative Absolutes are only not used when they are not feasible. If an Ablative Absolute can be used, it often will. This is how I teach composition. Any time you have a situation where one person or group of people are doing two separate things you have an...
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:37 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: captum iri vel capturus esse?
Replies: 8
Views: 3065

Re: captum iri vel capturus esse?

Sceptra tenens, id quod haud ad quaestionem nostram pertinet, ego tamen tibi de verbo 'fas' aliquantulum dissentio. mihi 'fas' videtur esse verbum quod magnam partem ad deos atque religionem attinet. num dicis Bedwere magnum contra deos facinum commisisse? pro pudore! pro inversi mores! quo usque ta...
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:35 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: captum iri vel capturus esse?
Replies: 8
Views: 3065

Re: captum iri vel capturus esse?

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by ptolemyauletes
Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:20 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: captum iri vel capturus esse?
Replies: 8
Views: 3065

Re: captum iri vel capturus esse?

Sceptra tenens scripsit: Num fas est "captos iri" dicere? Doctus sum infinitivum futurum passivum fuisse supinum cum iri. de hoc ego quoque in animo saepe volvo. quoniam in Latina litteris perraro apparet, numquam certus fui. idcirco pro certo habeo te recte dicere, quod, ubi id scriptum in libro gr...
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:43 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: ipsum, adv?
Replies: 2
Views: 1291

Re: ipsum, adv?

I think it's just acting like an intensifier. 'Which among the Greeks is itself (in and of itself) not a word of the common people but of philosophers.'
by ptolemyauletes
Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:15 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin terms for weather, geography, plants, etc.
Replies: 4
Views: 2741

Re: Latin terms for weather, geography, plants, etc.

Thanks a lot, Sceptre Holder. There are some amazing resources there, that largely render the work I was doing obsolete. Saves me a lot of time. Thanks again.
by ptolemyauletes
Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:58 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Bradley's Arnold - Latin Prose Composition, Mistake?
Replies: 3
Views: 2249

Re: Bradley's Arnold - Latin Prose Composition, Mistake?

Verbs that take oblique cases ( these include verbs that take the dative, such as parco, credo, pareo, and, faveo) can never be used passively with a person other than an impersonal third person. This is due to their nature. They need to have their object in the dative. When you flip a verb from act...
by ptolemyauletes
Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:52 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin terms for weather, geography, plants, etc.
Replies: 4
Views: 2741

Latin terms for weather, geography, plants, etc.

Latin terms for weather, geography, plants, etc. I will post this in a few places as there seems not to be too much activity in some of the boards. I am working on composing a text that is very descriptive in terms of geography, water features, woodlands, hills, passes, valleys, plants, trees, flowe...
by ptolemyauletes
Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:52 am
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: Latin terms for weather, geography, plants, etc.
Replies: 2
Views: 3420

Latin terms for weather, geography, plants, etc.

Latin terms for weather, geography, plants, etc. I will post this in a few places as there seems not to be too much activity in some of the boards. I am working on composing a text that is very descriptive in terms of geography, water features, woodlands, hills, passes, valleys, plants, trees, flowe...
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:54 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: A little help with a short composition
Replies: 3
Views: 1411

A little help with a short composition

My Greek is extremely rusty. One of my students is asking me for a Greek translation of a short little phrase (it is apparently some kind of joke). The phrase is 'Are you ready for ... THE ROOM?' I have come up with something like this so far (apologies as I have no Greek script on my computer) ei s...
by ptolemyauletes
Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:06 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Privatus
Replies: 2
Views: 1431

Re: Privatus

'privatus' is usually used in Classical Latin to refer to a person who is acting outside of the bounds of political office, who has been freed or separated from office (note that the term 'freed' here has no moral attachment or sense of being unburdened, but is being used in a much more literal mean...
by ptolemyauletes
Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:57 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Indovice!
Replies: 11
Views: 3134

Re: Indovice!

Thanks Adrianus for confirming essentially what I wrote, and for, as usual, expressing it more eloquently.
Ludovic.... yes, I can see that clearly now... I looked at it for several moments, but nothing came.
by ptolemyauletes
Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:46 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Six questions about LLPSI Cap. XIX
Replies: 4
Views: 1319

Re: Six questions about LLPSI Cap. XIX

A quick note on plus. plus is actually treated as a noun in the singular. In the plural it reverts to being a proper adjective, but in the singular it is treated as an indeclinable noun taking the genitive in the manner of satis. The genitive so used is partitive in nature. plus vini = more of the w...
by ptolemyauletes
Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:26 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Not sure why 'quo' is used
Replies: 9
Views: 5206

Re: Not sure why 'quo' is used

Sorry to post again here. Carolus, I have found several instances of quo being used in a sense that implies an ablative (or locative) sense, among them; locus, quo exercitui aditus non erat: Caesar, Gallic Wars 2, 16 But I think overall your point is valid: The accusative idea of 'to what end', or '...
by ptolemyauletes
Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:14 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Indovice!
Replies: 11
Views: 3134

Re: Indovice!

far should read fac... see to it that you... counsultis should read consulis Glory of Peace, Terror of War, Indovice! No idea what Indovice is, perhaps a late or Medieval Latin coinage, perhaps a name or title? I am not sure of the rest, but it may read 'let not that good house which you look after ...
by ptolemyauletes
Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:56 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Translation Question
Replies: 3
Views: 1204

Re: Translation Question

Both are probably ok, although I would add an 'is' to the second half of the first sentence. qui hoc legere scit, is paene certe est mortuus. probabiliter is not a terribly Latin way of expressing probably (at least not in my experience), a word which in general is awkwardly expressed. Perhaps sine ...
by ptolemyauletes
Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Not sure why 'quo' is used
Replies: 9
Views: 5206

Re: Not sure why 'quo' is used

Another note, on convenio, Carolus you have noted that it seems most often to take the Accusative. This does make sense when one considers the nature of the verb venio, implying motion, but one certainly sees many instances of verbs changing their normal case usage when compounded. Admittedly this i...
by ptolemyauletes
Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:21 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Not sure why 'quo' is used
Replies: 9
Views: 5206

Re: Not sure why 'quo' is used

Carolus, that is very interesting. I am glad you took the time to look into it further than i did. I remain at least partially convinced that my explanation was correct, if only because I am stubborn, but perhaps I have been misunderstanding quo all this time. An alternative explanation could be tha...
by ptolemyauletes
Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:53 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Gnaeus Pompēius Magnus - Part two
Replies: 2
Views: 1140

Re: Gnaeus Pompēius Magnus - Part two

Phil, i wrote a lengthy reply to you, but goddam textkit signed me out and I lost it all. Not in the mood to type the whole thing out again so here in brief. but nothing seemed more distinguished than (id) quod = the fact that three conquered regions of the world had etc... Africa Asia and Europe, n...
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:04 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Dealing with words that have more than 5 meanings
Replies: 7
Views: 8012

Re: Dealing with words that have more than 5 meanings

Vocabulary in Latin is no different than any other language. Words can have a variety of different meanings depending on context. The worst offenders in English are prepositions, which baffle and befuddle those new to the language. Consider 'off'. One turns a light off, deactivating it, but a fire a...
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:34 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Can I get quick view on translation?
Replies: 3
Views: 980

Re: Can I get quick view on translation?

No... I am not quite sure what you are trying to say, but I think I see two errors. Firstly, if hoc is meant to modify sententiam then its gender is incorrect. It should read hanc, for sententiam is feminine. Secondly, you have no finite verb in your final quia clause. I assume you are trying to say...
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:27 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Not sure why 'quo' is used
Replies: 9
Views: 5206

Re: Not sure why 'quo' is used

This is simply an ablative of place, omitting the preposition 'in'. People gather IN a place. I don't think an accusative necessarily needs to be used, though I can understand why the compound form of 'venire' might make it seem to be needed, but in any case, quo is used rather idiomatically in Lati...
by ptolemyauletes
Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:17 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Neo-Latin
Replies: 4
Views: 1774

Re: Neo-Latin

I was once given a piece of Latin from the early 1800s to translate by a man writing a work on astronomy. It was written by the mathematician Carl Gauss on the orbit of the recently discovered Asteroid Ceres. It was exceedingly difficult to work out, for three main reasons. The first was that Gauss ...
by ptolemyauletes
Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:48 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lingua Latina
Replies: 3
Views: 1405

Re: Lingua Latina

Adrianus wrote: Sed quid sacrificia mulierem furentem iuvant "But what/how do sacrifices help/benefit/avail an angry woman?" Dixit, et os impressa toro... "And [she] buried [as to] her face in the bed, she said..." = "And, with her face buried in the bed, she said...", in accusative of specification...
by ptolemyauletes
Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:19 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Summertime Aeneid
Replies: 5
Views: 1890

Re: Summertime Aeneid

Yes, unda is of course water, rather than shore... a few translations I came across indicated a landing... I will check Lewis and Short for unda... As you well know, my translations were intentionally literal in an effort to convey the grammatical structure. I am sure dsch appreciates your help, as ...
by ptolemyauletes
Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:53 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Summertime Aeneid
Replies: 5
Views: 1890

Re: Summertime Aeneid

promissi dea facta potens 'The Goddess, having become powerful of the promised thing' meaning 'the goddess, having fulfilled her promise.' facta is a participle modifying dea. promissi is also a participle. It is describing a thing that she has promised. The neuter thing is in the genitive case, hen...
by ptolemyauletes
Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:02 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Can anyone explain the 'explanation'
Replies: 21
Views: 4295

Re: Can anyone explain the 'explanation'

Yes Furrykef, you are correct, insofar as form is concerned. There is obviously a difference in usage, and surely in basic understanding, but for all intents and puropses they look the same. You can see future active participles for verbs that regularly have no 4th principal parts. Some dictionaries...
by ptolemyauletes
Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:33 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Can anyone explain the 'explanation'
Replies: 21
Views: 4295

Re: Can anyone explain the 'explanation'

datus-data-datum
Really makes no difference. The 4th principal part is, as you say, the perfect passive Participle.
Different dictionaries list it in different ways. Some give it with the masculine us ending, some with the neuter um, some as us-a-um. Doesn't really make a difference.
by ptolemyauletes
Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:25 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: use of Quid
Replies: 18
Views: 3462

Re: use of Quid

pmda wrote: Here's exactly what he says - on p.69 of TYL. Interrogative adjective (WHAT chariot do you like?). then beneath this he has the table: qui/quis; quae/quis; quod etc..... Above the Interrogative pronoun table he offers 'WHO is that?'. With the pronouns he's offering only examples of peop...
by ptolemyauletes
Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:33 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Quomodo dicere?
Replies: 2
Views: 987

Re: Quomodo dicere?

I might also suggest using a gerund for your question.
'quid est mos melior dicendi Latine...'

The use of the infinitive seems a bit off to me...

I know that's nothing to do with your query, but it might help nonetheless.

BTW I agree with cb about utinam.
by ptolemyauletes
Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Can anyone explain the 'explanation'
Replies: 21
Views: 4295

Re: Can anyone explain the 'explanation'

do, dare, dedi, datum
My students must learn all 4 principal parts, or risk a severe beating at my hands.
Just kidding. I get the other students to apply the beating.
by ptolemyauletes
Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:18 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: ablative and use of ab / a or without any preposition
Replies: 14
Views: 9411

Re: ablative and use of ab / a or without any preposition

servi mali baculo domini timentur

Come on guys... nonsensical? Far from it! It's obvious - 'The wicked slaves are feared by the master's rod.'

What? You've never seen a rod cowering in the corner as some wicked slaves enter the room?
by ptolemyauletes
Thu May 27, 2010 8:12 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Hello! A question about relative clauses
Replies: 5
Views: 1363

Re: Hello! A question about relative clauses

Atque ille eo tempore paruit, cum parere senatui necesse erat - Cicero Pro Ligario 7.20 potuitne illo die, cum est lata lex de me, - Cicero Pro Milone 14.38 Videamus nunc (id quod caput est) locus ad insidias ille ipse, ubi congressi sunt - Cicero pro Milone 20.53 311. Relative Claues are introduced...