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by Paco
Thu May 17, 2018 6:04 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Newbie seeks good readers
Replies: 17
Views: 5670

Re: Newbie seeks good readers

I agree that super-student-friendly materials like Steadman's have a role to play. At the end of the day, to more truly and fully appreciate a given classical text, we have to consult more than 1 scholarly commentaries, and even then, burn our brains to bear fruit. Plus we often don't grab that know...
by Paco
Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:10 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Whose works survived better?
Replies: 2
Views: 1511

Whose works survived better?

Among the writers who wrote in Homeric Greek or Attic/Atticised Greek before the Middle Ages, whose works survived better? Is Lucian the man? Should the topic be further narrowed down and specified, I am concerned especially with non-technical (e.g. non-scientific) writers, and concerned with number...
by Paco
Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:57 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Lucian's Dialogues prepared for schools
Replies: 16
Views: 6817

Re: Lucian's Dialogues prepared for schools

Caution: sidetrack

Amazing it is that you have written such a program! It is exhausting to do it page after page.
by Paco
Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:27 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Stopping Point for 1st Year Latin
Replies: 2
Views: 1959

Re: Stopping Point for 1st Year Latin

Since no one has answered yet, perhaps let a novice share his first thoughts. In the US, an average contemporary high school student learns the whole of the basic grammar in two years (by working through a comprehensive textbook) and read authentic/adapted texts in their third year. Since every text...
by Paco
Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:40 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Atehnaze Group?
Replies: 26
Views: 7640

Re: Atehnaze Group?

I would like to note that the Teacher's Handbook (and Textbook) available at Open Library is their revised 1st edition. I am not sure how different it is from the 2nd edition (as I have not yet officially started studying Ancient Greek and compared them) but there seems to have been significant revi...
by Paco
Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:20 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: How authentic is Greek Ollendorff?
Replies: 4
Views: 2442

Re: How authentic is Greek Ollendorff?

Thank you, Qimmik, Markos and Daivid. How inconsistent was I when starting the thread! Indeed the whole point of Greek Ollendorff, together with other adapted Greek, is to familiarise us with morphology and basic syntactically construct; which help us to get to the real deal - corpus - to learn real...
by Paco
Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:14 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: How authentic is Greek Ollendorff?
Replies: 4
Views: 2442

How authentic is Greek Ollendorff?

Such a book cannot be totally "Classical" which is understandable. But how good is the book in terms of authenticity? Are the vocabulary and usage drawn from Attic authors or at least in line with them? Did the author just innovate his own Greek with modernism and over-simplified syntax (i.e. simila...
by Paco
Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:33 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Shortcomings of popular textbooks like JACT
Replies: 2
Views: 1840

Shortcomings of popular textbooks like JACT

Some experienced learners not infrequently show discontent with popular "contemporary" textbooks such as JACT and Athenaze. What are the shortcomings of them? Thank you.
by Paco
Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:07 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin audio online?
Replies: 9
Views: 6822

Re: Latin audio online?

I am not sure if Assimil has redone the recordings, but the original accompanying Desessard's course has quite heavy (French) accent. The book is a fine course per se.
by Paco
Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:12 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Key to Greek Ollendorff. Please help!
Replies: 138
Views: 132520

Re: Key to Greek Ollendorff. Please help!

Thank you. I am sure it will be of great use when I finish the projects in hand.

But can one obtain the key without paying scribd? It seems one has to become a premium member in order to view or download it.
by Paco
Wed May 29, 2013 3:46 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Audio for Ancient Greek
Replies: 25
Views: 20458

Re: Audio for Ancient Greek

So now I have made up my mind and will formally start studying Greek soon. I appreciate all the advice and guidance everyone has contributed! I would love to commence with Homeric Greek, I will begin with Attic though, as audio support, which is indispensable for me to learn any language, dead or li...
by Paco
Wed May 15, 2013 4:54 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: When to stop translating with Orberg's Lingua Latina
Replies: 22
Views: 15984

Re: When to stop translating with Orberg's Lingua Latina

I am not sure if Latin is a special case, but general language learning experience is that you do not have to check the dictionary and develop the ability to translate at the moment. You are at the learning stage. It is a good sign that you get what it means IN LATIN . I believe translation is bette...
by Paco
Tue May 14, 2013 6:05 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Audio for Ancient Greek
Replies: 25
Views: 20458

Re: Audio for Ancient Greek

I would also like to know if the 2012 version has the same or better audio materials. Thank you in advance.
by Paco
Fri May 10, 2013 7:28 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: When to stop translating with Orberg's Lingua Latina
Replies: 22
Views: 15984

Re: When to stop translating with Orberg's Lingua Latina

I second what Markos have said. It is possible to think in L2, even with a dead language and without immersion. (It is certainly good to have immersion.) I could offer my own experience with English as a piece of evidence. My native tongue is Cantonese, which is immensely different from an Indo-Euro...
by Paco
Fri May 03, 2013 7:29 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Stages of Latin
Replies: 3
Views: 2226

Re: Stages of Latin

Thank you. Succinct and to-the-point.
by Paco
Wed May 01, 2013 7:17 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek audio
Replies: 10
Views: 4212

Re: Greek audio

Do the book and the recordings teach Attic Greek or other variants?
by Paco
Wed May 01, 2013 6:30 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Stages of Latin
Replies: 3
Views: 2226

Stages of Latin

If someone can read Classical Latin, is s/he in a position to follow literature from its classical through medieval to neo stages as well? Is it recommended to study each of the stages, as if in the case of Greek? Is it common?
by Paco
Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:38 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lingua Latina for beginners?
Replies: 12
Views: 8492

Re: Lingua Latina for beginners?

Thank you everyone. Your enthusiasm and help are useful and encouraging. I'm not sure why you think that. I used Lingua Latina first, then other books, and that order worked beautifully for me. To be more exact, I used Lingua Latina up to a certain point, then other works, then back to Lingua latina...
by Paco
Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:48 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Audio for Ancient Greek
Replies: 25
Views: 20458

Re: Audio for Ancient Greek

I think the company simply picked someone who happened to speak Ancient Greek (or learn to speak it) quite well and have the time to produce the recordings, so it can be anybody. Well, one thing we are sure is he/she speaks French. It is very interesting already to imagine people talking in Ancient ...
by Paco
Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:30 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lingua Latina for beginners?
Replies: 12
Views: 8492

Re: Lingua Latina for beginners?

Thank you.

I am thinking if Lingua Latina can be used as the first course for self-studies. I thought I was going to start out with it, and use Wheelock afterwards to supplement the grammar.
by Paco
Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:24 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Audio for Ancient Greek
Replies: 25
Views: 20458

Re: Audio for Ancient Greek

Thank you for your detailed reply. Your suggestion is quite good. I may actually make a tailor-made set of audio materials for the course I choose if the course is of the reading course-type. In fact, I would like to start with Reading Course in Homeric Greek by Schoder and Horrigan. I would like to...
by Paco
Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:22 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lingua Latina for beginners?
Replies: 12
Views: 8492

Lingua Latina for beginners?

Is Lingua Latina per se Illustrata written solely in Latin? Is it suitable for beginner's studies? Looking at the preview at Amazon, I could hardly see an English word. Though I could guess the meanings of the first chapters (because of the common roots), it is not easy then on. I am thinking about ...
by Paco
Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:17 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Audio of Wheelock and TYS
Replies: 1
Views: 1495

Audio of Wheelock and TYS

Do the audio materials of the two courses listed in the subject cover the whole texts of them? If not, how much do they cover? At the moment, I am not able to sample those Latin courses before purchasing them, so any help will be greatly appreciated.
by Paco
Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:13 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Audio for Ancient Greek
Replies: 25
Views: 20458

Audio for Ancient Greek

Is there any good Ancient Greek textbooks with Audio? Or is there any audio suitable for beginner's studies (instead of recordings of complete prose)? I mainly refer to Homeric Greek, and Attic the second. The only book I know of with good audio is Assimil Grec Ancien, which teaches Attic Greek. Tha...
by Paco
Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:22 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Review on A Reading Course in Homeric Greek
Replies: 1
Views: 1601

Review on A Reading Course in Homeric Greek

Hi. I am new to this forum, and am collecting Greek courses for future studies. I would like some advice on the above course. My professor recommended the older version of the course, i.e., the original by Schoder and Horrigan. He did not mention the revised version by Lesile Edward, so I am not sur...