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by Nesrad
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:24 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Google translate audio
Replies: 3
Views: 548

Re: Google translate audio

It's just the Italian voice, and Google is stupid for using it. It doesn't even work properly for the ecclesiastical pronunciation.
by Nesrad
Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:56 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Download from hathitrust.org - help
Replies: 2
Views: 486

Re: Download from hathitrust.org - help

https://sourceforge.net/projects/hathidownloadhelper/
Tick the proxy box for outside the US
by Nesrad
Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:12 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Classical Latin literature
Replies: 1
Views: 439

Re: Classical Latin literature

by Nesrad
Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: question about the subjunctive
Replies: 5
Views: 766

Re: question about the subjunctive

I changed the key to the pluperfect subjunctive considering the information given in the textbook.
by Nesrad
Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:15 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ask through where? "per quem locum?"
Replies: 8
Views: 1026

Re: Ask through where? "per quem locum?"

Qua cuccurit?
by Nesrad
Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:33 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Question about the genitive of possession
Replies: 3
Views: 760

Re: Question about the genitive of possession

I think I was trying to avoid putting "in" before the genitive in order to not cause confusion in the mind of a beginner.
by Nesrad
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:08 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Question about the genitive of possession
Replies: 3
Views: 760

Re: Question about the genitive of possession

I believe Nutting says at some point that the genitive precedes the noun it qualifies, but this is by no means a rule. I've asked myself the same question in the past, and I got different answers depending on the grammar I consulted, with a slight preference for the genitive before the noun.
by Nesrad
Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:41 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Translation question from Nutting exercise 39
Replies: 7
Views: 1324

Re: Translation question from Nutting exercise 39

I remember thinking about which case to use when writing the key. "In cunās" didn't seem idiomatic with "collocare".
by Nesrad
Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:29 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: question about the word "ceteri"
Replies: 8
Views: 1546

Re: question about the word "ceteri"

Ego sum qui erravi, humanus enim sum. Ignoscite, amici.
by Nesrad
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:12 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: "Quod nomen vobis est"
Replies: 4
Views: 1228

Re: "Quod nomen vobis est"

Magister: "Et quod nomen vobis est?" Discipulus: "Mihi nomen est Rufinus." Discipulus: "Horatius mihi nomen est." Here, "nomen" is sigular, followed by "est", but "vobis" is plural form of "tibi". According to the response of students, their names are different with each other, which means there ar...
by Nesrad
Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:23 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: question about the word "ceteri"
Replies: 8
Views: 1546

Re: question about the word "ceteri"

"Poenas dare" is given in the vocabulary of lesson XII and is explained in a note. It's the only way given by Nutting to say "to be punished", and the only option available to use in the key.
by Nesrad
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: audio latin
Replies: 2
Views: 956

Re: audio latin

It should be noted that Scorpio's work is technically an infringement of copyright. Its use could be morally justified as a secondary resource if one were to buy one of the recordings available from the publisher: https://www.hackettpublishing.com/lingua-latina-per-se-illustrata-series/lingua-latina...
by Nesrad
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:52 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Question about the enclitic "-ne"
Replies: 4
Views: 1162

Re: Question about the enclitic "-ne"

Nutting exercise 37; English into Latin--"Are there apples on the tree? Do you see berries in the garden?" The key translates this as "Suntne mala in abore? Bacasne in horto vides?". Why does the verb "sunt" take "ne" while "vides" dosen't? A&G says -ne is added to the emphatic word. This sounds a ...
by Nesrad
Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:24 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Question about possessive pronouns
Replies: 20
Views: 2571

Re: Question about possessive pronouns

Your experience is a witness to the usefulness of composition, and at the same time a witness to the defects of reading methods such as LLPSI (at least when used by an autodidact).
by Nesrad
Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Sen. Ben. 6, 22.
Replies: 5
Views: 1200

Re: Sen. Ben. 6, 22.

Quandoquidem sidera interdum dei a Seneca habentur, quomodo fieri potest ut ocius citius in conflagratione concrementur, cum immortales sint?
by Nesrad
Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Sen. Ben. 6, 22.
Replies: 5
Views: 1200

Re: Sen. Ben. 6, 22.

Yes, very much, thanks for the help.
by Nesrad
Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:08 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Sen. Ben. 6, 22.
Replies: 5
Views: 1200

Sen. Ben. 6, 22.

22. “Agedum,” inquit, “si possunt, resistant.” Hoc dicis: “Omnia ista ingentibus intervallis diducta et in custodiam universi disposita stationes suas deserant; subita confusione rerum sidera sideribus incurrant, et rupta rerum concordia in ruinam divina labantur, contextusque velocitatis citatissi...
by Nesrad
Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin word order
Replies: 25
Views: 2657

Re: Latin word order

I'm going through Nutting's Primer, doing the English into Latin exercises as well, my first try at composition. I find word order difficult. I've looked at a few grammar books. It's still difficult. Anyone out there who knows a particularly good source for word order? Regarding the English to Lati...
by Nesrad
Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:02 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: the verb darent
Replies: 10
Views: 1802

Re: the verb darent

The website will allow you to search using logical operators and by author and work.

Not being a classicist, I'm not aware of all the tools, but I do know that software such as Diogenes will read the PHI database, and that such software likely has more advanced tools for sorting data.
by Nesrad
Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:51 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: the verb darent
Replies: 10
Views: 1802

Re: the verb darent

Surely by now there must be such a thing (as in Greek there’s the TLG), or at least a searchable L&S or OLD. Have the PHI disks been superseded? Fifty years ago David Packard, then an Assistant Professor of Classics at UCLA, produced a computer-generated concordance to Livy, and think of the progre...
by Nesrad
Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:48 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Augustine, City of God, b. 5, ch. 26 use of quod
Replies: 3
Views: 1147

Re: Augustine, City of God, b. 5, ch. 26 use of quod

I think there are some implicit omissions:

quae non ideo potest [facere id] quod ueritas [potest facere], quia, si uoluerit, etiam plus potest clamare quam ueritas.

It can't accomplish the same thing as the truth for the mere reason that (non ideo... quia) it shouts more.
by Nesrad
Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:26 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Augustine, de civitate dei, V, ch.2
Replies: 6
Views: 1407

Re: Augustine, de civitate dei, V, ch.2

"Ex" seems to add a causal nuance, whereas "in" would express merely the location.

Augustine is sometimes obscure is a general impression.
by Nesrad
Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:10 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Augustine, de civitate dei, V, ch.2
Replies: 6
Views: 1407

Re: Augustine, de civitate dei, V, ch.2

It is indeed an abl. abs., but as to the voice, I'm not sure how you'd qualify it grammatically in this instance.
by Nesrad
Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:43 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Augustine, de civitate dei, V, ch.2
Replies: 6
Views: 1407

Re: Augustine, de civitate dei, V, ch.2

Another doosy. Augustine can really be obscure. My attempt at an excessively literal translation: ...because the beginnings of the foetuses could be influenced by how the parents were constituted in the body when they had sex, so that they would be born after having obtained prior growth of equal he...
by Nesrad
Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is this called reading Caesar?
Replies: 35
Views: 5456

Re: Is this called reading Caesar?

I've PMed you in order to avoid spamming this thread.
by Nesrad
Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is this called reading Caesar?
Replies: 35
Views: 5456

Re: Is this called reading Caesar?

I'd be very interested in downloading printable PDF's from them. To save you and others the trouble, I've gone ahead and uploaded it to the Internet Archive , as I should have a while ago. As for starting again with Nutting's Latin Primer, there is something a little despairing about starting all o...
by Nesrad
Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:10 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is this called reading Caesar?
Replies: 35
Views: 5456

Re: Is this called reading Caesar?

I had never heard of Ad Alpes by Nutting. Looks possibly of interest, but the price of the new (2017) edition is high. I don't know if it's just a coincidence, but it seems a free printable PDF of the old edition is unavailable. At least I can't find one. You can get it from Hathitrust . Use Hathi ...
by Nesrad
Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:29 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Looking for: Print edition of Lewis & Short
Replies: 18
Views: 2840

Re: Looking for: Print edition of Lewis & Short

Have you tried using Godmy's Digital Forcellini online? It's become my favourite dictionary. I use it on my mobile phone all the time. A very useful tool, but hardly appropriate for casual reading, because the entries are so long. Also, I don't like forming a dependence on online dictionaries that ...
by Nesrad
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:02 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Looking for: Print edition of Lewis & Short
Replies: 18
Views: 2840

Re: Looking for: Print edition of Lewis & Short

I've never used Traupman, does it have many examples? I also use the Gaffiot pocket edition as often as the ELD, and exclusively for late authors. It's the only compact dictionary I know of that is useful for post-Classical texts, and the translations are really useful, although they take up space t...
by Nesrad
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:50 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Looking for: Print edition of Lewis & Short
Replies: 18
Views: 2840

Re: Looking for: Print edition of Lewis & Short

To each his own, but I would find it quite inconvenient to use either the OLD or L&S for casual reading (multa legere), i.e. kicking up your heels in an armchair and plowing through a given author. It takes too long to scan the entries, and these are heavy, bulky books. My go-to dictionary for the c...
by Nesrad
Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Augustine, City of God, Book 4, ch.2
Replies: 36
Views: 4490

Re: Augustine, City of God, Book 4, ch.2

Mwh, I was waiting for you to intervene with the correct reading. How about it?
by Nesrad
Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:06 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Augustine, City of God, Book 4, ch.2
Replies: 36
Views: 4490

Re: Augustine, City of God, Book 4, ch.2

I think the final part of the paragraph means:

...and to recall all the great evils that could have occurred, even though the evils that did occur to the state or to the rule of its province, before their sacrifices were banned, seem sufficient [for my purpose of refuting those men].
by Nesrad
Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:45 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Primus Annus / Puer romanus
Replies: 7
Views: 3193

Re: Primus Annus / Puer romanus

Very nice work. Thank you.
by Nesrad
Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:02 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Online: Whitaker's Words 1.97FC for Linux
Replies: 2
Views: 1177

Re: Online: Whitaker's Words 1.97FC for Linux

Thanks, until now I've always used the Windows binary in Wine. I believe there is a project to refactor Whitaker's code and resume development.
by Nesrad
Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:23 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Looking for: Print edition of Lewis & Short
Replies: 18
Views: 2840

Re: Looking for: Print edition of Lewis & Short

I don't want to seem insistent, since you have already made your choice but I'd like to point out that L&S is based on a German dictionary, and you might find something more appropriate in German. Personally, my mother tongue is French, so I am happy to have the Gaffiot, which is a nice compromise b...
by Nesrad
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:26 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Looking for: Print edition of Lewis & Short
Replies: 18
Views: 2840

Re: Looking for: Print edition of Lewis & Short

Mwh, doesn't your advice assume that Carolus will be reading strictly classical Latin?

Carolus, what will you be using it for? What languages other than English do you understand?
by Nesrad
Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:20 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Looking for: complete Livy in Latin (public domain)
Replies: 4
Views: 1480

Re: Looking for: complete Livy in Latin (public domain)

In Perseus, you can display the whole text of each book by clicking on "View text chunked by: book" in the left sidebar. Then you can copy-paste. You can also download the XML version at the bottom of the page, if you know how to parse it. Perseus publishes their works under a Creative Commons Licen...
by Nesrad
Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:16 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Looking for: series "Clari Romani"
Replies: 3
Views: 1256

Re: Looking for: series "Clari Romani"

You can get at least some of them from Hathitrust. To find out which ones are available in Full View, you will need to use a proxy to fool Hathitrust into thinking you're in the US. I suggest the Hola plugin for Chrome. Here's an example that is in Limited View without the proxy, but in Full View wi...
by Nesrad
Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Question about passage in Ørberg's edition of Caesar
Replies: 12
Views: 2919

Re: Question about passage in Ørberg's edition of Caesar

I really don't understand the hate Ørberg gets What hate? All I ever hear is praise. Whenever I dare to say something less than adulatory, members of the Orberg sect get all defensive, as if their favourite method were divinely inspired. Besides, I just said I'm not convinced it's the best for auto...
by Nesrad
Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:17 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Question about passage in Ørberg's edition of Caesar
Replies: 12
Views: 2919

Re: Question about passage in Ørberg's edition of Caesar

Julius, A caveat on Randy’s breezy “editorializing.” It can happen—it all too often does happen—that someone thinks they understand something when in fact they don’t. Just going with what “clearly has to be the meaning” doesn’t always work. You need to understand the Latin properly before you can b...