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by nefercheprure
Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:44 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Significance of accents in ancient Greek
Replies: 6
Views: 2949

... I was particularly puzzled by the suggestion that a grave accent was used to mark a syllable that was previously (but no longer) acute, and so should be pronounced at base level. ... The accent marking system is sometimes said to have a simpler precursor: each unaccented syllable after the stre...
by nefercheprure
Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:30 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: zeta pronounce
Replies: 57
Views: 49926

... For example, the word [size=150]ἔζομαι[/size], root "sed-", I assumed an S had been added between the stem and the personal endings (for some reason...). This is the only example I can think of at the moment (I am a newbie as you know)... perhaps there is another explanation for this word? This...
by nefercheprure
Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:27 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Suggestions for a Beginner
Replies: 3
Views: 1633

Re: Suggestions for a Beginner

I can probably afford to spend anywhere from 30 minutes to 1 hour on Greek several days per week. I'm going to have to do some serious budgeting of my time, but I figure it's more worthwhile than zoning out in front of the TV or reading a novel for the umpteenth time. Any suggestions, other than "D...
by nefercheprure
Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:48 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Krasis, elisis and hiati
Replies: 3
Views: 1892

I meant any style. I meant any rule, that is more specific then: ,,sometimes it happens.`` Isocrates sounds good. Maybe [Demosthenes, Plato, or Xenofon]'s style would be good as well. It really does not matter as long as it is (a) Attic prose (b) consistent rule set (c) based on real evidence. (a) c...
by nefercheprure
Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:48 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Krasis, elisis and hiati
Replies: 3
Views: 1892

Krasis, elisis and hiati

I wonder, is there a rule that tells when to use krasis, when to elide the final vowel, and when to leave hiatus? (I mean in prose, in verse it is dictated by the metrum)
by nefercheprure
Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:05 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: Carmina Natalia
Replies: 4
Views: 4196

benissimus wrote:Etiam 'Satanas' Graece declinari potest (sic mea refert).
[size=150]ὁμολογῶ σοι. καίπερ ἐμοῦ εἰδότος οὐκ ἔλεγον οὐ γὰρ μιμνῃσκόμενος τὰς ρωμαικὰς μορφὰς τὰς τῶν ῥημάτων τῶν (ελληνικῶν. καὶ δὴ καὶ ἀπολογοῦμαι περὶ τὸ γράφειν (ελληνιστί. ρᾷον δὴ μοι γράφειν οὕτως.[/size]
by nefercheprure
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:52 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: Carmina Natalia
Replies: 4
Views: 4196

Re: Carmines Natalis

In verso tertio, verbum "Satan" credo e hebraica est, et forsin formam perfectam in latinam non habeat, cogitabam. Auctores christiani ,,Satanas`` usum sunt. ,,Apage Satanas!`` ,,Retro Satanas!`` Et Satanas indeclinabile potest. Sed et declinabile modo agricolae -- Satanas, Satanae, Satanae ... (If...
by nefercheprure
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:28 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: uden allo... e
Replies: 11
Views: 4885

Emma_85 wrote: Well you can have krasis with other words too, such as:
τἀ=λλα < τὰ ἄλλα
or (a more annoying contraction)
τοὐναντίον < τὸ ἐναντίον
τἀληθῆ λέγεις... = τὰ ἀληθῆ λέγεις...
... Thrasymachos XVI οἴκοι second paragraph

κἀγώ ... καὶ ἐγώ
by nefercheprure
Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:40 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: A word from Aristotle
Replies: 8
Views: 3842

... it is impossible for a word to start with a rough breathing and a vowel immediately followed by an aspirated consonant. (A rule of no known exceptions, hence very useful.) Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but what of: ἑφθός ἥφθη ἧχι Not to mention the name Hephaestus? ... This rule works well f...
by nefercheprure
Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:31 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: aspirated rho
Replies: 19
Views: 10505

I was told that ``aspirated rho'' was first sounded as `hr' which was changed later to `rh' and to `r' even later. The theory is not far fetched considering the evolution of English. HWAET > WHAT > WAT (though still written what) HW > WH > W in English HR > RH > R in Greek As for your attempts: I ha...
by nefercheprure
Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:41 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: A word from Aristotle
Replies: 8
Views: 3842

Re: A word from Aristotle

ἧχθαι I've no idea whether this word means "lead" or "begin"~~~~ and would u please tell me the accidence of it~~~~~ Thanx a lot Did you mean ἦχθαι ? it is impossible for a word to start with a rough breathing and a vovel immediately followed by an aspirated consonant. (A rule of no known exception...
by nefercheprure
Tue May 18, 2004 5:55 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: ti/ni tro/pw| diatri/bete xro/non;
Replies: 4
Views: 4281

Re: ti/ni tro/pw| diatri/bete xro/non;

[quote="chad"]τίνι τρόπῳ διατρίβετε χρόνον σπουδάζοντες περὶ τὸ (ελληνίζειν ἐν τῷ νῦν; ἐγὼ, θελ/ων πάνυ μανθάνειν τὰ τοῦ )αριστοτέλους τε καὶ τοῦ πλάτωνος, μέλω τῶνδε μάλιστα. καὶ ὑμεῖς;[/quote] ἐν μὲν τῇ ἀρχῇ τῇ τοῦ διδασκομένου μου ἤθελον δὴ ἀναγιγνώσκειν τὰ τοῦ (ομήρου, νῦν δὲ ἀπόρω. ἐπεὶ μὲν μεμ...
by nefercheprure
Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:59 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: peira/zwmen gra/phein e)n th^ E(llh/nika A)rchei/a
Replies: 18
Views: 15028

chad wrote:Νεφερχεπρούρῃ χαίρειν. ἔξεστί σοι ῥᾳδίως χρῆσθαι ἐνταῦθα

[face=Arial]"size=24 ... /size"[/face]

ἵνα τὰ γράμματα ἐπαυξάνῃς. ἆρα πάλαι ταύτην τὴν γλῶτταν ἐκμανθάνεις; ἔρρωσθε.
kai\ tau=t' e)sti w(s oi( Brettanikoi\ kiklh/skousi ,,kludge''
N.
by nefercheprure
Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:02 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: peira/zwmen gra/phein e)n th^ E(llh/nika A)rchei/a
Replies: 18
Views: 15028

u(mi=n polla_ xai/rein. e0a_n gra&fhte su\n toi~j mega&loij gramma&toij, u(mi=n h(de/wj diale/comai: e1rrwsqe. e)a\n su/ mh\ grayh|s su\n toi=s ,,0'' kai\ ,,&'' ra|/wn manqa/nw o(ti legois a)/n. tou=s de\ th=s a)gora=s fu/lakas ai)tou=. oi( dh\ oi(/oi t' ei)si/ soi boh/qein. e)a\n to\ ,,font-size: ...
by nefercheprure
Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:00 am
Forum: The Agora
Topic: peira/zwmen gra/phein e)n th^ E(llh/nika A)rchei/a
Replies: 18
Views: 15028

ejkotynski wrote: kai\ ti/ shmai/nei "tw)lhte\s"; e)nnoei=s "tw)lhqe\s";
eu)= oi)=sqa a(/tta le/goimi a)/n.

a)pole/gw tw=n xeirw=n a(martousw=n.
N.
by nefercheprure
Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:07 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: peira/zwmen gra/phein e)n th^ E(llh/nika A)rchei/a
Replies: 18
Views: 15028

Neferxeprourh tw=| )Edi xai/rein. a)=r' e)cesti/ moi e)rrwta=n ti; ti/ ou=n shmai/nei to\ ,,paraqou=mai''; a)=ra se/ tis e)piti/qetai; a)=ra tis qa=tton dra/mei h)= su/; kai\ ei) e)neno/hsas, ti/ e)poi/hsas; a)=r' e)/laqes fobou/menos; a)=r' e)gela/sas e)/dws a(/tta ei)=pon; fanero\n dh/ soi Edward ...
by nefercheprure
Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:46 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: peira/zwmen gra/phein e)n th^ E(llh/nika A)rchei/a
Replies: 18
Views: 15028

Re: paraqou=mai, Neferxeprourh Vaenrh

νεφερξηεπρυρε εδι χαίρειν χαλεπὸς δὴ τονόσεων χρῆσθαι, κἀγὼ δ’ ἁμαρτάνω πολύ. πρέπει γὰρ τοῖς μαθηταῖς τὰ χαλεπὰ πόνειν, χαλεπῷ ἄρα τῷ πόνῷ ἑαυτοὺς παιδευουσι. οὐκ εἶπον ἐσὺ τόνοσιν ἄγνωναι, φανερὸς δέ, ὅτι ἀληθῶς τούτων οἶσθα χρώμενος. ἀλλὰ δεῖ μοι διδάσκειν σε περὶ τὸν ,,βητα‐κωδε’’. προσήκει γὰρ ...
by nefercheprure
Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:00 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: peira/zwmen gra/phein e)n th^ E(llh/nika A)rchei/a
Replies: 18
Views: 15028

τις μὲν τὴν τόνωσιν οὐκ εἰδώς νομίζει ταύτην ἀθέτην τῶν δ’ ἄλλων αὕτη βοήθει.