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by Lina
Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:42 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Lucian's The Ass translation
Replies: 4
Views: 2324

Re: Lucian's The a** translation

It looks like the title of the book alerted a censor function on this forum software.

Link to the book to which I'm referring:
http://www.alibris.com/search/books/isbn/9780983222828
by Lina
Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:04 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Lucian's The Ass translation
Replies: 4
Views: 2324

Lucian's The Ass translation

Can anyone help me with this? ὁ δὲ οἷον εἰκὸς ὁρων ἐμὲ κτῆμα παράδοξον τὴν μὲν τιμὴν τὴν ἐμὴν κελεύει τῶν διοικητῶν τινι καταβαλεῖν τῷ ἐμὲ ὠνασαμένῳ καὶ ἄλλο τοσοῦτον... My attempt: "He, as you would expect, seeing me (to be)an incredible possession, and my value, ordered (them) to pay to the one of...
by Lina
Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:29 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Transitional Readers: Anyone familiar with this series?
Replies: 1
Views: 1214

Transitional Readers: Anyone familiar with this series?

Hi all, I just found a couple of books on Amazon: Homer: a transitional reader and Plato: a transitional reader . It looks like the books might provide some useful background knowledge and vocabulary building for these authors. There are no reviews on Amazon yet. Has anyone here purchased these book...
by Lina
Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:35 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Lucian problem
Replies: 2
Views: 1236

Re: Lucian problem

Thanks for your help.
by Lina
Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:59 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Lucian problem
Replies: 2
Views: 1236

Lucian problem

αἰτία δέ μοι τῆς ἀποδημίας καὶ ὑπόθεσις ἡ τῆς διανοίας περιεργία καὶ πραγμάτων καινῶν ἐπιθυμία καὶ... Hi all, I'm reading Lucian's True Story. The meaning of this phrase eludes me: καὶ ὑπόθεσις ἡ τῆς διανοίας περιεργία The book defines περιεργία as "officiousness", which does not make sense to me. A...
by Lina
Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:11 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Quote from Thucydides on Harmodius and Aristogiton
Replies: 1
Views: 1188

Quote from Thucydides on Harmodius and Aristogiton

57. καὶ ὡς ἐπῆλθεν ἡ ἑορτή, Ἱππίας μὲν ἔξω ἐν τῷ Κεραμεικῷ καλουμένῳ μετὰ τῶν δορυφόρων διεκόσμει ὡς ἕκαστα ἐχρῆν τῆς πομπῆς προϊέναι... Hi all, In the above quote, ἕκαστα is listed as a singular, feminine, nominative doric aeolic adjective. At least, that is what has the most votes on Perseus Proje...
by Lina
Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:21 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Thucydides question
Replies: 2
Views: 1126

Re: Thucydides question

Thanks, Irene...I was really stumped by that one!
by Lina
Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:39 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Thucydides question
Replies: 2
Views: 1126

Thucydides question

Hi all, I have a question from a reading out of Greek Unseen Translation (the assassination of Hipparchus by Aristogiton and Harmodius). Thucydides 6:57 ...καὶ ὥσπερ εἶχον ὥρμησαν ἔσω τῶν πυλῶν, καὶ περιέτυχον τῷ Ἱππάρχῳ παρὰ τὸ Λεωκόρειον καλούμενον, καὶ εὐθὺς ἀπερισκέπτως προσπεσόντες...ἔτυπτον κα...
by Lina
Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:44 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Harry Potter Ancient Greek - which dialect?
Replies: 7
Views: 4944

Re: Harry Potter Ancient Greek - which dialect?

Hi all, I didn't even think to check Amazon UK. I just assumed that the price was about to go up everywhere when it suddenly went up on the Amazon US site (apparently a completely false assumption). I was worried I wouldn't be able to find an affordable copy if I waited. As for collecting ancient Gr...
by Lina
Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:15 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Harry Potter Ancient Greek - which dialect?
Replies: 7
Views: 4944

Re: Harry Potter Ancient Greek - which dialect?

I purchased this book quickly from an online book company after I saw the price on U.S. Amazon go up to $100.00. The bookseller I found was still selling for a reasonable price. It's really a cute little book. I am not ready to read it yet (I have other books I'm working on now), but I found the tra...
by Lina
Tue May 25, 2010 3:55 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: xraomai
Replies: 2
Views: 1122

Re: xraomai

Hi Irene,

Thank you for the link and the advice! Very helpful. I did not realize that the Perseus Project had the Middle Liddell, either. I have thought of buying it, but I do not want to lug it around with me, so I'm glad there's an online option.

Thanks,
Lina
by Lina
Sat May 22, 2010 7:20 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: xraomai
Replies: 2
Views: 1122

xraomai

Hi all, Athenaze defines xraomai as "I use, enjoy, consult (an oracle). However, I am reading a passage from Arrian's Anabasis (V19.1-3; from a book called "Greek Unseen Translation"), and I'm finding that xraomai seems to have a lot of shades of meaning that seem more like "treat (someone in a cert...
by Lina
Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:59 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: a few more chapters to go.
Replies: 6
Views: 2256

Re: a few more chapters to go.

Hi gigas, As far as going through Athenaze I twice. I initially purchased the Athenaze I book and started going through it, and not particularly carefully, by the way. When I got to about chapter 8, my car was broken into, and lawless bandits robbed me of the backpack in which I kept the Athenaze bo...
by Lina
Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:40 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: a few more chapters to go.
Replies: 6
Views: 2256

Re: a few more chapters to go.

I am finishing my second pass through Athenaze II. As stated by others here, it is much harder. It's almost like the authors ended Athenaze I, and went into a slight panic when they looked at what they had covered so far, and threw everything but the kitchen sink into the next book. I have absolutel...
by Lina
Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:06 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Prepositions
Replies: 6
Views: 4615

Re: Prepositions

In Athenaze, the text I use, I went through the list of prepositions and tried to get some sense of what I was dealing with. 19 prepositions used one case. 3 prepositions used 2 cases, with the case determining one or more possible meanings of the preposition. 5 prepositions used 3 cases, with the c...
by Lina
Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:31 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Schoder and Horrigan
Replies: 6
Views: 2601

Re: Schoder and Horrigan

Thank you, modus.irrealus.

There were some glowing reviews of the Draper book on Amazon and it appears to be exactly what I was looking for!
by Lina
Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:23 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Schoder and Horrigan
Replies: 6
Views: 2601

Re: Schoder and Horrigan

I've been considering getting the revised "Reading Course in Homeric Greek" (3rd Ed.) I've gone through Athenaze, books I and II. How different is Homeric greek for a person who has already gone through an Attic grammar? Take your IQ, subtract 30 points and that's probably my IQ. Horrible memory. An...
by Lina
Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:04 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Lucian's "Vera Historia"
Replies: 1
Views: 1567

Lucian's "Vera Historia"

Hi all, I'm still reading Nairn's "Greek Through Reading" anthology. Right now, I'm reading some excerpts from Lucian: "Voyage to the Moon" and "Sea Monsters" from Vera Historia. These are downright bizarre little excerpts that seem to feature islands floating in space and men flying on vultures. Ha...
by Lina
Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:42 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Phocylides
Replies: 7
Views: 3202

Re: Phocylides

Thanks! To me that phrase looked like: “on one hand this one is not, on the other hand, this one is not”, which made no sense. I read all those quotes in a 1974 edition of J.A. Nairn’s “Greek Through Reading”, a little book of easy readings divided by topic, so that “…by much early reading of good a...
by Lina
Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:13 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Phocylides
Replies: 7
Views: 3202

Re: Phocylides

OK. Thanks, that is very helpful. οὐχ ὁ μέν, ὃς δ’ οὐ...is that an idiomatic phrase? I'm not really getting it. I cannot figure out why Nairn put a weird, insulting little poem about Germans in his reader, or what the Phocylides quote has to do with Greek mythology, but I'm sure it made some sort of...
by Lina
Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:48 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Phocylides
Replies: 7
Views: 3202

Phocylides

Would anyone be willing to translate this saying by Phocylides for me? Και τοδε Φωκυλιδεω: Λεριοι κακοι, ουχ ο μεν, ος δ’ ου, παντες, πλην Προκλεους, και Προκλεης Λεριος. Another related one: Παντες μεν Κιλικες κακοι ανερες, εν δε Κιλιξιν εις αγαθος Κινυρης, και κινυρης δε Κιλιξ. And here's a relate...
by Lina
Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:25 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: NT text from Athenaze
Replies: 2
Views: 1192

NT text from Athenaze

No accents, sorry. I am curious about interpretation of the below passage. Ταυτην εποιησεν αρχην των σημειων ο Ιησους εν Κανα της Γαλιλαιας και εφανερωσεν την δουξαν αυτου… Is there anything in the way this is written that distinguishes whether this was: 1. The beginning/first of Jesus’ signs and he...
by Lina
Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:34 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Vocabulary acquisition
Replies: 7
Views: 3306

Re: Vocabulary acquisition

Thanks for the tips. I'm getting better about inferring meanings of words from context, but I still compulsively look everything up, because what if I'm wrong? For a short, say 100 word passage from Nairn/Colson/Morice, I'm looking up 10-20 words. Whether this is normal, I don't know. I found this l...
by Lina
Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:28 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Vocabulary acquisition
Replies: 7
Views: 3306

Vocabulary acquisition

Hi, I need some advice. As I begin to use readers and anthologies, what is the best way to decide which unknown vocabulary words to commit to memory? I feel that for each reading that I do, I should try to pick up a certain number of new words, but it can be very difficult to decide which to learn. ...
by Lina
Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:23 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Cebes Tablet passage
Replies: 3
Views: 1619

Re: Cebes Tablet passage

Hi annis, Cebes Tablet is used for all the readings in the Athenaze II workbook, and seems to cover a good chunk of the text. Actually, it was kind of an abrupt change to go from the Athenaze I workbook with the readings all produced by the authors, to the Cebes Tablet readings. But as you said in y...
by Lina
Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:35 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Cebes Tablet passage
Replies: 3
Views: 1619

Cebes Tablet passage

Hi all, This is from Cebes Tablet XXIV (Athenaze workbook exercise 29α (no accents, lazy): Τουτο δε πασχουσι δια το μη δυνασθαι την ενθαδε οδον ευρειν. Επελαθαντο γαρ το παρα του Δαιμονιου προσταγμα. My question is about the term Δαιμονιου which Athenaze defines as “spirit, god, the power controllin...
by Lina
Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:49 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Easy/Graded Attic Greek reader?
Replies: 23
Views: 19644

Re: Easy/Graded Attic Greek reader?

Thanks for all your suggestions. Maybe I'll buy more than one book...hmm.
by Lina
Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:12 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Easy/Graded Attic Greek reader?
Replies: 23
Views: 19644

Re: Easy/Graded Attic Greek reader?

Since we're talking about Morice's stories... I'm going to finish Athenaze II pretty soon, and I want to buy myself a little gift as a reward. From me to me! I have been very interested in getting Morice's stories, because it looks really entertaining and has big, good-looking text font. I have high...
by Lina
Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:27 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Question about a reading
Replies: 3
Views: 1230

Re: Question about a reading

Thanks for the responses. Yes, modus.irrealis, that was the problem. I couldn't figure out what the οἱ was supposed to be, and was embarrassed to ask. Now that you explained it, I just googled reflexive pronouns, and it is listed an "indirect reflexive pronoun". Maybe that's an advanced topic, becau...
by Lina
Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:44 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Question about a reading
Replies: 3
Views: 1230

Question about a reading

I am working on the reading from Athenaze 27b. I'm hoping someone can help me with a few points. My own humble attempt at translation is below the greek text. Κῦρος δὲ αὐτίκα ἀπελαύνοντος Κροίσου μετὰ τὴν μάχην τὴν γενομενην ἐν τῇ Πτερίῃ , And Cyrus, as Croesus was at once marching away after the ba...
by Lina
Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:43 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Reading Greek: Text and Vocabulary vs. Athenaze
Replies: 5
Views: 5947

Re: Reading Greek: Text and Vocabulary vs. Athenaze

I'll finish Athenaze II this summer, and I'm looking to review material and add some vocabulary. I'm tempted to try JACT for review, especially if the new edition is pretty and well-laid out. Can anyone around here compare the difficulty, coverage, layout and so forth of the new JACT books with Athe...
by Lina
Sun May 31, 2009 10:26 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Herodotus
Replies: 2
Views: 1142

Herodotus

Hi, This passage is from Athenaze 25β, and is a from a reading from Herodotus 1.32-33. Croesus has been trying to get Solon to proclaim him the most fortunate of men, and Solon has been insisting that fortunes change and a noble death is best of all. Ο Σολων ταυτα λεγων Solon, saying these things, τ...
by Lina
Fri May 08, 2009 5:55 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Athenaze Book II Translations
Replies: 6
Views: 15578

Re: Athenaze Book II Translations

I'm not sure why they guard the Teacher's Edition for Athenaze 2 so closely, but I couldn't get Oxford Press to sell me one, even though I work at a school. They wanted me to prove the course name/number that I would be teaching with it, and, when I admitted it was for self-study, they turned me dow...
by Lina
Tue May 05, 2009 4:27 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Question about Plato passage
Replies: 11
Views: 2896

Re: Question about Plato passage

Thanks once again for helping with that sentence.

Strangely, if I cut and paste the text that has the little boxes to my Word program, I can see the accents, but here, I can only see the unaccented letters. I guess I'll have to play with the settings.
by Lina
Sun May 03, 2009 8:20 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Anyone using Dobson's Learn New Testament Greek?
Replies: 5
Views: 10703

Re: Anyone using Dobson's Learn New Testament Greek?

I used Dobson's book early on. Nice, gentle introduction. The best assessment (for the beginner) of various Greek books I have found is on this webpage: http://www.pocm.info/good_books_read_greek.htm Scroll about halfway down the page and read carefully the comments about the pros and cons of Dobson...
by Lina
Sun May 03, 2009 4:45 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Question about Plato passage
Replies: 11
Views: 2896

Re: Question about Plato passage

Hi all, Thanks for your responses. They really helped. 1. As far as "εις διδασκαλων", this was the form the book gave me, but whether the book made a typo, I could not say. 2. When people write responses, I often see little boxes in place of certain greek vowels. Do I need to do something to my sett...
by Lina
Sat May 02, 2009 2:15 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Question about Plato passage
Replies: 11
Views: 2896

Question about Plato passage

Hi all, I have been working on a Plato passage from Athenaze, Chapter 24b. It is from "Protagoras" 325d8: Μετα δε ταυτα εις διδασκαλων πεμποντες πολυ μαλλον τους διδασκαλους κελευουσιν επιμελεισθαι ευκοσμιας των παιδων η γραμματων τε και κιθαρισεως. My translation: Μετα δε ταυτα "After these things"...
by Lina
Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:02 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Textbook versus authentic greek
Replies: 11
Views: 3678

Re: Textbook versus authentic greek

Thanks for your further comments. I will incorporate your suggestions into my study routine. I appreciate the helpfulness of people on this forum! Thesaurus wrote You can tell by the non-linear style of reading that this method cultivates that it does not resemble "reading" as we think of it in mode...
by Lina
Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:52 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Textbook versus authentic greek
Replies: 11
Views: 3678

Re: Textbook versus authentic greek

Thanks, all, for your responses. I'm relieved to hear that Thucydides is a hard author, and it's not just me. It doesn't take much adversity for my morale to suffer. I wonder what possessed the Athenaze authors to stick him in where they did? Jean K., you must be nearly finished by now with Athenaze...
by Lina
Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:21 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Textbook versus authentic greek
Replies: 11
Views: 3678

Textbook versus authentic greek

Hi, I just moved on to Athenaze, Chapter 21β. The chapter reading is Thucydides 1.140-46, Pericles' speech to the assembly. Usually, I do fairly well with the readings as long as I have learned the vocabulary. Up until now, most readings have been concocted by the Athenaze authors, although some hav...