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by loqu
Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:52 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Differentiating between 2nd and 3rd declension with Spanish
Replies: 5
Views: 2101

Re: Differentiating between 2nd and 3rd declension with Spanish

yes, but ración is a cultism, being razón the patrimonial word. Just like we have two words from collocare, the cultism colocar and the patrimonial word colgar.
by loqu
Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:28 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Differentiating between 2nd and 3rd declension with Spanish
Replies: 5
Views: 2101

Re: Differentiating between 2nd and 3rd declension with Spanish

yeah that's what makes us Spanish speakers make so many mistakes between 2nd and 4th conjugations (I guess what confused us 1800 years ago still confuses us now). Same with those horrible 3rd declension -us nouns, we turned them to regular 2nd declension ones: tiempo: plural tiempos (not tiémpora or...
by loqu
Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:27 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Transcribing latin reader
Replies: 4
Views: 1434

Re: Transcribing latin reader

This is great! Thanks, Hampie !
by loqu
Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:05 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin syntax. Syntaxis Latina.
Replies: 2
Views: 1445

Re: Latin syntax. Syntaxis Latina.

Latin syntax is so hard for me. even though I know like 80-90 percent of the words, (gratias hispanicae meae studioque) I don't even understand the sentence because the syntax is so hard. Anyone know how I can overcome this? I'd say paying close attention to the declension suffixes so that you can ...
by loqu
Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:36 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: ablative and use of ab / a or without any preposition
Replies: 14
Views: 9371

Re: ablative and use of ab / a or without any preposition

But I suppose 'I fear him' and 'I am feared by him' does it....so perhaps I'm over analysing it. The trouble is that English idiom doesn't maintain the distinction. you rely too much on English translation. LLPSI was not made to learn by translating everything. Just forget the 'I'm afraid of' thing...
by loqu
Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:32 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Use of tanta and tantum
Replies: 5
Views: 2984

Re: Use of tanta and tantum

If I'm not wrong (and I may be), in that sentence 'tanta' works as an indefinite adjective. Thus it must agree with the noun it determines (gemma): tanta gemma sola constat LXXX sestertiis. I don't know how to translate it properly into English (not a native speaker), but it's along the idea of "suc...
by loqu
Wed May 26, 2010 8:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is there such a word as 'retroversa'?
Replies: 8
Views: 2061

Re: Is there such a word as 'retroversa'?

I can figure out adjectivum and adverbium, but what does salve aterutimber mean? also retroversa seems to show up in several scientific names, what does it mean? sorry, I answered just before you edited your message (I also forgot to translate 'salve', = 'hello'). I guess adrianus tried to imply re...
by loqu
Wed May 26, 2010 8:22 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is there such a word as 'retroversa'?
Replies: 8
Views: 2061

Re: Is there such a word as 'retroversa'?

DARKastheRAIN wrote:I can figure out adjectivum and adverbium, but what does salve aterutimber mean?
Ater ut imber... dark as the rain :D
by loqu
Wed May 26, 2010 8:21 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Hello! A question about relative clauses
Replies: 5
Views: 1352

Re: Hello! A question about relative clauses

Hi Eandir, welcome :) I'm just a beginner, but I'll try to answer your questions. If I'm wrong, please guys correct me. Haec est civitas ubi vivo. I've seen ubi used in these situations before so I'd say it's fully OK. I can't answer about the other one. Dies cum venit ? I'd say so, but I may be wro...
by loqu
Tue May 25, 2010 3:27 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is active timet same as passive timetur in meaning
Replies: 6
Views: 2736

Re: Is active timet same as passive timetur in meaning

Hmmm... I just think you should understand the meaning without translating it literally. If you can't make a passive (because the verb may be intransitive), just make an active swapping the subject and the object. I mean, the meaning indeed is: "Bad servants are afraid of the master, but the master ...
by loqu
Thu May 20, 2010 10:10 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Grex Latine Loquentium
Replies: 48
Views: 20809

Re: Grex Latine Loquentium

You're aware that the world is not only Britain and not all classicists are right wing, aren't you?
by loqu
Wed May 19, 2010 2:41 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latinum Update
Replies: 19
Views: 6362

Re: Latinum Update

metrodorus wrote:interestingly, Iran is one of them
why does that surprise you but not India, China or Israel?
by loqu
Wed May 19, 2010 8:13 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Survey of Latin orthography preferences
Replies: 65
Views: 17964

Re: Survey of Latin orthography preferences

I agree that it's about preferences and not about objectivity. I'm not a scholar, just a learner for fun, and I don't care if j has been used for X years now, I find it aesthetically ugly. I don't like the ae ligature either. Both look too ecclesiastical to me, don't ask why. About the stress marks,...
by loqu
Tue May 18, 2010 12:06 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Survey of Latin orthography preferences
Replies: 65
Views: 17964

Re: Survey of Latin orthography preferences

survey answered and sent --- I am OK with macrons and capitalization, but I really hate the J in Latin. I'm OK with V and without V, though.
by loqu
Tue May 18, 2010 11:33 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Grex Latine Loquentium
Replies: 48
Views: 20809

Re: Grex Latine Loquentium

I find your generalization really unlucky and inadequate. How can you say that Rome was extreme right wing? Considering Roman and Greek culture valuable and admiring them, doesn't necessarily imply thinking of them as superior to other cultures. I speak for myself and am sure that a lot of people th...
by loqu
Fri May 14, 2010 7:16 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: 'puella' singularis est
Replies: 9
Views: 3670

Re: 'puella' singularis est

The neutrum of 'singularis' is not 'singularum' but 'singulare'.

Anyway I'm guessing the whole sentence would be puella (numerus) singularis est, meaning that the word puella is singular in number.
by loqu
Fri May 14, 2010 6:11 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Iuvate me, vos amabo!
Replies: 9
Views: 2500

Re: Iuvate me, vos amabo!

Quis ut Deus wrote:Hoc conceptum "crash" in tempore Romanorum fuit?
Romani aeroplanos non habebant, sed naves ac currus ita collidere potebant. :)
by loqu
Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:53 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Pronuntatio hispanici Latini: Auxilium Rogo
Replies: 1
Views: 1086

Re: Pronuntatio hispanici Latini: Auxilium Rogo

Latin classes in high schools in Spain (AFAIK) teach the classical pronounciation and this includes stress: if the penultimate syllable has a short vowel, the word is proparoxytone; otherwise it's paroxytone.

Don't know about Latin America though.
by loqu
Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:35 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Roman Religion books
Replies: 1
Views: 1019

Roman Religion books

Hi, I'm deeply interested in Roman religion. I know there are several sources and I have seen several books in the bookstore, but sadly most of what I can find are "mythology dictionaries", which only speak of the gods and goddesses in a row and don't relate them or group them. So I'm searching for ...
by loqu
Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:30 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Does someone know Italian?
Replies: 2
Views: 1315

Re: Does someone know Italian?

Anyone know Italian. I'm not a native but can understand it pretty well, this is my version (my English is not that good, though). This letter is to inform you that we still await for the goods (the product), according to your order A470178E on 28.1.2009 from the supplier. We remind you that you wi...
by loqu
Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:25 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Grammar question please.
Replies: 14
Views: 4164

Re: Grammar question please.

What about consonantic stems?
by loqu
Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:41 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin book recommendations sought
Replies: 5
Views: 1530

Re: Latin book recommendations sought

Thank you very much. That first book you link seems pretty appropriate, I think I'm going for it. A compilation of original texts is always better than an adapted one, in my opinion. :)
by loqu
Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin translation. please check.
Replies: 8
Views: 4974

Re: Latin translation. please check.

That use of "tui" really puzzles me. Why not simply the possessive adjective, "tuam"?
by loqu
Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:38 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin book recommendations sought
Replies: 5
Views: 1530

Re: Latin book recommendations sought

Hi, I dig up this old thread to ask about Latin books that are suitable for learners. I have finished successfully Lingua Latina: Familia Romana and I'd like to know which books or authors aren't very difficult to read and understand. I know there are special adaptations like the ones Orberg publish...
by loqu
Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:14 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Order of cases?
Replies: 36
Views: 27526

Re: Order of cases?

Ioqu, do you think that the reason that the Nominative and Vocative in your case are written next to each other is because their forms are generally the same? Or did you learn them that way because that was how you wanted to learn them? Jack I did not decide the order, it was the one written on my ...
by loqu
Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:08 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Order of cases?
Replies: 36
Views: 27526

Re: Order of cases?

I learnt the Latin declensions with this order:

Nom. Voc. Acc. Gen. Dat. Abl.

Some books use the other order and then I get confused.
by loqu
Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:43 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Poll: How do you like Lingua Latina?
Replies: 4
Views: 1490

Re: Poll: How do you like Lingua Latina?

I'm not even on high school but I love it. May I vote?
by loqu
Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:09 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Recommended Dictionary?
Replies: 6
Views: 1418

Re: Recommended Dictionary?

I have Cassell's. It is good. 9 times out of 10, though, I find myself using the Words program or the Bantam New College Dictionary (light and paperback). Oxford has a large print dictionary that my eyes would love to own. http://www.amazon.com/Bantam-College-English-Dictionary-Revised/dp/055359012...
by loqu
Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:01 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Why does inflection always die?
Replies: 25
Views: 9873

Re: Why does inflection always die?

My own theory is that this is due to the fact that Ancient Indo-European languages do inflection in as complicated a way as possible, with e.g. the same case being realized by different endings for different nouns, case and number being mixed together in nouns, lots of suppletion. You can compare t...
by loqu
Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:00 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Of an Adjective for the Word "State"
Replies: 20
Views: 6507

well this discussion is going to lead to nowhere productive, but still, if noone uses America to refer to the continent, what do you call people coming from countries south to Panama? Because a South American would be a Texan, isn't it? I'm no native English speaker so that's maybe why I can't see h...
by loqu
Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:37 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Of an Adjective for the Word "State"
Replies: 20
Views: 6507

Re: Of an Adjective for the Word "State"

If you don't want to call Americans Americans, how is something based on "United States" any better when you have the Estados Unidos Mexicanos? But noone calls Mexico that except for official purposes. However, the United States are internationally known by that name, United States. That is not amb...
by loqu
Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:20 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: der Roman
Replies: 14
Views: 4296

Estoniacus Inoriginale wrote:Well, wikipedia:
Voiceless alveolar affricate (/ts/): represented by the letter ç.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Spanish
Same I said in the previous post.
by loqu
Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:14 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: der Roman
Replies: 14
Views: 4296

I never meant that it had the same sound as in Eastern Romance (that is obvious), but 'ts' sounds too strange to me.

'Ts' sound was never the sound of c in Old Spanish (don't know about French). It was rather the sound of ç, not the same letter.
by loqu
Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:09 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: der Roman
Replies: 14
Views: 4296

That [ts] cluster for 'c' sounds me too Germanic or Slavic... but I may be wrong.
by loqu
Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:25 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Lingva Latina
Replies: 23
Views: 9095

Wow, that is quite an achievement, well done! Well, there's probably no point in me getting carried away with the other volumes of Lingua Latina just yet; the first weighty tome still hasn't arrived yet. I've got to work memorising the noun declination tables; they're a little more extensive than t...
by loqu
Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:15 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Lingva Latina
Replies: 23
Views: 9095

I'm not offended at all by the fact that you correct my English; on the contrary, I'm thankful. It's been so long since I stopped studying it that it has gone broken, but I hope I'm still understandable :)

When I finally learn Latin properly I won't need English anymore. :lol:
by loqu
Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:17 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Lingva Latina
Replies: 23
Views: 9095

Oh I think we share the point of view :) in fact I began to study Latin not so much to understand, but rather to produce, written or spoken. That's why I chose LL (I find it a very natural way to learn, and I have read the students of the schools where it's used are able to build senseful texts), ev...
by loqu
Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:40 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Lingva Latina
Replies: 23
Views: 9095

Right. I'm going to see how it goes to start with without one; being at university, I'm having to live on a tight budget. I will end up trying to write my own Latin, however that day is a long way off and Lingva Latina will be enough for now. How does the book explain cases endings and such? Is it ...
by loqu
Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:18 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Lingva Latina
Replies: 23
Views: 9095

It's always a good resource, but I'm not using it -- I only use it when trying to write something myself, for the exercises and all that.

For reading, I try to rely on context and it's not going too bad.
by loqu
Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:22 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: SUUS and somebody elses book
Replies: 17
Views: 4733

Benissimus is exactly right. When non-native speakers pick up a language in a natural setting (not a classroom) they usually simplify the language as much as possible and stamp out any irregularities... Spanish being a perfect example with it's loss of case endings, neuter gender, etc. The interest...