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by MarcusE
Mon May 11, 2009 8:50 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Silly question on passives
Replies: 4
Views: 1358

Re: Silly question on passives

OK, this makes sense. I just wanted to be sure that I wasn´t imagining a certain ambiguity there.

Thanks
by MarcusE
Sun May 10, 2009 8:38 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Silly question on passives
Replies: 4
Views: 1358

Silly question on passives

Janua clausa est

Is that to be translated as "the door was opened" and or "the door is open" or does it depend on the contect? How does latin distinguish present time states resulting from a past action and the past passive formed by past participle and present tense of esse?

Thanks

Marcus E
by MarcusE
Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:26 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Of an Adjective for the Word "State"
Replies: 20
Views: 6528

The term "American" is unambiguous in English simply because every native English speaker knows that it refers to a citizen of the US, illogical and "imprecise" though it may be. It may be ambiguous in other languages which may have their own ways of describing US citizens that are more accurate whi...
by MarcusE
Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:59 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Of an Adjective for the Word "State"
Replies: 20
Views: 6528

Interestingly, Spanish has a term "Estadounidense" which would be exactly what you were looking for if we were speaking Spanish. Like saying "United Statesian" It's a shame English has no such form. Ironically, Spanish speakers in latin america hardly use it in speech prefering to refer to citizens ...
by MarcusE
Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:04 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Lingva Latina
Replies: 23
Views: 9100

If you enjoy brute force memorization then I suppose you might enjoy the Dowling method Lucus refers to. I'm on chapter 30 of LL pars 1 and am thoroughly enjoy it. Most of my "latin time" is in bed, on the john and on my elliptical trainer and I have managed to make good progress. So far I have avoi...
by MarcusE
Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:38 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Learn to Read Latin
Replies: 5
Views: 7542

There's lots on Lingua Latina per se illustrata on this forum but I'm on chapter 30 now and it really is a masterpiece. I'm not saying it's the only thing you should use but it would be silly not to make this the centerpiece of latin learning if fluent reading is your goal.
by MarcusE
Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:53 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: SUUS and somebody elses book
Replies: 17
Views: 4741

This is certainly true in a general sense and well worth being reminded of and yet one of the really interesting things about language change is its degree of unpredictability - things get preserved that "should" have fallen away and vice versa. Do any of the romance langauges preserve this distinct...
by MarcusE
Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:11 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: SUUS and somebody elses book
Replies: 17
Views: 4741

This seems like such a useful distinction to be able to make that it makes me wonder why Spanish abandoned it. "Cicero le dio un regalo a su hija" could mean his daughter or somebody else's daughter.

I suppose my next step will have to be to try to bridge the gap between these two languages.
by MarcusE
Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:51 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Maureen Dowd in Latin today
Replies: 11
Views: 3269

Knowing Dowd's writing as I do, I'm pretty sure all the silliness was intended, including "lunibus", since it sounds like "looney"
by MarcusE
Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:07 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Maureen Dowd in Latin today
Replies: 11
Views: 3269

Maureen Dowd in Latin today

Check out Maureen Dowd's column in Latin today at the NY Times website.

It's a hoot!
by MarcusE
Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:08 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Drill (n) = terebras?
Replies: 17
Views: 7615

correct of course, I should know better, so why isn't fecit in the imperfect? The imperfect denotes continuous action, which may not be appropriate for describing the general function of an enterprise. Here the imperfect quae terebras facebat would mean they were making drills at that very moment--...
by MarcusE
Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:21 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Drill (n) = terebras?
Replies: 17
Views: 7615

...so why isn't fecit in the imperfect? That's a good question, MarcusE. Maybe this is the answer... Benè roges, MarcusE. Fortassè responsum est ità... The Perfect is sometimes used of a general truth , especially with negatives ( Gnomic Perfect ): qui studet contingere metam multa tulit fecit q...
by MarcusE
Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:13 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Drill (n) = terebras?
Replies: 17
Views: 7615

'praeerat' is not pluperfect, it is imperfective preterite, the present is 'praesum' correct of course, I should know better, so why isn't fecit in the imperfect? it would for example be a little odd in Spanish to say "administraba una empresa que frabrico taladros" it would be "fabricaba taladros"
by MarcusE
Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:07 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Drill (n) = terebras?
Replies: 17
Views: 7615

is this book approachable after LLPSI I?
by MarcusE
Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:00 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronoums positioning
Replies: 27
Views: 12488

An hour spent doing grammar excersizes backwards and forwards is an hour that might have been spent actually acquiring latin the only way possible - through comprehensible input, whether by reading Orberg or any other graded reading material. Grammar excersizes can be satisfying to do in their own r...
by MarcusE
Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:56 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lingua Latina Blues
Replies: 6
Views: 2009

I just started that chapter myself last night while reading in bed. I'm hoping the years I've spent wrestling with the Spanish subjunctive will help me out here though I can see already that it's a bit different from the Spanish. So I too am interested in the response to this.
by MarcusE
Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:17 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How in the world do you pronounce this?
Replies: 8
Views: 3422

Is it reasonable to suppose that with words ending in a short o in latin, the o is pronounced like in words ending in o in spanish? In spanish with words like gato, pero, etc. The final o is quite short with little aspiration, not at all like the way English speakers would say Bilbo or bimbo, where ...
by MarcusE
Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:47 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: The vocative of MEUS
Replies: 9
Views: 2925

or more literally,

Cenabis (you will dine) bene (well) mi Fabulle (my Fabullus) apud me (with me)
by MarcusE
Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:49 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Traditional Pronunciation of Latin in Spain
Replies: 24
Views: 13928

Re: H aspiration.

I vary it, although, Spanish speakers shouln't aspirate the h in Latin as it is in the Spanish letter j. That would be weird. I've heard some do it, thusly taking away the authenticity, while the rest of the pronunciation would be flawless. It is quite certain that in speech, especially if one was ...
by MarcusE
Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:02 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Summer Latin lectures
Replies: 22
Views: 5646

Good point!
by MarcusE
Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:34 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Summer Latin lectures
Replies: 22
Views: 5646

I'm just on chapter 21 of LL pars I and I'm enjoying it quite a lot but I can see that from the point of view of modern language acquisition theory the series should be three times longer, that is the new grammar and vocab should be spread of the 3 times as much text. You can climb just as high when...
by MarcusE
Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:50 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Traditional Pronunciation of Latin in Spain
Replies: 24
Views: 13928

I was just curious whether or not the classical pronunciation had caught on since the Italians stick with pronouncing it like Italian from what I understand. Also, I have always thought it interesting that in Spanish, names of ancient Romans are always translated into their modern Spanish equivalent...
by MarcusE
Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:56 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Traditional Pronunciation of Latin in Spain
Replies: 24
Views: 13928

Thanks!
by MarcusE
Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:36 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How do you/did you work with LL?
Replies: 9
Views: 2974

I'm on chapter 15 and so far I'm just reading and rereading, keeping it enjoyable, no "work". I also read and reread the separate stories in the Colloquia Personarum and the free downloadable Fabulae as I go through the book and I also casually review the grammar sections at the ends of the chapters...
by MarcusE
Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:23 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lingua Latina College Companion Book
Replies: 6
Views: 2677

I've got a copy of Wheelocks and the English Latin vocab list for LL so it might be redundant to get another book. This is my second time through LL, the first time was some years ago and I remember that some extra grammar explanation will be useful especially in later chapters.
by MarcusE
Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:53 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lingua Latina College Companion Book
Replies: 6
Views: 2677

Thanks
by MarcusE
Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:59 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lingua Latina College Companion Book
Replies: 6
Views: 2677

Lingua Latina College Companion Book

I was curious if anyone is using the college companion book for the Lingua Latina Pars I. Is it worth the $25? Any comments? I'm enjoying Lingua Latina but some straight forward grammar discussion in English would be nice without having to rummage on other grammars for the point I'm looking for. Als...
by MarcusE
Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:13 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Traditional Pronunciation of Latin in Spain
Replies: 24
Views: 13928

Traditional Pronunciation of Latin in Spain

Can one of the Spanish native speakers tell me what is the traditional pronunciation of Latin in Spanish-speaking countries? Is it to pronounce it as if it were Spanish? Is the long/short vowel distinction observed? How common is the classical pronunciation in schools and universities today? Thanks.
by MarcusE
Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:09 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Whilst I do indeed love Latin...
Replies: 27
Views: 6424

Well, I didn't actually say I can read Spanish as fluently as I read English. I certainly don't. I did say I can read Spanish in the same way that I read English - left to right, directly for meaning. And it wasn't always that way. It took a bit of time to stop reading Spanish as if it were scramble...
by MarcusE
Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:47 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Whilst I do indeed love Latin...
Replies: 27
Views: 6424

Greetings to all on this forum! This is my first post (hopefully not the last). I'm early in my latin studies. I own both Wheelock and LL but plan to use LL mainly. I strongly second the suggestion by Metrodorus to read up on Krashen. No one should study a FL without an understanding of his Monitor/...