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by akhnaten
Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:52 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Anyone have Kalos language software?
Replies: 2
Views: 1430

Anyone have Kalos language software?

I still occasionally use the Kalos Greek software if I'm having trouble figuring out what verb form I'm looking at. Unfortunately, my computer died and the program is no longer hosted by the creator. Does anyone on the site have a copy of the program they can upload? Thanks for any help. For those t...
by akhnaten
Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:06 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Robertson's Grammar
Replies: 6
Views: 2540

Re: Robertson's Grammar

Markos . page 426 on Paratactic Sentences? Thank you for the recommendation. I owe you an immense amount of gratitude for the graded readings, particularly of Jonah and Revelations. Any textkit beginner in Biblical Greek not using that resource is doing him or herself a disservice, IMO. I remember ...
by akhnaten
Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:37 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Robertson's Grammar
Replies: 6
Views: 2540

Re: Robertson's Grammar

thanks for reply CS. It was the price of half a latte :oops: . I started Greek only after certain thrift store finds...a pocket edition Nestle-Aland NT ($1.50) and, days later, an 8 volume box of Platon's Werke ($10, dual language Greek/German in the Schleiermacher translation). (I took an intensive...
by akhnaten
Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:16 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Robertson's Grammar
Replies: 6
Views: 2540

Robertson's Grammar

I just picked up Robertson's Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research for a couple bucks at a thrift store. I'm a beginning/intermediate reader of NT Greek. Maybe someone here could offer a take on a couple questions. 1) Is any part of the book under academic scrutiny? ...
by akhnaten
Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:17 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Intermediate Greek readers Lucian
Replies: 6
Views: 2697

Re: Intermediate Greek readers Lucian

These are good editions, and I think they make for good transition texts for people who learned Koine and are now working their ways through Attic textbook. I was unaware of these PDFs, and had checked out Lucian's A True Story from the local uni a little while back. Thanks for the link.
by akhnaten
Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:37 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)
Replies: 30
Views: 13029

Re: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)

thank you for the responses. i've been backpacking, and i don't see my last message from ~24th on the forum. i may also be gone for 8-10 days 2nd week of sept. ---- οὐ μονον ... ἀλλὰ καὶ did seem extraordinarily simple, and i'm glad to see that it functions as such. one of these days, i'll read thro...
by akhnaten
Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:40 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)
Replies: 30
Views: 13029

Re: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)

thank you for note on literacy of authors about knowledge/usage of words with historically different (or nuanced) meanings. i think i've used the bauer lexicon for most words, then looked up a couple more through perseus and seen many lexicons. i'll pretty much always write vocab notes on a post-it ...
by akhnaten
Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:22 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)
Replies: 30
Views: 13029

Re: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)

thank you very much CS. i certainly subscribe to the idea that ambiguity is a benefit in the hands of many authors! in skilled hands, the ambiguity of language creates marvels and may express wonderful complexities. i was actually thinking of writing in the post that it very well could be a hermeneu...
by akhnaten
Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:37 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)
Replies: 30
Views: 13029

Re: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)

ok, thanks. i tend not to look too hard at accents in any language--i know from experience that they just become second-nature with enough reading and my brain identifies everything correctly. but i recently made a big mistake with an imperfect of 'to be', and decided to look a little harder at this...
by akhnaten
Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:14 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Romans 12:2 and the word kai
Replies: 6
Views: 3603

Re: Romans 12:2 and the word kai

Εἶ does not mean if , it is the 2nd person singular form of the verb εἰμί. If is not accentuated in Greek, because it is a proclitic. oh dear! thank you very much. i spent some time reviewing these rules...and will change my method of trying to find my mistakes (i'll take a closer look at accents!).
by akhnaten
Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:12 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)
Replies: 30
Views: 13029

Re: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)

can anyone explain why there is a grave accent on the final word in the phrase "μετὰ τοῦ πατρὸς" in 1 John 1:3? i expect πατρὸς
by akhnaten
Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:41 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Atehnaze Group?
Replies: 26
Views: 6082

Re: Atehnaze Group?

I'm little over 100 pages into Mastronarde now. As long as the grammar and morphology is introduced first in Mastronarde, I think I should be fine--sadly, that won't always be the case. I cannot make sense at all of the presentation in Athenaze on some topics. When I didn't know the alphabet, Athena...
by akhnaten
Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:01 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)
Replies: 30
Views: 13029

Re: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)

Hey There! I'm Mason, and have been very thankful of textkit since June. Without this site, my progress in Greek may have halted. I'm reading 1 John because I want to read Greek, real Greek, the Greek my heroes read (eh, I'll just name Friedrich Schleiermacher). I am halfway through Croy and Machen'...
by akhnaten
Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:40 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: 1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)
Replies: 30
Views: 13029

1 John Reading Group (Aug. - Oct.)

This first post may be edited a couple times in the next couple days. Welcome --this is a 1 John reading group that anyone is invited to participate in. I am hoping beginning readers can make use of this thread (now or in the future). Please treat novice questions with patience, and feel free to ind...
by akhnaten
Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:03 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Romans 12:2 and the word kai
Replies: 6
Views: 3603

Re: Romans 12:2 and the word kai

I was also having other difficulties with the word kai in Matt 22:16: This is excerpt from the verse given in Croy: Διδάσκαλε, οἴδαμεν ὅτι ἀληθὴς εἶ καὶ τὴν ὁδὸν τοῦ θεοῦ ἐν ἀληθείᾳ διδάσκεις. My attempt: O teacher, we know that you are true only if you teach the way of God in truth. New Oxford Anno...
by akhnaten
Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:05 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Koine to Attic Suggestions?
Replies: 6
Views: 2798

Re: Koine to Attic Suggestions?

Hey. I don't know what work or edition of Plato you're trying to read, but if it is straight-Greek with no commentary, that would be very hard. My first suggestion, I guess, would be to find the syllabi for 1st-3rd semester Greek at your uni, and see how comfortable you are with whatever Greek texts...
by akhnaten
Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:40 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Atehnaze Group?
Replies: 26
Views: 6082

Re: Atehnaze Group?

Thanks for taking this initiative. I will follow along for at least 4 weeks. I have worked through the first 4 chapters of Athenaze in early June, but found it hard going. I found the JACT/Athenaze textbooks were nice for presenting reading material (absent at early stages of Mastronarde and Hanson&...
by akhnaten
Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:32 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Athenaze Study Group - Week 1 - Lesson 1
Replies: 33
Views: 12212

Re: Athenaze Study Group - Week 1 - Lessons 1-2

Hello. I'll be reading along these first weeks...I have the pdf of 1st edition, revised. 2nd edition's book's at the local uni, so next time I'm at the library (Saturday), I'll check to see any major differences in the first few chapters.
by akhnaten
Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:15 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: comprehension check with 2 Cor 4:5
Replies: 3
Views: 2508

Re: comprehension check with 2 Cor 4:5

thank you. i was thinking that κηρύσσομεν and [we are] may both be implied in the last clause, but did not know a good way to translate it into English--and felt the simpler understanding, with only [we are] implied would, give the 'general' meaning. are there any 'clues' to identify this as 'indire...
by akhnaten
Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:32 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: comprehension check with 2 Cor 4:5
Replies: 3
Views: 2508

comprehension check with 2 Cor 4:5

Example from Croy. Only ἑαυτοὺς is glossed as "ourselves", all other vocab and forms are known. οὐ γὰρ ἑαυτοὺς κηρύσσομεν ἀλλὰ Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν κύριον, ἑαυτοὺς δὲ δούλους ὑμῶν διὰ Ἰησοῦν. (2 Cor 4:5) KJV: "For we preach not ourselves, but Jesus Christ the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' s...
by akhnaten
Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:09 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Williamowtiz-Mollendorff - Suggestions for a New Greek Reade
Replies: 4
Views: 2268

Re: Williamowtiz-Mollendorff - Suggestions for a New Greek R

the second part of the above article: SCHEME FOR A GREEK READER. I. — Tales. 1. Aesop's Life, chaps. l0, 12, 15, 22. Prototype of Owlglass, the Fables, and the Jest-books. 2. Lucian, True History, i. 30 — ii. 2. Adventure in the Whale's Belly. Prototype of Gulliner. 3. Dio. 7. The Euboean Hunter : s...
by akhnaten
Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:08 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Williamowtiz-Mollendorff - Suggestions for a New Greek Reade
Replies: 4
Views: 2268

Williamowtiz-Mollendorff - Suggestions for a New Greek Reade

Found this in the forum topic "Traditional 2nd Year Greek Text". Ulrich von Wilamowitz-Mollendorff made these and other selections in a short article for The Classical Review in 1907. I hope to type it up and submit it here in the near-future. Cheers, Tim I didn't see this on the forum, so I am thin...
by akhnaten
Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:45 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek Grammars
Replies: 18
Views: 7186

Re: Greek Grammars

i do have access to a nice academic library system when i get to a stage to begin looking at commentaries--i am all too aware of the expenses of academic publishing. my only enemy will be non-circulating reference designations (which applies to the local uni's smyth and liddell-scott). it is a relie...
by akhnaten
Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:11 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek Grammars
Replies: 18
Views: 7186

Re: Greek Grammars

some novice questions that can't be answered from amazon reviews! 1) is goodwin comparable to smyth as a general grammar? does Goodwin have benefits for a beginning student over Smyth? is the standard edition of Goodwin that edited by Gulick? 2) are there dialects not supported by one or both gramma...
by akhnaten
Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:19 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Anyone for Wilson&Vlachos 1st John Workbook starting 8/1/14
Replies: 4
Views: 2899

Re: Anyone for Wilson&Vlachos 1st John Workbook starting 8/1

Thank you for the recommendation on Culy's Handbook. From his preface and intro, I would also recommend Culy to those readers looking for lexical/grammatical/syntactical help. Theological commentary and considerations are secondary to Culy's handbook. It is considerably more thorough than Wilson and...
by akhnaten
Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:58 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Principal Parts of Verbs from Croy
Replies: 0
Views: 2347

Principal Parts of Verbs from Croy

Anyone using Croy will find that, when future and aorist tenses are introduced, stems are usually given only for the most common verbs. A number of verbs seen in Croy do not have their principal parts explicitly given, even in Croy's glossary. I think this is a huge flaw in the book, since memorizat...
by akhnaten
Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:18 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: question from Mastronarde Unit 11
Replies: 2
Views: 1280

Re: question from Mastronarde Unit 11

thank you for the full explanation. as you mentioned, ἔξεστι is not really passive in Greek, and that's why i didn't expect ὑπό + gen. the note on dative w/o preposition in perfect tense compared to others is much appreciated. i'll return to the thread once the perfect is introduced. thank you!
by akhnaten
Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:13 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: question from Mastronarde Unit 11
Replies: 2
Views: 1280

question from Mastronarde Unit 11

unit is on present/middle passive, but my question is about use of dative. Unit XI, Section III, Question 9: οὐκ ἔξεστι τοῖς παιδίοις τοῖς θεοῖς σπένδειν. I came up with two possible translations: 1) It is not permitted to the children to pour libations for the gods. 2) It is not permitted by the go...
by akhnaten
Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:43 am
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: More "leveled readings" of Greek texts
Replies: 23
Views: 29902

Re: More "leveled readings" of Greek texts

a note on the Croy Lesson 8 levelings--in the new edition of Croy, it seems likely the vocab has been a little rearranged. "if" and "to glorify" come a little later than unit 8 now. Shouldn't be a problem for anyone with the textbook though. Thanks again for these leveled readings. Jonah and the wri...
by akhnaten
Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:19 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: regularity of vowel and consonant shifts?
Replies: 4
Views: 2441

Re: regularity of vowel and consonant shifts?

thanks Qimmick. i appreciate the vocabulary you're using. i'm not trying to use the shifts for its predictive abilities (not trying to "guess" a future stem), but for recognition purposes. if this makes sense. When it comes to temporal augment, are the shifts common enough to throw in a flashcard? O...
by akhnaten
Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:14 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: regularity of vowel and consonant shifts?
Replies: 4
Views: 2441

regularity of vowel and consonant shifts?

I am memorizing vowel shifts in imp. ind. tenses (e+stem beginning in vowel), and labial/dental/palatal shifts in future act. and middle ind. Along with the pres. ind. tenses, that's all I know. From what I can tell, some/all of the spelling changes ease what could otherwise be an awkward pronunciat...
by akhnaten
Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:50 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Assistance with Croy Lesson 11
Replies: 6
Views: 3555

Re: Assistance with Croy Lesson 11

thank you for smyth #. i did find it myself--in future i will edit to make the post more useful for future readers. thank you very much for pointing out the difference between Harvard UP Smyth and other editions. I know how I work--I would have gone cheap (which means not a uni press)! Before the se...
by akhnaten
Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:45 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Anyone for Wilson&Vlachos 1st John Workbook starting 8/1/14
Replies: 4
Views: 2899

Re: Anyone for Wilson&Vlachos 1st John Workbook starting 8/1

I appreciate the response and recommendation C.S. . I will be getting a look at the text you mention this weekend, read some reviews, etc. If Culy is also suitable for beginning students (those with 1 year or less of Greek), I can reframe this as a more general "beginning/intermediate-level 1 John g...
by akhnaten
Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:44 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Reccomeded Hard Copy Dictionaries
Replies: 12
Views: 5368

Re: Reccomeded Hard Copy Dictionaries

thanks for this discussion. hope it will quickly be relevant. Qimmik, Sounds like you are suggesting buying used because older editions are of higher quality (binding, typesetting?), not just price. Is there a vague date when the OUP publishing declined--ie, should those published in the 90s also be...
by akhnaten
Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:37 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Proper nouns, Greek to English
Replies: 3
Views: 1662

Re: Proper nouns, Greek to English

this is exactly what i was looking for, thank you.
(again, not important at this stage. i'm assuming that if the names show nom. and gen. forms, they are declinable names. if they only show a nominative entry, they are indeclinable?)
by akhnaten
Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:56 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Proper nouns, Greek to English
Replies: 3
Views: 1662

Proper nouns, Greek to English

Not a huge issue--but it would help me a little. I have tried a few google and textkit searches without luck. In fact, the searches are better at coming up with vocabulary lists without proper nouns! Is there a list of only proper nouns, Greek and English? Historical and fictional people and deities...
by akhnaten
Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:06 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Anyone for Wilson&Vlachos 1st John Workbook starting 8/1/14
Replies: 4
Views: 2899

Anyone for Wilson&Vlachos 1st John Workbook starting 8/1/14

Wilson and Vlachos 1st John Workbook: http://www.bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/a-workbook-for-new-testament-greek/335130 used: http://www.amazon.com/Workbook-New-Testament-Greek-Exegesis/dp/0801048125 It is meant for the beginning student, and is suggested for use by students midway through an intr...
by akhnaten
Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:11 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Assistance with Croy Lesson 11
Replies: 6
Views: 3555

Re: Assistance with Croy Lesson 11

OK, thanks for the clarification! Croy has a whole paragraph on pl. neuters in 3rd person sing. It even has an index entry. You would think he could have thrown in that bit of info. Oh well--I've written it into my textbook. (I just used Smyth for the first time the other day to find out more on par...
by akhnaten
Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:06 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Assistance with Croy Lesson 11
Replies: 6
Views: 3555

Assistance with Croy Lesson 11

Practice and review question #3; there is no context for the demonstrative or pronoun. Either my translation is incorrect, or I have a question on the practice sentence: ταῦτα ἐγράφοντο ἐν τῷ βιβλίῳ τοῦ νόμου, ὑμεῖς δὲ οὐκ ἐδύνασθε βλέπειν αὐτά. My translation: These were being written into the book...
by akhnaten
Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:06 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: help with sentence from Mastronarde Unit 9
Replies: 12
Views: 3201

Re: help with sentence from Mastronarde Unit 9

haha, not in mastronarde mwh that was my own greek sentence in reference to you saying "onward and upward". i am sure it is a very odd sentence. it was a poorly made pun using the few greek words i know. i used μή because it was in the unit i'm working on and wanted to use it. i don't know the repla...