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by demetri
Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Locating the text of the rite of ἀδελφοποίησις?
Replies: 2
Views: 1080

Re: Locating the text of the rite of ἀδελφοποίησις?

I am certain it exists in the Greek Orthodox tradition and it has had some popular interest since many mistakenly think it shows same sex unions being blessed in the Church.

It was used to reconcile enemies.

https://orthodoxwiki.org/Adelphopoiesis
by demetri
Fri May 25, 2018 5:38 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Resources suggestions
Replies: 54
Views: 66556

Re: Resources suggestions

Alpheios also is available for Chrome/Chromium.
by demetri
Tue May 22, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: basics: dictionary, grammar
Replies: 13
Views: 2329

Re: basics: dictionary, grammar

I am not sure about the "basics" definition, but if you use Firefox or Chrome/Chromium you might find the Alpheios Reading Tools add-on useful.
by demetri
Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:50 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Anyone have Kalos language software?
Replies: 2
Views: 1724

Re: Anyone have Kalos language software?

I understand your frustration. I just learned Firefox with the coming ver 57 will no longer support Alpheios Greek and Latin extensions which I admit I use, maybe too much.
But for your problem:

https://web.archive.org/web/20161118063 ... nloads.php
by demetri
Thu May 11, 2017 1:48 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Question about Porson's Bridge (and Devine and Stephens)
Replies: 12
Views: 8353

Re: Question about Porson's Bridge (and Devine and Stephens)

While the Oct04 .pdf is not now available, some of that defunct site's material is viewable using archive.org's Wayback machine - one at least on pitch.
by demetri
Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:45 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: How do you pronounce the New Testament?
Replies: 7
Views: 4069

Re: How do you pronounce the New Testament?

For Koine, Prof Rico:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDE-7z66OHg

Bearing in mind you are close to modern, but not quite.
Otherwise, I use the horrid Erasmusian scheme.
by demetri
Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:34 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Any Native Greek Speakers?
Replies: 2
Views: 1713

Re: Any Native Greek Speakers?

Ursinus,

While technically not Attic any Greek Orthodox church liturgy should afford you plenty of modern pronunciation.
by demetri
Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:59 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Acts 11:21
Replies: 19
Views: 8364

Re: Acts 11:21

"ὁ δοῦλος ὁ θρέξας" seems like standard usage for Koine as well as extending into today's usage. Pardon me if I misundertand and issue here, though.
by demetri
Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:12 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Recently started, many questions
Replies: 27
Views: 12007

Re: Recently started, many questions

I definitely like the singsong quality of his recording. It makes the eta sound less harsh, too. I agree entirely. In fact his scheme has become my standard. The more I think about pronunciations I am of the singular opinion that my preference for much of modern Greek comes from that lilting, sing-...
by demetri
Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:17 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: An Easter treat
Replies: 2
Views: 2074

Re: An Easter treat

Thanks Markos. We are a few weeks away from chanting that but the gesture is nice. :)
by demetri
Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:43 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Learning ancient-greek with modern-greek pronunciation?
Replies: 16
Views: 10992

Re: Learning ancient-greek with modern-greek pronunciation?

Do not feel badly. I would have made the same "error" myself. :lol:
by demetri
Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:55 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Learning ancient-greek with modern-greek pronunciation?
Replies: 16
Views: 10992

Re: Learning ancient-greek with modern-greek pronunciation?

For nearly forty years I have used BOTH. 8)
by demetri
Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:21 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: κολοκύνθη - Cucurbita maxima
Replies: 5
Views: 2303

Re: κολοκύνθη - Cucurbita maxima

I had thought maybe kolokythakia, as below, but it turns out they come from the Americas too: https://www.google.gr/search?q=%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%BA%CF%85%CE%B8%CE%B1%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%B1&rlz=1C1CHFX_en-GBGB557GB557&espv=2&es_sm=122&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVCh...
by demetri
Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:16 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: BC/AD vs BCE/CE
Replies: 31
Views: 13587

Re: BC/AD vs BCE/CE

Was it this BCE in 19th century Russia?

Is OUTRAGE!

:lol:
by demetri
Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:25 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: how do you learn 3rd declensions?
Replies: 37
Views: 8196

Re: how do you learn 3rd declensions?

What mwh said above. I concur. I don't distinguish vowel length in my pronunciation of Greek or Latin, but in the rare instances when I read verse I attend to the long vowels. The exact pronunciation isn't as important as the fact that the meter is made apparent. Also, I think the argument that Anc...
by demetri
Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:19 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: how do you learn 3rd declensions?
Replies: 37
Views: 8196

Re: how do you learn 3rd declensions?

I don’t think Homer should sound like song. I do think it should sound like verse. But Greeks can read it however they like, of course. My point was simply that verse depends on meter, and meter depends on quantity. Song as in melodious sound? You think the poems were recited rather than performed ...
by demetri
Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:50 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: how do you learn 3rd declensions?
Replies: 37
Views: 8196

Re: how do you learn 3rd declensions?

The NT read without differentiation of vowel quantity is one thing, but have you heard a modern Greek reading Homer? You wouldn’t know it was verse. Perhaps so. But to some these reconstructions do not sound like song either. I always read at least twice(sometimes three times), using each. But then...
by demetri
Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:54 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Euphony
Replies: 22
Views: 6231

Re: Euphony in Romans

jeidsath wrote:I think that this thread may be a mistake. I would delete it before trouble bleeds over.
Chuckle...I find the "Ignore" function works very well here, and for exactly the same reason (without naming names :wink: )
by demetri
Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:03 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Christophe Rico's new English version of Πόλις is out
Replies: 7
Views: 3607

Re: Christophe Rico's new English version of Πόλις is out

Markos,
There may be hundreds of videos now but seldom are any as pleasant to my ears than Rico's.
by demetri
Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:29 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Woodhouse English-Greek Dictionary in DOCX and DSL
Replies: 7
Views: 5003

Re: Woodhouse English-Greek Dictionary in DOCX and DSL

Well done indeed. Many thanks. This is very useful (and usable).
by demetri
Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:21 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Interest in GREEK: AN INTENSIVE COURSE
Replies: 24
Views: 15832

Re: Interest in GREEK: AN INTENSIVE COURSE

"Intensive" seems an accurate description of this course. I just opened my not-yet-read copy and am rather intimidated.

Can we "audit' the class? :)
by demetri
Thu May 07, 2015 5:02 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: intermediate commentary on a work of Aristotle
Replies: 24
Views: 10591

Re: intermediate commentary on a work of Aristotle

bedwere wrote:More (and some of the same) works by Neophytos Doukas:

Δούκας, Νεόφυτος
Hey, thanks for pointing out this entire site. A treasure of which I cannot believe I never knew was available.
by demetri
Mon May 04, 2015 3:22 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ALPHEIOS SOFTWARE
Replies: 2
Views: 1834

Re: ALPHEIOS SOFTWARE

Sorry, I have no idea. Both run fine on my systems (not much help).

Perhaps a browser fonts issue?
by demetri
Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:46 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Iliad 22 (spoiler alert!)
Replies: 16
Views: 8396

Re: Iliad 22 (spoiler alert!)

Chuckle. I understand your feelings. I still remember my emotions at first reading Ajax falling on his sword in Sophocles. That was 45 years ago and it is still in vivid memory. :shock:
by demetri
Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:43 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Ancient Greek Dictionary Software
Replies: 3
Views: 2237

Re: Ancient Greek Dictionary Software

While not a stand alone dictionary perhaps, I enjoy using Alpheios within my browser (thanks to another member here who posted about it):

http://alpheios.net/
by demetri
Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:58 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Video on history of Greek pronunciation
Replies: 2
Views: 1557

Re: Video on history of Greek pronunciation

On the other hand I found the video most edifying. But then I am no fan of any reconstructed scheme including Erasmus's. But then I can readily admit the modern is not correct either. It took me several viewings of Professor Zachariou's lesson and found it compelling in many points. Over the years (...
by demetri
Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:43 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Homer & cinema
Replies: 10
Views: 5260

Re: Homer & cinema

I myself would prefer opera. :lol:
by demetri
Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:40 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Stefan Hagel's Aulos reconstruction
Replies: 2
Views: 1742

Re: Stefan Hagel's Aulos reconstruction

Many thanks for these. I especially enjoyed the longer video and lecture. Music to my ears indeed.
by demetri
Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:18 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Inspecting 1 John 1:1
Replies: 514
Views: 182434

Re: Inspecting 1 John 1:1

I fail to see how sophistry and rhetoric implies "being knowledgeable". You are pressing your belief agenda and, as I think I have tried to point out, ignore the understanding of those who historically did not need translations. This is theater.
by demetri
Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:54 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Inspecting 1 John 1:1
Replies: 514
Views: 182434

Re: Inspecting 1 John 1:1

Sigh...old heresies die hard. This is a topic for a theology forum. Here it just serves as a Soap Opera - entertaining but useless. :wink:
by demetri
Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:24 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Luke 4:8
Replies: 30
Views: 20770

Re: Luke 4:8

It does not surprise me at all that you do not understand; and there is nothing anyone here can do to correct this shoe-horning, twisting of the language to suit your personal beliefs (here and elsewhere).
by demetri
Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:20 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Inspecting 1 John 1:1
Replies: 514
Views: 182434

Re: Inspecting 1 John 1:1

Isaac Newton wrote: What is the case of ὃ in 1 John 1:1 ( ἦν ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς,) according to your reading ?
jaihare wrote: Nominative.
Correct.
by demetri
Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:04 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Luke 4:8
Replies: 30
Views: 20770

Re: Luke 4:8

Bingo! Please give uberdwayne a cigar. Interesting, because it is precisely theology , it seems to me, which is causing you to disgrgard the simple grammar and context of Luke 4:8. I sense that I'm dealing with a coven of mostly "undercover" Trinitarians (and friends.) Interesting word, coven. I ta...
by demetri
Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:51 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Luke 4:8
Replies: 30
Views: 20770

Re: Luke 4:8

This seems like a thinly veiled attempt to start another Trinity debate. All I have to do is say that "Κύριον τὸν Θεόν" refers to the God-head in its entirety, hence the pronoun. The Orthodox teaching is that the 3 are one, so it makes sense that the pronoun is singular, Θεόν is masculine singular,...
by demetri
Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:10 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: frequency of perfect participles
Replies: 19
Views: 6889

Re: frequency of perfect participles

Bart wrote:
Paul Derouda wrote: καὶ μὴν βεβίνηκας σύ γ᾽
Huh huh. For the rest of my Greek studying life this little sentence will come to mind when pondering the syntactical function of the perfect.
I am pretending I never read it.

Good thread, folks.
by demetri
Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:45 am
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: What Language Was Latin For The Greeks?
Replies: 30
Views: 20481

Re: What Language Was Latin For The Greeks?

Miguel, Just by happenstance, I am listening to a podcast series called 'History of Byzantium', and episode 41, which I just got around to listening to last night, is entitled 'Who Is A Byzantine'. It gives some detail that will help you understand how the whole Classical Greek-Byzantine Roman iden...
by demetri
Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:22 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Reading dictionary entries
Replies: 6
Views: 3086

Re: Reading dictionary entries

I also am a Kalos fan. Good resource and I am not connected with it either.
by demetri
Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:02 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Epexegetical Genitive in Philippians 2:6-7
Replies: 47
Views: 21034

Re: Epexegetical Genitive in Philippians 2:6-7

You guys need to "get a room". :lol:
by demetri
Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:26 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Traditional Second Year Greek Text
Replies: 25
Views: 10445

Re: Traditional Second Year Greek Text

It will be interesting seeing other "traditions". :D

We went from the Iliad to Sophocles' Ajax (back in '69).
by demetri
Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:22 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Actual and Natural Result...
Replies: 5
Views: 3687

Re: Actual and Natural Result...

Ah...good old Chase & Phillips, my first Greek text. Don't fret; I know of instructors still using it today for a first year course.