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by sid4greek
Sat May 08, 2010 6:58 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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sid4greek ο ηκουσατε απ αρχης 1 John 2:24 This is interesting. Did the writer have the Gospel Message in mind at this point in time. We see some what of a reverse order here? heard from the beginning verses what was from the beginning you heard. I wonder what the implications are here? ο ην απ αρχη...
by sid4greek
Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:55 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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GTM wrote:sid4greek
1 John 2:24

...imeis ho ekusate....
I think that 1 John 2:24 is the best example of the two that you gave. I am going to spend some time in both texts and I will get back to you.

Thank You

God Bless

GTM
rightio...I'll do that as well to the best of my ability :wink:
by sid4greek
Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:42 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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GTM wrote:sidforgreek
I'll look into that!
Looking forward to your answer.

GTM

I think I have found two examples:

1 John 2:24

...imeis ho ekusate....


and also

1 John 5:15

...emon ho ean ...

(I still can't use the Greek symbols...don't know why :(
by sid4greek
Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:37 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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sid4greek I have read 1 John 1:1-4 again and I must say that possibly the intention of the author was: hey, we were witnesses and we want to share what we know with you in order to strengthen your faith. So, the message/life of Christ is underlying the text. Hence, the neuter form referring to "som...
by sid4greek
Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:19 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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BillWood I believe you are right in the critical point of the argument, but am not sure of the end result. I'm sure I made some sense here, 'and' made things clear as mud. : ) One of the things that I keep in mind as I study 1 John is the fact that John was addressing Christians and I believe that ...
by sid4greek
Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:15 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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1.) Who is the "we" that John is speaking of? Was there some type of council? Or is thi speaking os a spiritual knowledge of sorts I am not sure about that...I'd say that "we" is referring to the christian community and to spiritual knowledge...does Greek have a special verb for "knowing someone per...
by sid4greek
Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:07 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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sid4greek you said: let me think about it Take your time. :D I have about a thousand other questions on first John that I will eventually post but I like to address them one at a time and this happened to be the next on my list. :?: cooll!!! I know that the Old testament LXX used ἱλασμός several ti...
by sid4greek
Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:00 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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I'm planning to hang in there!

; )
by sid4greek
Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:54 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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let me think about it... :)
by sid4greek
Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:48 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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sid4greek 1 John 2:2 (RSV) and he is the expiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. Should have given this in my last post. Sorry! :...
by sid4greek
Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:49 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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sid4greek so...where do we go from here...? Good question. :D In 1 John 2:3 we see 2 καὶ αὐτὸς ἱλασμός ἐστιν περὶ τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν ἡμῶν, οὐ περὶ τῶν ἡμετέρων δὲ μόνον ἀλλὰ καὶ περὶ ὅλου τοῦ κόσμου. In some translations we see the term ἱλασμός being understood as propitiation and some texts it is unders...
by sid4greek
Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:14 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
Replies: 251
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so...where do we go from here...? :roll:
by sid4greek
Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:01 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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sid4greek you asked: what do you mean by "revelatory" idea? Idea #1 seen in Matthew Matthew 16:17 And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you , but My Father who is in heaven. In simple terms a light comes on and one becomes aware of so...
by sid4greek
Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:39 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
Replies: 251
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sid4greek perhaps as a way to keep false doctrines away from the "ekklesia"...darkness referring to false doctrine Interesting thought. I always thought that it might speak more of Gods Holiness than to a revelatory idea. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. GTM what do you mean by "revelatory" idea?
by sid4greek
Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:40 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
Replies: 251
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Attention Greek Scholars in 1 John 1:5 why did the writer find it necessary to say, "God is light and in Him is no darkness at all"? GTM ouvdemi,a some comments about "at all": 1) "at all" is an emphasiser and so 2) "at all" emphasises the fact that "there is no darkness in God" since "darkness" an...
by sid4greek
Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:17 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
Replies: 251
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perhaps as a way to keep false doctrines away from the "ekklesia"...darkness referring to false doctrine
by sid4greek
Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:16 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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can anyone translate lietrally what verse 22 in Greek says?
I don't understand what the words between "feistes" and "arnumenos", i.e. "ei mè", mean morphosyntactically...

cheers

sidney
by sid4greek
Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:01 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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I am still reading chapter 2 and when I read verse 22 I just can't understand the contextual meaning of the question: tis estin ho feistes? this question appears all of a sudden in the text and so breaks, so to speak, the flow of the previous discourse. I don't know if you too get this feeling? as f...
by sid4greek
Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:32 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
Replies: 251
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By oddity I simply meant the grammatical oddity of using oida, which I would say is usually transitive, without any direct object, not even one that's implied by the context (although I might be missing something and he means "you all know (about those people and events I'm referring to)". If I rem...
by sid4greek
Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:53 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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modus.irrealis You said: I think different translators have tried to cope with the slight oddity of there being no object of "know" Interesting point. (slight oddity ?) It seems that it is a claim against the idea of a few who claimed to have esoteric knowledge. This could prove to be an interestin...
by sid4greek
Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:49 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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cheers Jason for your comments! some food for more thought!
I'll read the verses you cite and see what I come up with...

:)
by sid4greek
Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:28 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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sid4greek "you know the truth" in verse 20 is rendered in the Catalan version as "you have the knowledge" (which is a bit like the gnostic gospels philosohy) Is it possible that we can differentiate between having knowledge and have revelation? In other words, knowledge saves no one. It is the Reve...
by sid4greek
Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:47 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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back to the Antichrist issue:

how come John says that we know that this is the last hour because of the antichrists leaving the christian community as explained in verse 19??
by sid4greek
Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:41 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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1 John 2:20

"you know the truth" in verse 20 is rendered in the Catalan version as "you have the knowledge" (which is a bit like the gnostic gospels philosohy)

in Latin> nostia omnia
in Greek > oidate pantes

knowledge = truth?
by sid4greek
Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:37 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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I think that this is tied with what is written in chapter 4: 1 John 4:3 καὶ πᾶν πνεῦμα ὃ μὴ ὁμολογεῖ τὸν Ἰησοῦν ἐκ τοῦ θεοῦ οὐκ ἔστιν· καὶ τοῦτό ἐστιν τὸ τοῦ ἀντιχρίστου, ὃ ἀκηκόατε ὅτι ἔρχεται, καὶ νῦν ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ ἐστὶν ἤδη. "And every spirit which does not confess Jesus is not from God: and this ...
by sid4greek
Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:34 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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I've been reading 1 John 15-18 and I have a question:

what had the writer in mind when talking about "the antichrist" (verse 18)? the writer seems to distinguish between "the antichrist" and "many antichrists" of a lesser kind....

cheers

:?
by sid4greek
Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:31 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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I think so too, Bert! :roll:
by sid4greek
Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:21 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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after reading your comments plus the text (1 John 2: 12-14), here is what I have found: a) according to the grammars, "oti" can be either a conjunction introducing the subjective opinion of the writer; "because, for, since"; or a marker for direct discourse (direct speech). b) (i) in the English NIV...
by sid4greek
Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:50 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
Replies: 251
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I apologise for not sending any replies until now, but I have been rather busy... :(
However, I have just read the messages needed to pick it up from here, so I hope I can keep up with you!
by sid4greek
Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:16 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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I have also read chapter 2: 1-8, more specifically v. 7 and 8, and here is what I think: verse 7> John is not writing about anything new since it is already in the "Law"; I am referring to the "Law" because the adjective used in Latin is "vetus", which strikes me as something really really old, I su...
by sid4greek
Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:10 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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it does make sense to think that gnosticism is in the background of the whole discourse in the letter...do you think that perhaps there were even members of the christian community who were adopting so¡uch teachings? is there any evidence??
by sid4greek
Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:14 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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hey...where's everybody??? have I said anything wrong....?

:?

:lol:
by sid4greek
Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:44 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
Replies: 251
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picking up a previous topic which is that of the meaning of "from the beginning" (v.1), I'd like to say that it is interesting to see that a similar expression is used in 2:7,13,14,24; 3: 8,11; 2Jn 5,6...some of which may not be referring to pre-existence (see Jason's comments), but the christian co...
by sid4greek
Sat May 30, 2009 6:34 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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περὶ τοῦ λόγου τῆς ζωῆς I guess there was little interest in the possibility of a gnostic problem. MAybe we should take a look at "περὶ τοῦ λόγου τῆς ζωῆς". In light of the idea that the text deals more with the things about Christ how are we to understand "concerning the word of life"? GTM I have ...
by sid4greek
Fri May 22, 2009 8:35 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: morituri tibi salutant
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morituri tibi salutant

I was just wondering whether there were instances of "morituri tibi salutant" in written records in Latin....

cheers

sidney
by sid4greek
Sat May 16, 2009 6:26 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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modus.irrealis I don't understand the difficulty here. The Greek seems a lot like the English "that which was from the start" which seems to me to work with any interpretation. It still seems to me that the emphasis is on the author's message being the same as the original message and not having be...
by sid4greek
Thu May 14, 2009 9:17 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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jaihare, One more thought on idioms before I go in a different direction This one is: keep tabs on. This idiom clearly could be used in various ways. Here are a couple possibilities To watch a Child. To control a Bank account. GTM sure, but the core meaning remains the same...TO CONTROL STH/SB
by sid4greek
Tue May 05, 2009 11:27 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
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modus.irrealis you asked: What exactly does ποιειν την αληθηειαν mean? Is it possible that this(ποιοῦμεν τὴν ἀλήθειαν) was an idiom and the native speakers could have understood it several ways? Just a thought? GTM oú ποιοῦμεν τὴν ἀλήθειαν = not do the truth Latin also: non facimus veritatem looks ...
by sid4greek
Fri May 01, 2009 9:30 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
Replies: 251
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I agree with you modus.irrealis

:?
by sid4greek
Fri May 01, 2009 2:25 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: study a NT book
Replies: 251
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mmmm....interesting point here: I've had a look at different translations: a) in English (NIV)= was b) in Spanish (Nacar-Colunga)= era [was] c) in Catalan (SBU) =existia [existed] d) in Latin = fuit [has been] if in the Greek text we have "en", it does make sense to translate it as "was", but how c...