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by anphph
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:19 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Doing a search for grammatical forms
Replies: 6
Views: 209

Re: Doing a search for grammatical forms

I don't imagine how there could plausibly be one, but computers will keep finding ways of surprising us.
by anphph
Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:07 am
Forum: Composition Exercises
Topic: Rouse, Sing, Syntax and Idioms
Replies: 3
Views: 207

Re: Rouse, Sing, Syntax and Idioms

16. πάντες ἡμεῖς ἅμα ἐλαυνόμεθα. 16. Omnes eodem cogimur. 16. πάντες αὐτόσε ἀναγκαζόμεθα. I didn't read the rest of the list, but here maybe the error was in the Latin? Eo (and so also, appropriately modified, eodem ) can of course be the ablative of is,ea,id, but it is also an adverb of place mean...
by anphph
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:51 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ask through where? "per quem locum?"
Replies: 8
Views: 250

Re: Ask through where? "per quem locum?"

phonologically false Right, but etymologically correct, which is often a concern for people interested in confirming the pedigree of the language they are using. Portuguese is at the moment suffering the aftershock of an orthographic agreement that got rid of a significant number of "etymological c...
by anphph
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:37 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: What is the joke? (Aelianus De Natura Animalium)
Replies: 4
Views: 228

What is the joke? (Aelianus De Natura Animalium)

Aelianus De natura animalium 12.21 Ἴδιον δὲ τῶν ζῴων καὶ ἡ φιλανθρωπία. ἀετὸς γοῦν ἔθρεψε βρέφος. καὶ εἰπεῖν τὸν πάντα λόγον ἐθέλω, ὡς ἂν γένηται μάρτυς ὧν προεθέμην. Βαβυλωνίων βασιλεύοντος Σευηχόρου Χαλδαῖοι λέγουσι τὸν γενόμενον ἐκ τῆς ἐκείνου θυγατρὸς τὴν βασιλείαν ἀφαιρήσεσθαι τὸν πάππον. τοῦτο...
by anphph
Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:57 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ask through where? "per quem locum?"
Replies: 8
Views: 250

Re: Ask through where? "per quem locum?"

Qua being an adverbial survival standing for Qua via? In the ablative. The other adverbs are also exstant : It's generally only people who know some Latin who make this particular spelling error... I was once grading a paper for a theology class in which the student consistently spelled "expect" "e...
by anphph
Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:23 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ask through where? "per quem locum?"
Replies: 8
Views: 250

Re: Ask through where? "per quem locum?"

Qua being an adverbial survival standing for Qua via? In the ablative.

The other adverbs are also exstant:

Hac,
Istac,
Illac
by anphph
Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:22 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ask through where? "per quem locum?"
Replies: 8
Views: 250

Re: Ask through where? "per quem locum?"

Qua being an adverbial survival standing for Qua via? In the ablative.
by anphph
Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:53 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: translation question
Replies: 6
Views: 264

Re: translation question

No. Why would it be? Indirect discourse is when someone else's speech is being reported, or else when some sort of question or statement is expressed inside a direct statement.
by anphph
Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:25 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Question about Apuleius' Metamorphoses
Replies: 2
Views: 106

Re: Question about Apuleius' Metamorphoses

viseris is present passive indicative from visere . So your translation is wrong and the Loeb gets it right. It should be something like And yet you appear here [ hic ] now [:: are seen] as a ghostly figure to our great disgrace. Visere is not Videre , and so is not often used, as the latter, with ...
by anphph
Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:20 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Webpage Redesign and Login Problems
Replies: 16
Views: 704

Re: Webpage Redesign and Login Problems

Is there a Mark All Read button?
by anphph
Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Seneca epistulae morales 24
Replies: 6
Views: 257

Re: Seneca epistulae morales 24

I see it less as a neologism than as a purposely ghastly expression and even -- dare I say, or am being too squeamish? -- actually effective as such.
by anphph
Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:57 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Seneca epistulae morales 24
Replies: 6
Views: 257

Re: Seneca epistulae morales 24

Miseris is future perfect, right? Seneca seems to use the future perfect quite a lot in cases where I would expect a normal future tense. Yes, future perfect. While it can be used in other cases, here it is caused by the articulation of tenses with the future imperfect occurrent . Why potuit? The f...
by anphph
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Nota quod quoddam potest esse licet non sit
Replies: 12
Views: 585

Re: Nota quod quoddam potest esse licet non sit

Sloppy writing? Aquinas?! Never! And quia does not mean “because.” [...] But the last thing he can be accused of is sloppiness, either of thought or expression! Quia does not mean because ? Maybe because doesn't mean because ! Here quia is, of course, standing for something like quod -- but, and th...
by anphph
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:43 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Nota quod quoddam potest esse licet non sit
Replies: 12
Views: 585

Re: Nota quod quoddam potest esse licet non sit

"Signum est quia", without seeing what comes after, I'd assume it's just sloppy writing. The sign is because etc What comes right after is this: "(...) signum est quia; dicuntur esse accidentia in subiecto, non autem quod forma substantialis sit in subiecto." Yeah, it's just sloppy writing. The sig...
by anphph
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:39 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Grouping the genitives in Longus 3.9.1
Replies: 12
Views: 733

Re: Grouping the genitives in Longus 3.9.1

Maybe I'm totally missing the point of the thread, but I think that if anyone wanted to separate the two adjectives they would likely separate them. Plus what jeidsath said. καθήμενοι δὲ περὶ τῆς Μυρτάλης <...>, τοῦ Λάμωνος ἐπυνθάνοντο Punctuated like this it could probably mean what you want. As th...
by anphph
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:19 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Nota quod quoddam potest esse licet non sit
Replies: 12
Views: 585

Re: Nota quod quoddam potest esse licet non sit

Thank you!! " Quod autem illud quod est in potentia ad esse accidentale dicatur subiectum, signum est quia ;" What this "quod" is here, is a pronoun that agrees with "illud"? And "signum est quia": "there is a sign because"? No, it doesn't agree with illud. Here it's a conjunction. It functions exa...
by anphph
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:48 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Nota quod quoddam potest esse licet non sit
Replies: 12
Views: 585

Re: Nota quod quoddam potest esse licet non sit

There are some imperative verbs that are used as filler words, such as puta (think, consider) or vide (see) or nota (notice). These even get paired with other words, like utputa (don't confuse it with utpote ), and in that case would mean something like "There are many such examples of these, think ...
by anphph
Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:01 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: question about possessive adjectives
Replies: 12
Views: 652

Re: question about possessive adjectives

How would you say:

the brothers of my brothers

?
by anphph
Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:02 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Bowen's Advanced Greek Unseens
Replies: 69
Views: 3037

Re: Bowen's Advanced Greek Unseens

jeidsath wrote:There still seems to be something wrong with this, because πρευμενοῦς is not an adverb, and should not be modifying νόστου.
πρευμενοῦς is adjective (in the genitive), modifying νόστος. It's in the genitive because that's what tuxein governs.

N πρευμενὴς νόστος
G πρευμενοῦς νόστου
by anphph
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:51 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Reading Livy
Replies: 5
Views: 548

Re: Reading Livy

I don't know Henle's books, but presumably the only thing anyone can recommend you at this stage is that you get a firm basis in Latin grammar, vocabulary, syntax through study books, and then make the jump to De urbe condita . No need to complicate things, and I don't think taking a sidetrack throu...
by anphph
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:46 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Agamemnon 317 the Chorus speaking
Replies: 2
Views: 344

Re: Agamemnon 317 the Chorus speaking

Reading the Agamemnon (if glancing from the text to Sidgwick's commentary to Page's commentary to a translation and back to the text can honestly be called reading), I have a question about the chorus. At line 317*, the Chorus says: θεοῖς μὲν αὖθις, ὦ γύναι, προσεύξομαι. Does the fact that the verb...
by anphph
Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:35 pm
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: Averroes commentaries on Aristotle based on Greek?
Replies: 4
Views: 759

Re: Averroes commentaries on Aristotle based on Greek?

This is question about the history of Greek scholarship. Were the 14th century Alandalusian philosopher Averroes' commentaries based on the original Greek text, or only on Arabic translations? In other words, was Greek being taught, learned and studied in the Almohad caliphate before the fall of Co...
by anphph
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:12 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Mimnermus Fr. 2
Replies: 10
Views: 1039

Re: Mimnermus Fr. 2

ὧν τε -- epic τε; see Smyth 2970; Denniston pp. 520 ff. The meaning and function of this type of τε are not fully understood, and neither Smyth nor Denniston are the last word on the subject. C. Ruigh wrote a 1000-page treatise Autour de τε épique , but his conclusions are apparently not universall...
by anphph
Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:56 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Mimnermus Fr. 2
Replies: 10
Views: 1039

Re: Mimnermus Fr. 2

And again to another in lack of children, then (τε?) he is most of all desiring them as he makes his way over earth to Hades. Note — I tried to relate lines 11-> with the statement about old age ruining everything. I felt that the “ἄλλοτε” of line 11 and the “τε” of line 13 had some sort of tempora...
by anphph
Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:26 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Hesiod Works and Days 191-2
Replies: 16
Views: 1210

Re: Hesiod Works and Days 191-2

Barry Hofstetter wrote:Could it simply be read as a hendiadys?
I guess the whole discussion is really about whether or not it is hendiadys or not. In other words, if hybris and man are to be joined together, and if so, how.
by anphph
Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:26 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Hesiod Works and Days 191-2
Replies: 16
Views: 1210

Re: Hesiod Works and Days 191-2

This is West's note.

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by anphph
Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:59 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Hesiod Works and Days 191-2
Replies: 16
Views: 1210

Hesiod Works and Days 191-2

οὐδέ τις εὐόρκου χάρις ἔσσεται οὐδὲ δικαίου οὐδ' ἀγαθοῦ, μᾶλλον δὲ κακῶν ῥεκτῆρα καὶ ὕβριν ἀνέρα τιμήσουσι· δίκη δ' ἐν χερσί· καὶ αἰδὼς οὐκ ἔσται, βλάψει δ' ὁ κακὸς τὸν ἀρείονα φῶτα μύθοισι σκολιοῖς ἐνέπων, ἐπὶ δ' ὅρκον ὀμεῖται. . . . it is rather the doer of evil and the outrage man that they will...
by anphph
Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:31 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: sentence question
Replies: 1
Views: 570

Re: sentence question

Aliquis , if preceded by ne , becomes quis . Plautus (shoutout to ferriculus from the Amphitruo thread): Ne quis miretus quis sim, paucis eloquar Ne [ali]quam multitudinem. That he should bring not any multidude. So, he should bring no multitude, although I suspect (I'd need context) that it actual...
by anphph
Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:15 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Why study biblical Greek? a Bum Steer
Replies: 16
Views: 1320

Re: Why study biblical Greek? a Bum Steer

There is a lack of understanding of what exactly Koinê is, which is at the root of all problems. Koinê, Jewish Greek, Septuagint Greek, NT Greek, Christian Greek, Hellenistic Greek, and "Greek after Alexander" all refer to overlapping, but not in any way identical segments of the Greek corpus, with ...
by anphph
Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Plautus Amphitruo, Argumentum I
Replies: 4
Views: 704

Re: Plautus Amphitruo, Argumentum I

ferriculus wrote:I would expect something like "tumultus inter uxorem et virum"

Is this a poetical dative or does the dative have here a function which I'm missing?
I don't see anything special in it, a simple dative hovering between possessive and ethical. I don't think you should worry about it.
by anphph
Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:20 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Septuaginta Reader's Edition
Replies: 16
Views: 1569

Re: Septuaginta Reader's Edition

Thanks for this. I am at the moment using their Reader's edition of the Hebrew version, a really nice book. If this is as good (and from your review it sounds like it is) it should be a great volume. Care to post some pictures?
by anphph
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:10 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Plautus Amphitruo, Argumentum I
Replies: 4
Views: 704

Re: Plautus Amphitruo, Argumentum I

Why shouldn't it be? What were you expecting?

(You probably want a quod, not a cur, in your Latin. "Miror hoc, quod...")
by anphph
Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Republic 337
Replies: 2
Views: 788

Re: Republic 337

Hey Joel! Here's my take. καὶ ὃς ἀκούσας ἀνεκάγχασέ τε μάλα σαρδάνιον καὶ εἶπεν: Why ὃς? DEMONSTR. PRON., = οὗτος, ὅδε, this, that; also, he, she, it: in later Gr. this usage remained in a few forms: at the beginning of a clause, καὶ ὅς and he, Hdt.7.18, X.Smp.1.15, Pl. Phd.118, Prt.310d ; καὶ ἥ and...
by anphph
Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:54 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Aspiration inside a word (i.e. Panhellenic)
Replies: 8
Views: 1393

Aspiration inside a word (i.e. Panhellenic)

From what we know of phonology, would there be an aspiration in the middle of words like "PanHellenic"?

This touches a number of different things, such as the definition of what a word is before grammatical conceptualization, variations in time, so I'll take what I can get -- what do we know?
by anphph
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:42 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ποιοῦσαιν
Replies: 6
Views: 1073

Re: ποιοῦσαιν

EberP wrote:Is it possible that that word is a dual dative/genetive female particple?
Context obviously forbids it, but anyway a dual dative/genitive feminine active participle would be ποιούσαιν, with the accent like that.
by anphph
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:56 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ποιοῦσαιν
Replies: 6
Views: 1073

Re: ποιοῦσαιν

It's a typo for ποιοῦσιν.
by anphph
Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:56 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Fabulae Syrae Ceres er Proserpina
Replies: 4
Views: 683

Re: Fabulae Syrae Ceres er Proserpina

At least if "finding" is the same as "knowing where she is".
If you call "to find" "to know where she is"
You're right in the interpretation. Implied of course that he found her but that didn't bring him any closer to getting her back.
by anphph
Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:55 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Fabulae Syrae Ceres er Proserpina
Replies: 4
Views: 683

Re: Fabulae Syrae Ceres er Proserpina

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by anphph
Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Seneca EM 7.5
Replies: 7
Views: 918

Re: Seneca EM 7.5

anphph: The lectio difficilior is usually preferred, because it's considered unlikely that an easy reading would be corrupted into one that's more difficult, rather than vice versa. But here faciant would not be a lectio at all: it would be a conjecture with no ms. authority (I assume), and it woul...