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by Kyneto Valesio
Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:04 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: The importance of audio
Replies: 29
Views: 15975

Re: The importance of audio

That there might be some technical flaws in Metrodorus' readings does not detract from their overall value! On that point (pronunciation) I am not prepared to argue because I am ignorant of some of those niceties. I will just speak for myself. I have used Evan's products in the past: parts of Adler,...
by Kyneto Valesio
Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:00 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Locutorium Scholae
Replies: 1
Views: 1191

Re: Locutorium Scholae

wow!! you are going big time !!!
by Kyneto Valesio
Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:32 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: HANC...?
Replies: 5
Views: 1903

Re: HANC...?

comitor is deponent in the middle voice which is somewhat like a reflexive in spanish .... as I understand it. From greenough #397, under iomatic uses of the accusative, In many apparently similar expressions the accusative may be regarded as the direct object of a verb in the "middle voice" inutil ...
by Kyneto Valesio
Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:51 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: The importance of audio
Replies: 29
Views: 15975

Re: The importance of audio

By the way, Metrodorus, since you have become a topic here, would you care to explain why you recently posted to the GLL that you were leaving that forum? For all its problems (archaic format), the very best latinists contribute to that forum. If I were you I would reconsider. What was your user nam...
by Kyneto Valesio
Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:45 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: The importance of audio
Replies: 29
Views: 15975

Re: The importance of audio

Wow ....I had no idea this discussion was taking place until just now. Metrodorus, I agree with everything you say about the neural pathways and such. And you have done a excellent job defending your appraoch. As if it needed defending rather than the unanimous acclamations of everyone!!! Imagine th...
by Kyneto Valesio
Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:59 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Thoughts on Google Books
Replies: 29
Views: 10621

Re: Thoughts on Google Books

thanks to several of you for the "welcome backs". as for capitals - this is the internet and no rules apply as everything is informal. i second the remarks about Metrodorus' (Evan "der" Millner's) internet showmanship. you gotta admire the guy's indefatigable energies. and i would like to suggest so...
by Kyneto Valesio
Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Thoughts on Google Books
Replies: 29
Views: 10621

Re: Thoughts on Google Books

Lex, some good points. On the question of neo-latin vs. classical latin, we can let that issue die: you see a need to choose whereas I don't. It is not a question of great import. But how languages are taught is very important. The so-called "translation only" method is a sure fire method for turnin...
by Kyneto Valesio
Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:50 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Thoughts on Google Books
Replies: 29
Views: 10621

Re: Thoughts on Google Books

just as any form of English is a dialect. and you probably do pretty well negotiating a variety of dialects from rap to elizabethan - we all learn to handle a variety of english dialects - informal youth dialect, talking head analyst dialect, cockney dialect, southern etc. do you get confused? when...
by Kyneto Valesio
Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:09 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Thoughts on Google Books
Replies: 29
Views: 10621

Re: Thoughts on Google Books

still not sure about adrianus' point of view re metrodorus' comments. there is no doubt that internet or no latin will primarily be of interest to snobs, antiquarians, nerds, whatever. nethertheless the existence of google books and similar troves makes it abundantly clear that the bulk of latin lit...
by Kyneto Valesio
Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:21 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Thoughts on Google Books
Replies: 29
Views: 10621

Re: Thoughts on Google Books

The water pot is left at the doorstep. I say, beware false prophets and keep your trousers on. Hydria in limine apponitur. Attendite à falsis prophetis et nolite detrahere bracas, aio. Not certain about the thrust of your comment, Adriane. Could you elaborate? In general I thought metrodorus' obser...
by Kyneto Valesio
Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:01 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: -atus ending for -ship
Replies: 14
Views: 8106

hey everybody Junya's example, apostulatus, is I believe from the 4th declension. As are the examples that Adrian provided abigeus = cattle thief; abigeatus = cattle theft aemulus = rival; aemulatus = rivalry animus = breath, mind; animatus = breathing dominus = master; dominatus = mastery, rule fam...
by Kyneto Valesio
Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:10 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Oral Latin summer retreats.. ?
Replies: 1
Views: 1127

there is a partial list here: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/caractacus.bears/CLI/html/conventicula.html There is another list maintained by a woman who has a site devoted to practicing latin on Skype. I seem to have lost that list. If no one has it I will try to dig it up later. Have you tried searching...
by Kyneto Valesio
Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:51 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Gerundive outside of the Passive Periphrastic
Replies: 16
Views: 5875

Mihi est propositum fabula infinita scribendamus I agree that he probably meant "scribere". But then maybe he was trying to write something like: Propono ut fabulam sine fine scribamus. It is great that people are getting their feet wet with writing in latin. However, from what I have seen, this is...
by Kyneto Valesio
Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:58 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How to use Lingua Latina
Replies: 32
Views: 24857

Hi As for transcribing from the book... Is this different than copying? Copying and transcribing are the same. I have no experience with Cambridge; I admire the Oxford method exceedingly. Nevertheless I get the impresssion the two might be similar. Ditto for Ecce Romani. I think Oxford and LL are si...
by Kyneto Valesio
Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:35 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How to use Lingua Latina
Replies: 32
Views: 24857

Transcribing a text means to write it out in full. I may try this one day if all else fails. The people who have done it claim excellent results. There is a saying something like qui scribit bis discit - he who writes learns twice. The dowling method is based on this ; all the forms are written out ...
by Kyneto Valesio
Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Which grammar do you use?
Replies: 9
Views: 3333

I am currently using Gildersleeve. He writes so abstractly that there are whole sections that completely go by me. More basic is Latin - an Intensive Course . Of the two the latter is much more accessible, the former more thorough. I guess though there are some who wouldn't consider An Intensive Cou...
by Kyneto Valesio
Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:10 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Key for Bradley's Arnold Latin Prose Composition
Replies: 9
Views: 9871

I spent a few minutes looking over the composition keys. The problem for me is that I cannot imagine that I would personally wish to say such things. I don't suppose composition manuals were ever written for persons not wishing to rewrite Caesar's account of the Gallic wars. Is this why Latin lies p...
by Kyneto Valesio
Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:58 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How to use Lingua Latina
Replies: 32
Views: 24857

Having said all this and having gone back to read the original post, let me state that LL is great follow up to Wheelock. My recommendation to the original poster is that he follow a three fold program: 1. Use LL or Oxford Latin Course as a progressive reader 2. Use Latin, An Intensive Course to cem...
by Kyneto Valesio
Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:46 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How to use Lingua Latina
Replies: 32
Views: 24857

Amadeus If I have misrepresented your views please forgive me. Mentally I was putting you in the camp of persons that believes that LL is all you need. I think it is a great program but I doubt any homeschooler or even dedicated autodidact can become "fluent" on the basis of lingua latina - it was t...
by Kyneto Valesio
Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:05 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How to use Lingua Latina
Replies: 32
Views: 24857

For the original poster: LL is a great program.. combine it with "Latin an Intensive Course" as well as daily readings from Cicero or the classical author of your choice. You will go far. And never stop!

Ken
by Kyneto Valesio
Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:50 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: How to use Lingua Latina
Replies: 32
Views: 24857

The aim of LL is to make you read Latin without any intermediary language, and if you start translating, it defeats that purpos e. Absolutely wrong (with all due respect)!! You, I believe, have completely misconstrued the method of Lingua Latina. It is in effect a progressive "translation" program....
by Kyneto Valesio
Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin quiz - relative clauses result
Replies: 0
Views: 1343

Latin quiz - relative clauses result

Render into english the exercises from page 177 into english:

http://tinyurl.com/2t62np
by Kyneto Valesio
Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:20 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: 101 latin facts
Replies: 2
Views: 1393

101 latin facts

Hey all,

I stumbled upon this site today:

http://www.demodocus.com/language/101latin.html

which I thought seemed pretty good until I started encountering a few errors. Can you see any?

Ken
by Kyneto Valesio
Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:15 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Greasy, Vile Romans
Replies: 4
Views: 2258

salve comes Though not a scholar I understand that in general the use of oil, especially the perfumed variety, is a symbol for the Romans either of consummate sophistication or oriental degradation. So if you are poet and ready to party, having your hair shining with oil is goes right along with all...
by Kyneto Valesio
Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:57 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: the NEW Textkit - help out with the pre-soft launch
Replies: 42
Views: 17153

Hi Moderator

I don't understand the purpose of the transition to a new site. What's the difference between blogging and creating new forum topics?

Ken
by Kyneto Valesio
Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:30 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: quisque, quaeque, quodque or quique, quaeque, quodque
Replies: 2
Views: 1800

quisque, quaeque, quodque or quique, quaeque, quodque

Greetings everyone! quisque, quidque is a pronoun meaning each/every and is declined like quis, quid except that quicque may appear in the nom/acc. of the neuter. A question arises: What is the nominative masculine singular of the adjective form? Mooreland and Fleischer says the adjective form would...
by Kyneto Valesio
Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:34 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: "Ave" - question about correct pronunciation.
Replies: 6
Views: 8039

Danica, as the previous poster explained there are two different systems used for pronunciation. Most people here use what is called the "restored classical pronounciation". There are other learners however who continue to use the received ecclesiastical pronounciation which is also what the Roman p...
by Kyneto Valesio
Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:34 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Please help me - I'm lost.
Replies: 13
Views: 3575

I just hope, and pray, that God will give me the grace to learn this language - and, in time, master it. Danica, I have no doubt that with God's help you can learn Latin at an accelerated pace if that is your wish. Although I do not doubt that you have already received much good advice from the for...
by Kyneto Valesio
Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:22 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Teaching my son Latin
Replies: 12
Views: 4713

Hi, There are several enthusiastic supporters on this board of the Lingua Latina series and method. I am one of them. However, unlike others, I believe that Lingua Latina will be most useful if it is supplemented with another reading program such as Ecce Romani or Oxford Latin Course. It is very use...
by Kyneto Valesio
Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:42 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Old English recordings
Replies: 7
Views: 3549

I looked around the net and couldn't find much to indicate that anyone anywhere still speaks or tries to speak anglo-saxon. I did find this spoof however Beowulf ond Godsylla A Parody by Tom Weller Meanehwæl, baccat meaddehæle, / / / monstær lurccen; Fulle few too many drincce, / / / hie luccen for ...
by Kyneto Valesio
Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:23 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: olde othello
Replies: 4
Views: 2163

Pray tell, Zagreus, what are " strange/weyarde/olde translations"

Ken
by Kyneto Valesio
Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:01 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Another intresting thought
Replies: 5
Views: 1613

Thank you, Brent, for the categorization of learning styles. As you point out each of us, though tending to one category, may partake of several. I would describe my own style as that of a bumble bee who wishes to taste the nectar of each flower in the garden. This would be closest in your (though I...
by Kyneto Valesio
Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:34 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Avitus mourns the death of Father Caelestis Eichenseer
Replies: 0
Views: 902

Avitus mourns the death of Father Caelestis Eichenseer

Luegete sodales! For several days members of the Grex have been mourning the death of Caelestis Eichenseer, a benedictine monk and virtual father of today's living latin movement. http://www.voxlatina.uni-saarland.de/ http://tinyurl.com/3durku Avitus is presently Interaxus' online teacher at the Aca...
by Kyneto Valesio
Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:27 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: any other grammars like Allen & Greenough's
Replies: 17
Views: 4219

Hey everbody However, you might be interested in Ficino's (six volumes!) "Platonic Theology:" http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/FICPL6.html In my mind, I fashion myself to be some sort of neo-platonist so I tried one of these Ficino volumes which I found to be boring and so abstract that it could c...
by Kyneto Valesio
Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:06 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Reading list
Replies: 10
Views: 3141

eMule has a whole lot of Assimil courses,
Emule is new to me. Is there are completely free version?
by Kyneto Valesio
Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:03 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: what caused the decline of Classics study?
Replies: 6
Views: 2773

Classics have declined as knowledge of latin has declined. Knowledge of latin declined in part because of the latin teachers made learning latin a very tedious affair that could only appeal to the nerdiest of nerds. Professional pedagogues whose responsibility it was to foster and nourish latin prom...
by Kyneto Valesio
Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:55 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Reading list
Replies: 10
Views: 3141

Et je suis très content de savoir que ce M. Licoppe est tout près de chez moi. Yes Philplus, you are fortunate indeed! As it turns out M. Licoppe is the moderator of the Circulus Latinus Bruxellensis. I highly suggest to you that you find out the time and location of the next meeting. Good luck a...
by Kyneto Valesio
Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:42 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Reading list
Replies: 10
Views: 3141

Quelqu'un a scanné la méthode et converti les enregistrement en format MP3 Someone has scanned the book and converted the recordings to mp3 format? Well, I own the book and I have a set of mp3 recordings. Nevertheless, I would be interested to know where on the net these resources can be found. B...
by Kyneto Valesio
Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:06 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ecce Romani
Replies: 30
Views: 21764

Thanks to E Donnelly for his thoughts and to Adrianus as well. In my opinion, works that are purely pedagogical may have literary merit and thus be considered "authentic". I am very impressed by the editions of the Oxford Latin Course, the drawings as well as the embellished story of Horace's life. ...
by Kyneto Valesio
Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:48 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Reading list
Replies: 10
Views: 3141

Vous n'avez pas pensé à acheter Le Latin Sans Peine (Assimil, 1966). This course is very highly esteemed by leading European Latinists: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Licoppe It is so good that even I, who only read French with great difficulty, use it. Do yourself a favor and buy Le Latin Sa...