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by Gonzalo
Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:28 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Modern Greek equivalent of Loebs
Replies: 7
Views: 1135

Re: Modern Greek equivalent of Loebs

The standars of modern greek editions vary very much even within the very same collection. Nevertheless, today Νῆσος would fulfill every present scholarly standard. The same cannot be said generally about Ζῆτρος, Κάκτος and similar, where exceptions are the good ones. You can take a look here for Ar...
by Gonzalo
Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:05 pm
Forum: Greek Textbooks and Study Groups
Topic: Greek colloquies
Replies: 9
Views: 3452

Re: Greek colloquies

Great collection! We could add: Moschopulos' Σχέδη here . More information about this kind of material at Hunger's Byzantine Literature (Die hochsprachliche profane Literatur der Byzantiner; it's also been translated in very good Greek ) in the chapter about Ἐπιμερισμοί and Σχεδογραφία ( pp. 22ss )....
by Gonzalo
Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:58 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: δ 121 special tmesis case
Replies: 39
Views: 29399

Re: δ 121 special tmesis case

Thank you for the photo. Great!

It's just a meat hook (ἅρπαξ) as offering to Helen... but in the Supplementum Epigraphicum Graecum I've not found any other instances of meat hooks as an offering. I guess that these meat-hooks were used as a tool for the sacrifices.
by Gonzalo
Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:46 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: δ 121 special tmesis case
Replies: 39
Views: 29399

Re: δ 121 special tmesis case

"[...] formerly disputed but now established by epigraphical evidence, probably to be dated to the sixth century, from Helen´s sanctuary at Therapne: see Catling and Cavangh, "Two inscribed bronzes from Sparta", Kadmos XV 145-57 (SEG xxvi 458) [...] Few traces of this lost digamma are discernible i...
by Gonzalo
Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:48 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: δ 121 special tmesis case
Replies: 39
Views: 29399

Re: δ 121 special tmesis case

Thank you very much, Paul. I will look tomorrow West's commentary.
by Gonzalo
Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:37 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: δ 121 special tmesis case
Replies: 39
Views: 29399

Re: δ 121 special tmesis case

Ok. Thank you very much! So no ἐξ nor ἐκ δ' needed.

Best regards,
Gonzalo
by Gonzalo
Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:10 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: δ 121 special tmesis case
Replies: 39
Views: 29399

δ 121 special tmesis case

Hi! [...] ἐκ Ἑλένη θαλάμοιο θυώδεος ὑψορόφοιο ἤλυθεν Ἀρτέμιδι χρυσηλακάτῳ ἐικυῖα. ἐκ δ' codd., corr. Bentley (OCT Allen) [...] forth then from her fragrant high-roofed chamber came Helen, like Artemis of the golden arrows. (A.T. Murray 1919) I came accross this rare combination ἐκ+vowel (not the usu...
by Gonzalo
Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:48 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Alexandros : to Hellenikon Paidion
Replies: 23
Views: 11368

Re: Alexandros : to Hellenikon Paidion

I would like to recommend you another version of a Greek boy at home I came across recently. This one also was made by another guy from Spain: https://es.scribd.com/document/19454340/ninogriego01 https://es.scribd.com/document/19454663/ninogriego02 https://es.scribd.com/document/19580050/ninogriego0...
by Gonzalo
Wed May 31, 2017 1:39 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Graded readers in Ancient Greek -poll
Replies: 50
Views: 29993

Re: Graded readers in Ancient Greek -poll

I didn't want to start a new thread but I've recently discovered a new reader. Its title is Animal story . You may find it at the end of this page in pdf: https://anderson.modelcrafts.eu/ancient-greek/ In my opinion, it's a good choice for those (real) beginners looking for non demoralizing, yet gr...
by Gonzalo
Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:04 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Graded readers in Ancient Greek -poll
Replies: 50
Views: 29993

Re: Graded readers in Ancient Greek -poll

I didn't want to start a new thread but I've recently discovered a new reader. Its title is Animal story . You may find it at the end of this page in pdf: https://anderson.modelcrafts.eu/ancient-greek/ In my opinion, it's a good choice for those (real) beginners looking for non demoralizing, yet gra...
by Gonzalo
Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:44 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Query about σωος
Replies: 9
Views: 4481

Re: Query about σωος

To my knowledge, it was formed by analogy with πρᾷος, πρᾷα, πρᾷον. How do you know that? It's an elementary question in Greek declension (and accordingly I haven't given any Grammar reference) but if you should need a reference, here you have: Raphael Kühner; Friedrich Blass [1890], Ausführliche Gr...
by Gonzalo
Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:40 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Query about σωος
Replies: 9
Views: 4481

Re: Query about σωος

Why does σωος decline like ἡμετερος if its stem does not end in ι, ρ or ε ? In other words, why is the feminine sg σωα, σωαν etc and not σωη, σωην etc? Thank you in advance To my knowledge, it was formed by analogy with πρᾷος, πρᾷα, πρᾷον. As it had iota subscriptum, the rule you mentioned above wo...
by Gonzalo
Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:48 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Beginner, grammar questions
Replies: 8
Views: 3856

Re: Beginner, grammar questions

Hi, Erik! both sentences are right and I don't see where they could trouble you but ask if you have any concrete doubt. For the moment, they are fine. The other sentence (John 7:34; min. 46:46 of this recording) has a subordinate clause (sentences beginning with a relative pronoun, adverb,...) and a...
by Gonzalo
Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:27 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Bagavad Gita in katharevousa/Attic greek
Replies: 11
Views: 6878

Re: Bagavad Gita in katharevousa/Attic greek

Besides the articles in academic journals and Kargakos' book on Galanos' life, there is a wonderful film about the man here much better than the book. Galanos work is very useful for anyone who is in the path of learning Greek and Sanskrit at the same time. In my case it was first Greek and then I d...
by Gonzalo
Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:48 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Specialized lexica by author
Replies: 4
Views: 2544

Re: Specialized lexica by author

Behold! - Index Aristotelicus (Bonitz) - Radice's Lexicon Aristotelicum ( Amazon and review ; accessible from academic institution ip which has subscription to the lexicon) - Фохт, Борис Александрович: Lexicon Aristotelicum ( link ) - Kappes, M, Aristoteles-lexicon : erklärung der philosophischen te...
by Gonzalo
Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:29 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Specialized lexica by author
Replies: 4
Views: 2544

Re: Specialized lexica by author

- Thucydides, Lexicon Thucydidaeum; a dictionary, in Greek and English of the words, phrases, and principal idioms, contained in the History of the Peloponnesian war of Thucydides - Plato, Lexicon Platonicum; sive, Vocum Platonicarum index (Ast, Friedrich); I lessici a Platone di Timeo Sofista e Pse...
by Gonzalo
Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:05 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Beginner, grammar questions
Replies: 8
Views: 3856

Re: Beginner, grammar questions

I'm so glad that it was useful and don't hesitate to post your questions, because you will find here a very useful resource for your studies! Regarding the other questions: 1.- But why is θεὸς in nominative instead of in dative showing who God loves? Isn't the subject Αὐτὸς? Can there be two subject...
by Gonzalo
Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:33 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Beginner, grammar questions
Replies: 8
Views: 3856

Re: Beginner, grammar questions

Hallo, Erik, I am going to correct your sentences with help of the original English and then I will give you a little better Greek version of your own sentences. Mainly there is a difference among αὐτός/οὗτος, which neither is respected by all author buy one should bear in mind anyway. 1. καλῳ παντί...
by Gonzalo
Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:22 am
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: Ἤθικα τῶν πατέρων
Replies: 3
Views: 3556

Re: Ἤθικα τῶν πατέρων

Παρέργως ἐπικοινωνῶ ἡμῖν τοῖς φιλεβραίοις τήνδε τὴν γραφήν, ἧστινος ἕνεκε δύνασθε τὰ ἠθικὰ τῶν πατέρων ἅπαντα ἀκούειν. Ἆρ' ἔτι οἴδατε;
by Gonzalo
Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:30 pm
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: Ἤθικα τῶν πατέρων
Replies: 3
Views: 3556

Re: Ἤθικα τῶν πατέρων

Τὴν μὲν μετάφρασιν τὴν παρὰ σοῦ ἐκπονηθεῖσαν σφόδρα ἐπαινῶ, ὦ 'γαθέ, ἐπειδὴ ἔγωγε τὰ νῦν τὴν τῶν Ἑβραίων φωνὴν μανθάνω. Χάριτας δὲ ὡς πλείστας σοι ὁμολογῶ ἅτε τοιαῦτα καὶ δὴ καὶ τοσαῦτα εὐεργετήματα τοῖς τὴν Ἑβραϊκὴν μανθάνοσι πορίσαντι. Σχεδὸν ἀνέγνων ἅπαντα τὸν βίον τοῦ Ἀκῖβα παρὰ τοῦ Finkelstein ...
by Gonzalo
Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:02 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Good Modern Greek Pronounciation Resources for Ancient Greek
Replies: 6
Views: 3632

Re: Good Modern Greek Pronounciation Resources for Ancient G

I've also found this good reading of the Gospel of John:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wYTwncZNOY

There is also this site:
http://www.vivlos.net/kaini.html

Although I'm not able to download the mp3 files.
by Gonzalo
Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:33 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: COLLOQUIA PERSONARUM Audio
Replies: 3
Views: 2779

Re: COLLOQUIA PERSONARUM Audio

Hi! I have found your recording quite good from every pont of view. I would like to hear more such registrations. I myself recorded all the dialogues here but I'd rather hear from another voice than mine, because it's a bit embarrasing hearing always your own voice. So I encourage you to continue wi...
by Gonzalo
Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:20 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Martialis I.10 (Metric)
Replies: 2
Views: 1295

Re: Martialis I.10 (Metric)

It's a limping iambic trimeter (in Latin "senarius claudus"), basically an iambic trimeter where the last iamb has been replaced with a trochee. The last syllable of immo should be short, otherwise your scanning seems all correct. The basic structure is: x - u - x - u - u - - x where x can stand fo...
by Gonzalo
Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:50 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Martialis I.10 (Metric)
Replies: 2
Views: 1295

Martialis I.10 (Metric)

Hi! I am getting a little trouble with the meter in this epigram ( Epigrammaton liber I.10 ): Petit Gemellus nūptias Marōnillæ et cupit et instat et precātur et dōnat. Adeōne pulchra est? Immō fœdius nīl est. Quid ergō in illā petitur et placet? Tussit. Here it's my "scansion" (- syllaba longa , v s...
by Gonzalo
Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:03 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Easy/Graded Attic Greek reader?
Replies: 23
Views: 20828

Re: Easy/Graded Attic Greek reader?

Hi, Aloimonon, I'm glad that you liked that one. It's very interesting the Grammar book you provided. Thesaure, from what I've read hither and thither (I don't remember the other place) it's a traditional reading book used in Greece. Since I'm not Greek, I cannot say properly in which extent it's be...
by Gonzalo
Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:40 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Easy/Graded Attic Greek reader?
Replies: 23
Views: 20828

Re: Easy/Graded Attic Greek reader?

Since we're talking about Morice's stories... I'm going to finish Athenaze II pretty soon, and I want to buy myself a little gift as a reward. From me to me! I have been very interested in getting Morice's stories, because it looks really entertaining and has big, good-looking text font. I have hig...
by Gonzalo
Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:52 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Easy/Graded Attic Greek reader?
Replies: 23
Views: 20828

Re: Easy/Graded Attic Greek reader?

Maybe this one could help. It's easy to read and delightful. Regards!
by Gonzalo
Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:55 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Any new beginners' groups in Greek starting up?
Replies: 14
Views: 4937

Re: Any new beginners' groups in Greek starting up?

If you refer to our collaborative blog, of course, it's still on. The idea is still the same. If you want to participate, write here (or privately) an e-mail address or any google/blogger account which I can send an invitation to and you'll get the access to the blog to publish your lessons. I mysel...
by Gonzalo
Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:49 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: Ὁμιλίας ?ῆτ?αι, μάθημα τὸ τ?ί
Replies: 3
Views: 5544

Re: Ὁμιλίας ?ῆτ?αι, μάθημα τὸ τ?ί

Swth\r wrote:I can not read anyting at all. Is it my problem only??? What is the theme of your post???
They were formul salutandi or colloquial formules for Attic as he did also with Latin. It was readable in the other Textkit but now I am not either able to read the letters.
by Gonzalo
Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:27 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Hearing Latin Pronounced?
Replies: 18
Views: 13269

Re: Hearing Latin Pronounced?

Hi, I am beginning to learn Latin now, at age 58. Can somebody direct me to a source that audibly voices Latin words? I am studying Wheelock's Latin and Hans H. Orberg's Lingva Latina, Pars I, Familia Romana. Obviously, to hear some of these words spoken aloud would be invaluable to the learning pr...
by Gonzalo
Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:56 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Hearing Latin Pronounced?
Replies: 18
Views: 13269

Re: Hearing Latin Pronounced?

Trimalchio wrote:There's a radio station of some sort that only speaks Latin on the web. I forget the URL but I'm sure Google could help you.
YLE Nuntii Latini
by Gonzalo
Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:28 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Any new beginners' groups in Greek starting up?
Replies: 14
Views: 4937

Re: Any new beginners' groups in Greek starting up?

Hi, Well, I've been working on a beta version for the blog. I have to type the two exercises which lack and we have the second lesson (one is a mere translation to Latin of O ΔΟΥΛΟΣ and the other one consists in the questions shown at the end of the second lesson). I need also to write about the blo...
by Gonzalo
Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:17 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Hi There!
Replies: 5
Views: 2084

Re: Hi There!

Yes, but with some caution because not all those writers are good ones and you could find that some authors use expressions taken from their own language which don't make any sense at all in Latin. Anyway, Justus Lipsius, Joseph Justus and Julius Caesar Scaliger, Pico della Mirandola, Melanchthon, V...
by Gonzalo
Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:03 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Hi There!
Replies: 5
Views: 2084

Re: Hi There!

Hi and welcome, It depends upon the Latin you are dealing with. If we speak of mere Latin used by humanists from XVI-XVIII centuries (not counting Italian humanists as Dante, Petrarca, Boccaccio, &c., because their Latin is -mainly orthographically different), it tries to imitate Classical style (ba...
by Gonzalo
Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:41 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Any new beginners' groups in Greek starting up?
Replies: 14
Views: 4937

Re: Any new beginners' groups in Greek starting up?

Hi, Thanks for your advise. I have begun from chapter second and I am recording the exercises on a note-book. I don't have microphone but I do have microphone from my mp3 player, so eventually I will record some lessons. Another thing I would like to consider is Attic blogging. I do have a Commonpla...
by Gonzalo
Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:01 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Merry Christmas!
Replies: 7
Views: 2796

Re: Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas! And now here we go with the Greek: και ποιμενες ησαν εν τη χωρα τη αυτη αγραυλουντες και φυλασσοντες φυλακας της νυκτος επι την ποιμνην αυτων και ιδου αγγελος κυριου επεστη αυτοις και δοξα κυριου περιελαμψεν αυτους και εφοβηθησαν φοβον μεγαν και ειπεν αυτοις ο αγγελος μη φοβεισθε ιδ...
by Gonzalo
Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:20 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Any new beginners' groups in Greek starting up?
Replies: 14
Views: 4937

Re: Any new beginners' groups in Greek starting up?

Hi,

I have completed the first volume of Athenaze without much success and I am going to begin from the very first chapter onwards. I would like to develop more writing and expressive skills in Attic so, if such a group begins, I'll join.

Regards,
Gonzalo
by Gonzalo
Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:48 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: first cicero
Replies: 2
Views: 1239

Re: first cicero

Hi, I don't know which is exactly your level nor your preference but, in my opinion, Tusculan disputations . I am not any kind of expert, just another autodidact student but I am enjoying the reading and I have been writing some commentaries on this work at a blog . It's been stopped for a while but...