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by Arvid
Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:57 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Double Negatives
Replies: 10
Views: 6122

As far as I know, Modern English and Classical Latin are unique in this "Two negatives make a positive" rule, at least among Indo-European languages. It's always been my understanding that negatives just reinforced each other in English until the 18th Century prescriptivists (Samuel Johnson et. al.)...
by Arvid
Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:36 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Hmm... just a thought...
Replies: 3
Views: 1119

I learned this from WKRP in Cincinnati! When someone called Les Nessman obtuse, he had to look it up: "More than 90 degrees, but less than 180 degrees; Dull-witted or lacking in understanding; Rounded at the free end." "I just paid $10 to learn I'm rounded at the free end!" Seriously, maybe the core...
by Arvid
Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:11 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ecce Romani
Replies: 30
Views: 21017

A similar problem exists for sanskrit. No one has spoken classical sanskrit for 2000 years (I hope I am correct on this point) as a native language. Yet even up to the modern era works of great poetic beauty were produced in a supposedly dead language. "Samskrta" means "finished, complete," (I thin...
by Arvid
Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:15 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Dipthong, Digraph, iota subscript
Replies: 6
Views: 3025

It depends on what time in Greek history we choose. By classical Roman times Attic Greek υ had changed to [ü], and ου to [ū], and ει to [ī], as Latin transcriptions show. Greek pronunciation did not stand still. No, I certainly agree that these changes had taken place by Roman times; in particular,...
by Arvid
Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:12 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Dipthong, Digraph, iota subscript
Replies: 6
Views: 3025


by Arvid
Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:18 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Pre-World War English accents
Replies: 14
Views: 3657

Actually, he was a Navy Captain, so it's the same thing.
by Arvid
Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:34 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Pre-World War English accents
Replies: 14
Views: 3657

By the way, that's all it was meant to be, was funny: I love listening to a New York/New Jersey accent! No hard feelings, Okay?
by Arvid
Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:43 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Pre-World War English accents
Replies: 14
Views: 3657


by Arvid
Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:49 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Ge'ez?
Replies: 3
Views: 1447

In the Praefatio, the author states that this book is to help the youths and learned men in their study of the "Geez linguam." Do you study Ge'ez? Is it an interesting language/literature? Thanks for downloading and looking at it, thesuarus. I was too lazy to do it. I was also too lazy to look thro...
by Arvid
Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:40 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Pre-World War English accents
Replies: 14
Views: 3657

Up until the end of World War II, I think the prestige dialect was non-rhotic: the New England dialect of old-money Ivy League types like the Roosevelts. America being America, though, I don't think Prestige Dialects mean the same as in Britain or especially in other languages like French. I think t...
by Arvid
Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:28 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Ge'ez?
Replies: 3
Views: 1447

Ge'ez?

I remember someone expressing an interest in Ge'ez at one point. When August Dillman in 1866 in his Chrestomathia Aethiopica, newly available on Internet Archive, refers to the "Ethiopic Language," does he mean Ge'ez or Amharic?
by Arvid
Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:04 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Arateia Notia
Replies: 0
Views: 1322

I was about to chime in on this whole little-endian/big-endian question on your other poem; thanks for clarifying that. I've run into this before, probably because I'm running a Power PC Mac, and they chose to make the PPC chip use the opposite format from everybody else, so if anybody's in the same...
by Arvid
Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:24 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Erasmus Roterodamus: Colloquia
Replies: 7
Views: 5625

Transcribing books is of course much more time-consuming than scanning them, so Project Gutenberg will always be behind Google Books, but the good news is, they have to pay some attention to what they're doing! They have a few works by Erasmus here . Of course, their selection of Latin works is smal...
by Arvid
Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:17 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: English Grammar Question
Replies: 62
Views: 14304

Remember how many presidents were Virginians, and how the southerners preened themselves on being so much more refined than all those pasty-faced shopkeepers from the north.
by Arvid
Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:14 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Baghdad Battery
Replies: 1
Views: 828

I think the consensus is that these things were a primitive kind of electroplating cell, which is amazing enough, but we don't have to picture them conducting current out of them with wires and using it to...do what, exactly? Nobody ever suggests anything.
by Arvid
Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:08 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ?κβαίνω
Replies: 3
Views: 1356

You get the same kind of bracketing in German: "Ich sah durch ihn durch." At least in Greek the prefix stays attached to the verb!
by Arvid
Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:13 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: An introduction
Replies: 10
Views: 2564

Wow! I had always understood that Genji Monogatori was simply the best known of a whole genre called "Women's Literature" because it was totally spelled out in Kana. (The implication being that women weren't educated enough to read or write Kanji--don't shoot the messenger, please!) Since I certainl...
by Arvid
Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:14 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: English Grammar Question
Replies: 62
Views: 14304

I agree--I think that's the explanation for the ascendancy of the Harry Reasoner/Eric Sevareid dialect after WWII. The British long before that had standardized a pronunciation called "BBC English" for the same purpose. It was definitely an upper-class dialect, but got rid of some of the more extrem...
by Arvid
Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:28 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: English Grammar Question
Replies: 62
Views: 14304

"American Standard" also varies with time. Up to the Civil War, Southern was the prestige dialect in this country. (That's the term you want, by the way: "Prestige Dialect." Like "Received Pronunciation" in Britain.) Then, for the next 80 years, New England took its place. Teachers all over the coun...
by Arvid
Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:00 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronunciation of r
Replies: 8
Views: 5905

Sorry--I misunderstood. I just naturally think of a "growl" as coming from the back of the mouth or throat. I agree: "purring" with the tongue-tip is the only way to go. I'm doing it at my cat right now, and he seems fascinated!
by Arvid
Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronunciation of r
Replies: 8
Views: 5905

I'm almost certain that I read grammarians in Keil (Grammatici Latini) talking about the animal sound of an "r", so I wouldn't say yee0890's reference is "thoroughly wrong", Arvid, but is correct (in terms of how it was described in early works). I just find it really, really hard to believe that L...
by Arvid
Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:56 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronunciation of r
Replies: 8
Views: 5905

This sounds like it could be a description of the Uvular "r", as in German, or the standard English "r." In either case, I think he's pretty thoroughly wrong.
by Arvid
Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:20 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Google Books Question
Replies: 2
Views: 1072

Try manybooks.net . Unfortunately, Project Gutenberg only has .txt versions, so let manybooks convert it for you. It's a great site, and they have pretty much PG's entire collection, if you don't want any of the really fancy illustrated HTML editions. In that case, Project Gutenberg is the place to ...
by Arvid
Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:39 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronunciation used at LATINUM PODCAST
Replies: 81
Views: 37915

— although the issue is probably more common with Italians, mostly that's a stereotype. It is a stereotype, and the Italians unfairly get most of the attention for it, but native speakers of many other languages tend to add these schwas between words to break up some of the more congested consona...
by Arvid
Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:02 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Quick Pronunciation Question
Replies: 8
Views: 2501

I think you're right: the first "i" is consonantal. I would pronounce them "har-pü-yai" and "har-pü-yees." I expect a lot of people will tell me I'm wrong, though, so let me save you the trouble: I'm probably wrong!
by Arvid
Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:45 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Can we use the greek alphabet to write others languages?
Replies: 5
Views: 2557

The Greek alphabet is really a blunt instrument when it comes to writing down phonological distinctions, especially if they differ from those of Greek. Don't get me wrong: it was a tremendous invention, one of the greatest in history. It was marvelously easy to learn, and perfectly adequate for a na...
by Arvid
Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:40 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: New philologist
Replies: 7
Views: 2240

Even we Epicureans are happy to see someone so young get into Classics with such enthusiasm. Hope this is the start of a trend!

Welcome to the group!
by Arvid
Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:34 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: A Commentary on Herodotus by How & Wells
Replies: 3
Views: 2487

I'm not sure how big the hurdle was for the copyright issue... I wondered about that too, but Project Gutenberg is really scrupulous on copyright issues. (A lot more so than I would be--death plus 70 years? Give me a break!) Since the second edition was published between 1923 and 1963, either it wa...
by Arvid
Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:24 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Stormy weather
Replies: 6
Views: 1539

Glad to hear it wasn't any worse, and I hope the highway gets cleared before you need to use it. We've had really bad floods here in Western Washington, and a number of roads are closed till summer, at least. We had our really bad windstorm a couple of weeks ago, followed by torrential rain, which d...
by Arvid
Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:44 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: A Commentary on Herodotus by How & Wells
Replies: 3
Views: 2487

A Commentary on Herodotus by How & Wells

New on Project Gutenberg last night: A brand-new, totally re-edited edition of A Commentary on Herodotus by How and Wells. Based on a scan of the Oxford edition, helped out by the (incomplete) Perseus edition, and in a PDF file (for once!) Enjoy!
by Arvid
Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:22 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Days of the Week
Replies: 10
Views: 3663

The page which allows you to download the volume never completes loading. Internet Archive has been having a lot of problems lately. When I found this, I looked at the page for volume 1, then looked at a couple more, and then when I tried to get back volume 1, I couldn't. This is after they'd been ...
by Arvid
Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:11 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Days of the Week
Replies: 10
Views: 3663

Well, surely everything one would want to know on the subject must be in one or the other of the SIX volumes (!!) of: Origines Kalendarlae hellenicae, or The history of the primitive calendar among the Greeks, before and after the legislation of Solon by Edward Greswell, that just appeared on the In...
by Arvid
Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:20 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Listening to Greek
Replies: 36
Views: 7986

Καί is sometimes rendered as ga/i. so sounds it to me. This is the way it's going to sound to an English speaker. Since our unvoiced stops are aspirated, and voiced ones unaspirated, if we hear an unaspirated stop, it sounds like a voiced stop to us. It's so hardwired into our brains by the age of ...
by Arvid
Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:46 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Happy New Year
Replies: 15
Views: 3407

Happy first year of the 696th Olympiad, ______ being Archon in Athens!

Anybody know what to put in the blank?
by Arvid
Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:14 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Persian learning resources?
Replies: 9
Views: 3403

There's lots of Persian pop music to be had on internet radio stations — these days most of that music is coming out of Iranian diaspora communities (Houston, LA, and Oslo if Arash is any indicator). Now this is Farsi; I had assumed that thesaurus' original question had to do with the cultural la...
by Arvid
Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:26 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: external harddrive / flashdrive
Replies: 5
Views: 2291

Flash memory is like a dream come true--admittedly it comes just as regular hard drives have achieved a revolution in capacity with vertical recording, so they're not going to be replaced immediately. For me, in using either of them as a secure backup, I can't escape the feeling that the longevity o...
by Arvid
Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:19 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Why an iPod?
Replies: 48
Views: 14307

Especially the engine - it would be difficult for me to drive if I couldn't hear my engine - I have a manual transmission without a tach, and without the hum of the engine I'd have to guess everything. I agree with you on this. I have one car, though, that has an automatic with a tachometer. Could ...
by Arvid
Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:14 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Why an iPod?
Replies: 48
Views: 14307

Are you serious? Not only are there many lossless formats, but in most instances you cannot tell it's been compressed unless you're playing it off of some rather sophisticated equipment, and even then it's hard. 256 kpb is hardly going to cause bleeding of the ear. You're right--256 kb/s is not as ...
by Arvid
Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:10 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Why an iPod?
Replies: 48
Views: 14307

There are cheaper mp3 players on the market and if all you want is to use them like an old-fashioned Walkman they're more than fine. When you buy an iPod you're paying for the design, the ease-of-use, and the seamless integration with iTunes and Mail and Address Book, etc. If that's not worth it to ...
by Arvid
Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:58 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Days of the Week
Replies: 10
Views: 3663

I don't think the Ancient Mediterranean civilizations were familiar with the seven-day week until they were heavily influenced by Persian ideas after Alexander. The early Romans had an eight-day week; I don't know when they adopted the Hellenistic week and adapted the names for the days. It would ha...