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by Polyidos
Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:12 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Is there a dictionary that gives syllable lengths
Replies: 2
Views: 4226

Re: Is there a dictionary that gives syllable lengths

I'm sorry to see that nobody responded to your question in a timely manner, but let me try to offer some assistance at this point. First, it probably helps to reserve the terms 'long' and short' for vowels (or diphthongs) and note that they refer to the amount of time taken to pronounce these sounds...
by Polyidos
Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:55 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Nominative Third Person Personal Pronouns
Replies: 2
Views: 2755

Re: Nominative Third Person Personal Pronouns

Just to be precise, third person pronouns are in fact not personal but rather anaphoric. That is, they refer back to another linguistic unit. The first and second person pronouns are 'personal' in the sense that they refer to the (nominally) two direct participants in a conversation. They are also d...
by Polyidos
Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:41 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: LSJ punctuation blues
Replies: 32
Views: 13896

Re: LSJ punctuation blues

I referred to a "general form of usage" when I asked: "So then you might reply πρός is usually used with verbs of sending. "Or perhaps you might reply, a range of different constructions is used with verbs of sending, or in Greek generally, but πρός brings out the semantics most clearly?" But, I re...
by Polyidos
Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:23 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: LSJ punctuation blues
Replies: 32
Views: 13896

Re: LSJ punctuation blues

I completely agree with you that changing a preposition in a quoted line is not at all a common practice of lexica writers. Since LSJ does go to great lengths to identify their citations, and thus any interested party can verify and check the citations, I don't think they would alter quotations at ...
by Polyidos
Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:08 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: LSJ punctuation blues
Replies: 32
Views: 13896

Re: LSJ punctuation blues

What about quotation marks? About half of the Greek phrases here get them: If I look up that article in the paper version of the LSJ there are no quote marks at all. Also, the Perseus version of the article often abbreviates the headword as ς. whereas the paper version uses σ. which is clearly the ...
by Polyidos
Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:44 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: LSJ punctuation blues
Replies: 32
Views: 13896

Re: LSJ punctuation blues

In the paper version of LSJ, both of these are once again subheadwords, if I may use that term. The headword for the first is ναυβᾰτ-έω with again the abbreviated subheadword given as -ης, ου, ὁ, (βαίνω) seafarer, seaman ... . Once again, the Perseus project's editorial decision to unroll this compr...
by Polyidos
Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:37 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: LSJ punctuation blues
Replies: 32
Views: 13896

Re: LSJ punctuation blues

Very good. Very promising. This is very exciting! OK, just a few more questions. 1) Why is it Pass. and not Med.? I assume you are referring to κεκλάγξομαι? Personally, if I had been compiling the lexicon I would have been wary of documenting a passive form unless I had seen at least one instance w...
by Polyidos
Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:05 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: LSJ punctuation blues
Replies: 32
Views: 13896

Re: LSJ punctuation blues

The Textkit site was being difficult about posting, so I ended up with two copies of my post. I have modified the second copy to be this brief apology for double posting. Sorry about that!
by Polyidos
Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:05 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: LSJ punctuation blues
Replies: 32
Views: 13896

Re: LSJ punctuation blues

Very good. Very promising. OK, let me follow up. What is going on with Pass. here? I am not sure how there can be Pass. since the verb seems pretty intransitive. I looked at the Aristophanes. Actually there are two mp instances of the verb in the same sentence. ἵνα μὴ κεκλάγγω διὰ κενῆς ἄλλως ἐγώ: ...
by Polyidos
Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:00 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: LSJ punctuation blues
Replies: 32
Views: 13896

Re: LSJ punctuation blues

I won't say that I have a definitive answer, but I am willing to take a stab at one. First, I assume that your sample entry comes from the Perseus site. I went back to my paper copy of the Great Scott LSJ and discovered that the initial "A." is not part of the text. That is, the initial section read...
by Polyidos
Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:11 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Attic or Homeric first
Replies: 16
Views: 9315

Re: Attic or Homeric first

I didn't really mean to scare you away from Pharr's text. It covers the whole of the first book of the Iliad and gives you a dozen lessons to learn the basics before dropping you into the opening of the poem. It is a bit inconvenient to use (at least at first) because it lacks an index to the gramma...
by Polyidos
Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:35 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Difficulty of Homer?
Replies: 4
Views: 6193

Re: Difficulty of Homer?

Something that I read again and again is that trying to tackle Homer after the New Testament is a very difficult task and not for the faint-hearted, with little backing-up of that claim. I would strongly disagree with that assessment. For a long time most students began by studying Attic. Nobody ma...
by Polyidos
Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:03 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Pharr Lesson XX - English to Greek exercises
Replies: 3
Views: 3769

Re: Pharr Lesson XX - English to Greek exercises

Thanks for the feedback! I followed your suggestions and corrected the sentences below. 1. Σκῆπτρον καὶ στέμματα θεοῖο ὀυ χραισμήσουσι γέροντι, ἢ δηθύνοντι κοίλῃσι πάρα νηυσὶν ᾿Αχαιῶν μεγαθύμων ἢ ὕστερον αὖτις ἰόντι, τὸν γάρ ἐποιχήσεται ᾿Αγαμέμνων, ψυχὴν δὲ Ἄιδι προϊάψει. That looks much better. I ...
by Polyidos
Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:55 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Attic or Homeric first
Replies: 16
Views: 9315

Re: Attic or Homeric first

What does not work in Pharr? He seems to be very popular (and not just in Textkit) - which does not mean that it will work for everyone and I usually fare very badly with textbooks that everyone likes. Thus the question actually. And I am going to look up Benner's book - haven't even heard of it be...
by Polyidos
Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:14 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Pharr Lesson XX - English to Greek exercises
Replies: 3
Views: 3769

Re: Pharr Lesson XX - English to Greek exercises

It has been a few years since I went through Pharr (luckily with a Textkit study group), but I'll point out what I can. 1. The sceptre and the fillets of the god will not avail the old man (dat.) if he tarries (particip.) beside the hollow ships of the great-souled Achaeans, or if he returns later, ...
by Polyidos
Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:53 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Is anyone else bothered by that "Support" tab?
Replies: 19
Views: 8946

Re: Is anyone else bothered by that "Support" tab?

I don't know what you mean by "scroll backwards" but on my system, using Firefox, Ctrl+'scroll wheel scrolling down' reduces the font size while Ctrl+'scroll wheel scroll up' increases the font size. The same effect in Firefox is achieved via the keyboard using Ctrl '+' to increase the font size, Ct...
by Polyidos
Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:38 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Where to buy Oxford Classical Texts?
Replies: 14
Views: 8233

Re: Where to buy Oxford Classical Texts?

I can't say that I know of booksellers who sell OCT titles at substantial discounts but there are several book search aggregators, in addition to vialibre, that might help out. I have used bookfinder.com, biblio.com. and choosebooks.com (now ZVAB.com). Each search engine accesses many dozens of othe...
by Polyidos
Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:47 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Is anyone else bothered by that "Support" tab?
Replies: 19
Views: 8946

Re: Is anyone else bothered by that "Support" tab?

But it doesn't interfere with otherwise good presentation of discussion texts in these forums? I've been visiting Textkit for many years now and I haven't noticed any difficulties with the fora. The NoScript add-on allows one to pick and choose what scripts are run so if there are any concerns abou...
by Polyidos
Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:09 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Is anyone else bothered by that "Support" tab?
Replies: 19
Views: 8946

Re: Is anyone else bothered by that "Support" tab?

I use Firefox with the NoScript add-on. If one does not enable scripts from Zendesk.com the "Support" object is not displayed at all. However, if I do enable those scripts, the "Support" object is displayed in the left margin, but does not overlap any of the text areas. I suppose that could be due t...
by Polyidos
Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:21 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Pharr Lesson IX Exercises
Replies: 6
Views: 8614

Re: Pharr Lesson IX Exercises

The literal translation seems to be: "Who speaks these your evil deeds to Priam?" I read this as Priam himself speaking to someone (hence σὰ - 'your'), and Priam is asking who the hearer (who had apparently just spoken to Priam) is who has the audacity to speak of the evil deeds to Priam. But this ...
by Polyidos
Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:49 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Outside links of interest forum?
Replies: 2
Views: 1257

Re: Outside links of interest forum?

I locked the forum to control spam. They are not lost. I need to go through all the posts and ensure they are not spam - most are not. I don't know if I will continue that board or not without moderation help because in this day and age of link building, the board is a bit of a liability. I'm glad ...
by Polyidos
Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:00 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Outside links of interest forum?
Replies: 2
Views: 1257

Outside links of interest forum?

It's certainly great to see the fruits of Jeff's labor on the site upgrade, but I couldn't help but notice that the "Outside links of interest" forum is AWOL. Are all those posts history, or is there still a chance that they will reappear? I saw a post indicating that the forum was "locked", or at l...
by Polyidos
Sat May 09, 2009 8:01 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Printing errors in Pharr book still?
Replies: 8
Views: 6677

Re: Printing errors in Pharr book still?

I must have a copy from the first printing since it gives no indication of a printing number. It's good to know that they corrected their error. I just noticed that in my copy the content of pages 331 and 332 are the same. They are recto and verso of a single leaf so to correct the error all they ha...
by Polyidos
Fri May 08, 2009 10:03 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Study Group
Replies: 149
Views: 45571

Re: Study Group

Chalk up one more for the group. I have already contacted Jason offline to see if he would accept another learner. He agreed and so I have subscribed to the "official" mailing list and the temporary one. I just wanted to make my presence publicly known as well before we actually begin. I originally ...
by Polyidos
Fri May 08, 2009 9:33 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Printing errors in Pharr book still?
Replies: 8
Views: 6677

Printing errors in Pharr book still?

I purchased a copy of the revised edition of Pharr's Homeric Greek shortly after the Univiversity of Oklahoma Press released it. The copyright year is given as 1985 so that must be close to when I bought it. (The price back then was $11.95) I didn't notice anything unusual until one day I tried to l...
by Polyidos
Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:55 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Anyone starting Pharr
Replies: 91
Views: 61400

If it's not too late, and one more person won't overload the leader, I would like to sneak my name onto the list of people interested in joining the Pharr-C group. On the assumption that I may join, I will also contact Paul about setting up the GTSS account. Thanks in advance, and I hope to join in ...