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by Tertius Robertus
Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:04 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Alexandros : to Hellenikon Paidion
Replies: 23
Views: 10278

Re: Alexandros : to Hellenikon Paidion

The greek boy at home was designed by Rouse to be used in classroom as a companion to his other introductory book, first greek course. Rouse introduced the language to the students through verbal exercises, that is, once he mentioned the word and the construction he would chat with the students in a...
by Tertius Robertus
Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:21 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: French Wheelock?
Replies: 4
Views: 2854

Re: French Wheelock?

by Tertius Robertus
Tue May 23, 2017 10:47 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: Emere libros latinae
Replies: 4
Views: 5764

Re: Emere libros latinae

Brasiliae est taberna libraria ubi libros terris in aliis editos emere potes. http://www.livrariacultura.com.br/


Haec altera taberna est simillima illae, quam tibi bedverius ostendit: https://www.estantevirtual.com.br/
by Tertius Robertus
Tue May 23, 2017 8:10 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Fieri solebat
Replies: 3
Views: 2448

Re: Fieri solebat

You could ask the sentence something along these lines: quid fieri solebat? What was wonted to happen? The answer is the gigantic ut clause. Fieri requires a subject, which might be: 1 - a person/thing as in Julius adulescens fit; 2 - a complete sentence as in "ut pluat fit" Solere is usually constr...
by Tertius Robertus
Wed May 17, 2017 3:48 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help with Roma Aeterna?
Replies: 5
Views: 4196

Re: Help with Roma Aeterna?

If you are looking for translations to the lessons, you could check, say, perseus translations, or any other for that matter. The reason being this: that the texts in Roma Aeterna are for the most part selections taken from the classics, v.g., livy, cicero, ovid, sallust. The selections begin at the...
by Tertius Robertus
Sun May 14, 2017 11:15 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: confused by medieval manuscripts
Replies: 37
Views: 23832

Re: confused by medieval manuscripts

Would it be possible to construct, in medieval latin or in some other period, the verb dicere with a genitive gerund? Perharps I am being totally anachronistic and rather off the mark: but a equivalent construction can be found in modern romance languages. example: Il nous a dit de voyager. he told/...
by Tertius Robertus
Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:06 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Learning old [insert language name]
Replies: 4
Views: 2191

Re: Learning old [insert language name]

MHG is more uniform, and it’s the language of the Nibelungenlied. and I'm guessing you mean Mittelhochdeutsch? Good... To know the proper name of the language is a fine start. :D my best advice is to learn German, and then go from there, complementing it with textbooks only once you're done with th...
by Tertius Robertus
Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:08 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Learning old [insert language name]
Replies: 4
Views: 2191

Learning old [insert language name]

Greetings, I have considered for some time now to learn old norse, old english and old german, (not necessarily in this order, certainly not at the same time). Can anyone recommend me some fine resources to study them? If it is not useless to mention, I am primarily interested in literature, v.g., B...
by Tertius Robertus
Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:52 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: how do you learn 3rd declensions?
Replies: 37
Views: 8223

Re: how do you learn 3rd declensions?

and should I write all the subgroups declension 100 times each?
I did just that. :)

When(ever) a new word was introduced, I declined it 3 to 5 times, and then went straight to the exercises. In the end I think I repeated each paradigm 100 times or so.
by Tertius Robertus
Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:30 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: What kind of texts are hardest?
Replies: 23
Views: 7609

Re: What kind of texts are hardest?

Thanks for the reply. Almost all plants names in English that I know, I learnt by having them pointed out to me when a child. I think I will have to find someone learned to point me out the trees and theirs names. But... see below... It's a lot harder now I live in the city where there are few trees...
by Tertius Robertus
Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Informal Reading Survey
Replies: 16
Views: 3873

Re: Informal Reading Survey

A related question: book XXII of Livy (Bristol Classical Press) came today and just judging from a quick glance it looks to be aimed at a lower reading level than book XXI (same publishing house). In fact, book XXII seems to be a facsimile of an older, perhaps turn-of-the-century edition, looking a...
by Tertius Robertus
Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:04 pm
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: God of this, god of that
Replies: 3
Views: 2794

Re: God of this, god of that

Not exactly the same thing, but 2 Cor 4:4:...ὁ θεὸς τοῦ αἰῶνος τούτου ἐτύφλωσεν τὰ νοήματα τῶν ἀπίστων... A fitting god for such a world. Indeed, thanks for the example. So such reified classifications tend to be external to how they themselves (Greeks, Romans etc) talked about their deities. We li...
by Tertius Robertus
Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:25 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Informal Reading Survey
Replies: 16
Views: 3873

Re: Informal Reading Survey

In the past I had at hand a few monster links to googlebooks and the similar. Here it is. Greek and Roman works -- mainly mainstream authors http://minerva.union.edu/wareht/books/ Greek and Latin scientific texts, if this interests you http://www.wilbourhall.org/ From anytime christian texts http://...
by Tertius Robertus
Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:08 pm
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: God of this, god of that
Replies: 3
Views: 2794

God of this, god of that

Venus is the roman goddess of Love, Zeus the greek god of thunder, Thor the norse god of lightning. This is how these lovely creatures are introduced in school, in mythology dictionaries, and even in greek and latin textbooks. I have been wondering for some time whether in greek or latin there woul...
by Tertius Robertus
Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:57 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: What kind of texts are hardest?
Replies: 23
Views: 7609

Re: What kind of texts are hardest?

Vegetables... Trees, flowers, fragrances, Greek lettuces, mushrooms, and other annoying immovable living beings... It is quite difficult for me to understand these weird discussing things. I remember it was a living hell to read the Georgics. Does anyone have the same problem? Anyway, I wonder how p...
by Tertius Robertus
Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:23 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Adler: "aliquid" plus adjective
Replies: 3
Views: 1531

Re: Adler: "aliquid" plus adjective

C o m p a r a t i o est, cum aliquid factum, quod ipsum non sit probandum, ex eo, cuius id causa factum est, defenditur. I could not find a better example, but at nay rate aliquid can be modified by an adjective. The rule stated in Adler refers to substantives -- and adjectives taken as such -- in ...
by Tertius Robertus
Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:05 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Vocabulary
Replies: 9
Views: 6147

Re: Vocabulary

I do not know if this helps of not, but there is a list for the most frequent words in Homer, homeric vocabularies, by William Owen and Edgar Goodspeed, which can be found at archive dot org ou google books.
by Tertius Robertus
Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Question of Commentarri de Bello Gallico
Replies: 2
Views: 1293

Re: Question of Commentarri de Bello Gallico

It refers to Rhenus, which is masculine.
by Tertius Robertus
Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:40 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Aristotle De Interpretatione VII
Replies: 3
Views: 2004

Re: Aristotle De Interpretatione VII

Many thanks to you both for your answers. Well, yeah, this is hardcore analytical philosophy, as you realize. He’s discussing general propositions and their negations, and in context your bolded bit makes good sense: “There is a white man” (or “A white man exists,” or “White man exists”): “There is ...
by Tertius Robertus
Fri May 29, 2015 2:48 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Aristotle De Interpretatione VII
Replies: 3
Views: 2004

Aristotle De Interpretatione VII

Greetings, Here is an excerpt from Aristotle's De Interpretatione VII ἐὰν μὲν οὖν καθὀλου ἀποφαίνηται ἐπὶ τοῦ καθόλου ὅτι ὑπάρχει τι ἢ μή, ἔσονται ἐναντίαι αἱ ἀποφάνσεις. λέγω δὲ ἐπὶ τοῦ καθόλου ἀποφαίνεσθαι τοῦ καθόλου, οἷον πᾶς ἄνθρωπος λευκός, οὐδείς ἄνθρωπος λευκός. ὅταν δὲ τῶν καθόλου μέν, μὴ κ...
by Tertius Robertus
Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:53 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Orberg XLIII LnLn 42-48
Replies: 17
Views: 4204

Re: Orberg XLIII LnLn 42-48

Allaturum is the future participle of affero -- convey, inform, report, or whatever.

se aliquid allaturum -- [he says] he will convey [to him, i.e., to Tullo] something that is not less pertinent etc
by Tertius Robertus
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:22 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Declension of "Niobe"
Replies: 1
Views: 1894

Re: Declension of "Niobe"

Nom: Niobe, Voc: Niobe, Gen: Niobes, Dat: Niobae, abl: Niobe, acc: Nioben.
You can also decline it as a normal first declension noun, with the form Nioba, ae.
by Tertius Robertus
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:15 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Coepi
Replies: 3
Views: 2428

Re: Coepi

Use incipio for the present of coepisse, instead of coepio.
by Tertius Robertus
Wed May 05, 2010 2:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: a question re: Horace's hexameters
Replies: 6
Views: 2028

Re: a question re: Horace's hexameters

...|nere ve|lis ser|várequ' a|mícos ... -uu -- Does the elision nullify the accent displaced by the enclitic and replace it to the strong accent on the long penultimate of servare ? Am I missing something? :?: :? :( Why would the accent be displaced, since the e vowel in servare is short at the end...
by Tertius Robertus
Tue May 04, 2010 11:20 pm
Forum: The Agora
Topic: Ελληνικαὶ τῆς ?μιλίας ?ῆτ?αι
Replies: 6
Views: 13587

μέ

ἐπειδὴ τὰ γράμματα ἐπίσταμαι τὰ κρυτάδια, καὶ ἐπιτήδεια εἶναι τὰ μαθήματα οἴμαι, ἐκ τῶν κρυπτικῶν αὖτε ἑλληνίζων τὴν ἐπιστολὴν ἀνέπεμψα, ἴνα δὲ πᾶσι ᾖ αὖθις δυνατὸν ἀναγιγνώσκειν - οὐ γὰρ χαλεπὸν τὸ ἔργον, ἀλλὰ δὲ ῥᾴδιον. εἰ μὴν ὀλίγοι κὲν βούλοιντο ἀναγιγώσκειν, καλῶς δὲ ἔστω - πέμψομαι δὲ ἔγων κατ...
by Tertius Robertus
Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:54 am
Forum: The Agora
Topic: Ελληνικαὶ τῆς ?μιλίας ?ῆτ?αι
Replies: 6
Views: 13587

the decipherment of linear A

Μάθημα τὸ πρῶτον, πρὸς τὸ ἀσπάζεσθαι Good morning (afternoon, evening) = χαῖρε (if one person adressed); χαίρετε (if more than one person). To answer? Same way: χαῖρε, χαίρετε. You could add: καὶ σύ, καὶ ὑμεῖς . Other more complex formulae (ρῆτραι): Σοὶ χαίρειν καὶ εὖ πράττειν (εἴη) (Have a good da...
by Tertius Robertus
Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:11 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Learning strategies with Lingua Latina II?
Replies: 2
Views: 1208

Re: Learning strategies with Lingua Latina II?

My biggest problem is in the realm of vocabulary. So I would like to ask you all who have made it through LL2 (and also those of you who haven't) for any tips you might have in acquiring the vocabulary used in this second part of the series. I know I can look up the words I don't know, but I feel l...
by Tertius Robertus
Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:39 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: De Bello Gallico Book III Ch. 15
Replies: 7
Views: 1871

Re: De Bello Gallico Book III Ch. 15

His cum funes qui antemnas ad malos destinabant comprehensi adductique erant, navigio remis incitato praerumpebantur. Whenever the ropes, which bounded the sail-yards to the masts, were, by means of these (hooks), seized and pulled down, once the vessel was urged by the oars, they (the ropes) were ...
by Tertius Robertus
Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:34 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Linqua Latina, Capitulum X
Replies: 11
Views: 4157

Re: Linqua Latina, Capitulum X

The pronoun in the second clause is feminine - but it seems it must be referring back to 'Canis', which I believe is masculine based on the adjective 'amicus'.
it is "ea bestia" which refers back to dog: that beast (animal) is not feral (wild/untamable).
by Tertius Robertus
Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:33 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Livy
Replies: 2
Views: 1864

Re: Livy

some quick comments: Cum sui utrosque adhortarentur, deos patrios, patriam ac parentes, quidquid civium domi, quidquid in exercitu sit, illorum tunc arma, illorum intueri manus, feroces et suopte ingenio et pleni adhortantium vocibus, in medium inter duas acies procedunt this second part is to be ta...
by Tertius Robertus
Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:37 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: LL2 Help: Cap XXXVI
Replies: 2
Views: 1071

Re: LL2 Help: Cap XXXVI

My frustration mostly comes with narratur and how to construe the rest of the line in light of it. Is the subject qui or an impersonal "it?" Another option, I suppose, is "...who is said to have fallen headlong into the chasm made there armed with his horse. I think I might like this second option ...
by Tertius Robertus
Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:45 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: ad id pastores...
Replies: 1
Views: 1398

Re: ad id pastores...

And the population of the Albans and the Latins was excessive: to which the shepards also had to be added "were added" or "the shepards added to their numbers" instead of "had to be added" who altogether could easily accomplish hope "create hope" little Lavinium were going to be[?] in comparision t...
by Tertius Robertus
Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:19 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ablative of agent vs per + accusative
Replies: 13
Views: 4441

Re: Ablative of agent vs per + accusative

Occisus est ab Anci filiis, cum regnasset annis XXXVIII. Livy's periocha I B I too was taught that "a" was for authorship and "per" for means. Livy has the same sentence with "Ab" in his periocha, which, considering what is in his ab urbe condita, agrees with this "rule". A mistake perharps? other ...
by Tertius Robertus
Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:12 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Pliny
Replies: 8
Views: 3596

Re: Pliny

adeo solutus metu ut omnes illius mali motus, omnes figuras, ut deprenderat oculis, dictaret enotaretque being so free from fear, that, as soon as he saw all the movements, all the figures of that evil, he dictated and annotated (them). The ut here has a sense of time: as soon as, just after, and s...
by Tertius Robertus
Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:56 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: eousque
Replies: 3
Views: 1861

Re: eousque

O! thanks, folks!
by Tertius Robertus
Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:03 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: eousque
Replies: 3
Views: 1861

eousque

!!! Can someone explain me the meaning of eousque? I have never seen this before, nor could I find it in dictionaries and magical parsing machines (diogenes, words etc). I saw it here: Joannis Frensheimii supplementorum livianorum liber secundus. (paragraph XXVII) Deinde, quia belli propinquus metus...
by Tertius Robertus
Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:45 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Which one author to start with?
Replies: 16
Views: 4994

:D

thanks guys, xenophon's anabasis shall be my pick.

cheers!
by Tertius Robertus
Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:09 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Which one author to start with?
Replies: 16
Views: 4994

Which one author to start with?

Salvete, graeci! Since I have finished my grammar, I would like to start at once to read greek in the wild. Therefore, my question is: which one author to choose from? This such question has been asked before and has always been aswered in the following terms: "pick the one you are interested in". O...
by Tertius Robertus
Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:43 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Difficult transition: Lingua Latina to De Bello Gallico
Replies: 10
Views: 4149

Hello, I am just looking for some suggestions to help me get moving through this book. I can read through LL, any chapter, and know with certainty what it is saying, with the exception of a little of the poetry in chapter 34. Any chapter? Even those of the second volume? Have you finish volume 2? I...
by Tertius Robertus
Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:41 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: YLE Colloquia Latina forum reopened
Replies: 4
Views: 1864

Is this reopening permanent? :? I visited the site a couple of weeks ago, when it had just reopened, and then - surprise! - it dispeared again. :?