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by IreneY
Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:25 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Curses in Greek?
Replies: 14
Views: 58333

Re: Curses in Greek?

Sctibo,

The first bunch is from a book whose author I'm afraid I don't know. However you can check them on LSJ if you want. For instance, below is the entry for ΧΑΛΚΙΔΙΤΙΣ.

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/tex ... kidi%3Dtis
by IreneY
Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:00 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Curses in Greek?
Replies: 14
Views: 58333

Re: Curses in Greek?

Also found:
διαρραγείης "split you" (may you split)
ὄλοιο, ὄλοισθε, may'st thou, may ye perish ! a form of cursing very common in Trag.,
κνώδαλον brute

I should add my mom's favorite (I'm pretty partial to it too; what a way to call someone completely useless!): 'Αχθος αρούρης (burden to earth)
by IreneY
Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:39 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Curses in Greek?
Replies: 14
Views: 58333

Re: Curses in Greek?

I do love the "go to the crows" since we're still using it (Άι στον κόρακα in modern Greek) I found a list of ancient Greek bad words in a Greek site. The translation's mine and, therefore, so are any mistakes. ΑΝΑΣΕΙΣΙΦΑΛΛΟΣ a promiscuous woman; one that dangles a penis [ ανασεισίφαλλος = ανασείω +...
by IreneY
Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:38 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Forum Moderation
Replies: 1
Views: 1563

Re: Forum Moderation

As for me, the bridge of my glasses broke and I was in a really tight spot financially so for the longest time I was seeing the world through very, very skewed lenses.
by IreneY
Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:50 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Present vs Aorist Imperative
Replies: 16
Views: 16573

Re: Present vs Aorist Imperative

Hello there uberdwayne!

I'm afraid I'm not much of a scholar when it comes to the Bible so I can't think of any other examples out of hand. Perhaps we should search for some? :)
by IreneY
Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:32 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Present vs Aorist Imperative
Replies: 16
Views: 16573

Re: Present vs Aorist Imperative

I would say that, in general, the difference is between specific or general, whether that is related to how many times something happens or some other aspect. "Don't tie him up tightly this time" would be aorist , whereas "don't tie him up tightly from now on" would be present. In this particular ca...
by IreneY
Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:28 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Symposium 200 b9-c5
Replies: 9
Views: 3862

Re: Symposium 200 b9-c5

Bart I think you confused the forms (easy, they are similar).
ἐπιθυμήσειεν is 3rd person sing
ἐπιθυμήσειαν is 3rd person pl

Did that horrible verb (ειμί) confuse you?
by IreneY
Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:38 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Why Not Herodotos?
Replies: 31
Views: 12145

Re: Why Not Herodotos?

Scribo no never had Voskos, I think it was one of the most useless profs I've ever met by the name Xydas. At least I think so :)
by IreneY
Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:35 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Song of Seikilos
Replies: 28
Views: 14233

Re: Song of Seikilos

Ah! My apologies, I didn't read all the way through and, in my mind, it was a 1st century AD piece a transitory period when it comes to accents (and many other non linguistic things obviously :) )
by IreneY
Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:23 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Song of Seikilos
Replies: 28
Views: 14233

Re: Song of Seikilos

I do think that pitch accent had fallen by the wayside by then :?:
by IreneY
Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:17 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Why Not Herodotos?
Replies: 31
Views: 12145

Re: Why Not Herodotos?

Just so you know, if you do have some vocabulary help (for any words that are not common*), Herodotus is pretty simple. I never delved into Ionic but never had problems with Herodotus. There's a very definite but rather small list of differences between Ionic and Attic and, with a little bit of time...
by IreneY
Tue May 07, 2013 3:29 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Let's get real!
Replies: 48
Views: 24403

Re: Let's get real!

Yes I do. And the fact that I'm a native Greek speaker doesn't come into it in this case. I just find the distinction between the two, when we go away from pronouncing epsilon iota as a diphthong, something I'm not interested in. At all. That's just my take though ergo the smiley (can't believe I pu...
by IreneY
Tue May 07, 2013 2:43 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: taylor, beyond gcse: open conditional
Replies: 13
Views: 5675

Re: taylor, beyond gcse: open conditional

I was most definitely referring to modern Greek and how to make the linked site easier to use for non MG speakers! It never occurred to me that someone would try to use it for ancient Greek! True, since μέση also means "waist" in MG it's one of the translations (apparently the main one) but I though...
by IreneY
Tue May 07, 2013 2:39 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Let's get real!
Replies: 48
Views: 24403

Re: Let's get real!

Oh c'mon! That's not an argument worthy of a person who studies ancient Greek! The distance between not differentiating between epsilon iota and eta and having only one vowel is huge.
by IreneY
Tue May 07, 2013 8:49 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Let's get real!
Replies: 48
Views: 24403

Re: Let's get real!

Where's the "No, and I don't see the reason to do so" option in the poll? :D
by IreneY
Tue May 07, 2013 8:43 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: taylor, beyond gcse: open conditional
Replies: 13
Views: 5675

Re: taylor, beyond gcse: open conditional

googletranslate or any other such translation tool should give you accurate translations and you can always PM me (or any other member speaking modern Greek).
by IreneY
Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:15 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plb. 6.3: viva ὅσα!
Replies: 97
Views: 27401

Re: Plb. 6.3

Hey there! You mean whether it's όσα πολιτεύματα or not?
by IreneY
Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:43 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plb. 6.2.9
Replies: 8
Views: 3083

Re: Plb. 6.2.9

Ahh, some light starts to dawn μεγίστην δ᾽ αἰτίαν ἡγητέον ἐν ἅπαντι πράγματι καὶ πρὸς ἐπιτυχίαν καὶ τοὐναντίον τὴν τῆς πολιτείας σύστασιν: So you think that Ηγητέον εστί = our verb Την σύστασιν = its subject αιτίαν = the subject's attributive (Την σύστασιν αιτίαν ηγητέον εστί kind of thing) (see LSJ...
by IreneY
Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:55 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plb. 6.2.9
Replies: 8
Views: 3083

Re: Plb. 6.2.9

Ah, I see. Well, I can't help you there. I mean, if you have to call it something other than free word order, it's a plain old apposition.
by IreneY
Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:55 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plb. 6.2.9
Replies: 8
Views: 3083

Re: Plb. 6.2.9

Ah, I see. Well, I can't help you there. I mean, if you have to call it something other than free word order, it's a plain old apposition.
by IreneY
Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:21 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plb. 6.2.9
Replies: 8
Views: 3083

Re: Plb. 6.2.9

I'm not quite sure I follow you. Ηγητέον is not a participle, it's part of "ηγητέον εστί" (verbal adjective + to be = impersonal constuction)
by IreneY
Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:55 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Adv. abs. = ?
Replies: 5
Views: 2943

Re: Adv. abs. = ?

I'm almost a 100% sure it stands for "absolute".
by IreneY
Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:09 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Those Crazy Greeks
Replies: 5
Views: 2540

Re: Those Crazy Greeks

Nah, don't worry, I'm an obsessive creature looking for things to get obsessed with :D Now however I'm more confused since, upon listening to it again I heard the word "Graeculi" (which helped me find the original text) : Noli ergo mirari, si pictura defecit, cum omnibus dis hominibusque formosior v...
by IreneY
Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:32 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Those Crazy Greeks
Replies: 5
Views: 2540

Re: Those Crazy Greeks

Now it's driving me crazy (found it in the following link after logging in via facebook : http://movieclips.com/gx2A-fellini-saty ... n-for-art/ )

The first part sounds to me a bit like oloi oi grekoi (all the Greeks) but the last (sth like "taskema" is what I hear) I just can't place.
by IreneY
Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:37 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Lucian's The Ass translation
Replies: 4
Views: 2321

Re: Lucian's The a** translation

ὁ δὲ οἷον εἰκὸς ὁρων ἐμὲ κτῆμα παράδοξον τὴν μὲν τιμὴν τὴν ἐμὴν κελεύει τῶν διοικητῶν τινι καταβαλεῖν τῷ ἐμὲ ὠνασαμένῳ καὶ ἄλλο τοσοῦτον I would say it says that he ordered one of the officials to pay to whoever had bought Lucian before twice the price he paid for Lucian. So X orders Y to pay Z twic...
by IreneY
Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:16 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: What is this word? >.<
Replies: 1
Views: 1139

Re: What is this word? >.<

Hey there! You could also check the net eh? :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaerephon
by IreneY
Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:52 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Modern greek pronunciation
Replies: 8
Views: 4659

Re: Modern greek pronunciation

If you pronounce Ancient Greek as Modern Greek, you will make spelling errors galore. E.g. in Modern Greek eta, upsilon, ei, oi, ui, and eta-iota-subscript are all pronounced as iota. The same happened in Sanskrit in India due to a habit of pronouncing r-vocalic as 'ri', causing many inscriptional ...
by IreneY
Thu May 24, 2012 11:15 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Teaching Greek to Young Children
Replies: 5
Views: 3916

Re: Teaching Greek to Young Children

Well, provided we're both here (I know I will be) in 3 or 4 years' time, if you want any help with some little tricks on how to relate modern to ancient Greek just holler :)
by IreneY
Sun May 20, 2012 9:44 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Teaching Greek to Young Children
Replies: 5
Views: 3916

Re: Teaching Greek to Young Children

Hi there! If you want them to know both (modern Greek and reconstructed) you may want to start them on the reconstructed sooner rather than later. It may confuse them for a bit but the younger the kid the easier for them to handle it. See, I'm afraid that if you wait too long they may decide they do...
by IreneY
Tue May 15, 2012 11:18 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Modern greek pronunciation
Replies: 8
Views: 4659

Re: Modern greek pronunciation

Hey there! No, Greek pronunciation, for the "last" centuries hasn't bothered with any of these. Do keep in mind though that, although you don't have to bother with learning how to pronounce them, you should most definitely learn what goes where (accent marks, aspiration, subscripts, the works) for r...
by IreneY
Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:30 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Learning Modern Greek
Replies: 48
Views: 27234

Re: Learning Modern Greek

Well, if the ancient Greek name did not start with a vowel and took the acute (oxeia) accent yes :D . Ρόδος for instance or Κόρινθος. Or, I guess, if you find an older map before we ditched the polytonic system. The closest one I could find is some maps in this site http://diolkos.blogspot.com/2010/...
by IreneY
Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:58 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: about "para" + acc.
Replies: 9
Views: 2931

Re: about "para" + acc.

My apologies as a moderator.
by IreneY
Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:22 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: [MG] συνηθοῦσε
Replies: 2
Views: 2644

Re: [MG] συνηθοῦσε

Hey there!
While not as familiar with the Cretan dialect as a Cretan would be, I've heard quite a few verbs in "-ούσε" from Cretans so in all probability it is dialectal.
by IreneY
Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:45 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Need help with Herodot-passage
Replies: 1
Views: 1014

Re: Need help with Herodot-passage

Hey there! Copying the translation from Perseus Project: " Pisistratus ruled the Athenians, disturbing in no way the order of offices nor changing the laws, but governing the city according to its established constitution and arranging all things fairly and well" The original (copying again; I'm way...
by IreneY
Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:43 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Resources suggestions
Replies: 54
Views: 66567

Re: Resources suggestions

Yes, it would. Unfortunately we've run into a technical difficulty (there's no way I can input more than 10 links into one message; breaking up the resouces into many messages each containing only 10 links will make the thread cumbersome to navigate). When that problem's solved we will proceed.
by IreneY
Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:42 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Learning Modern Greek
Replies: 48
Views: 27234

Re: Learning Modern Greek

. I spend most of my team in Modern Greek....I don't think anyone would reasonably call it a beautiful language. I think native speakers would take an issue with that wouldn't you? :mrgreen: I mean I don't consider it the most beautiful language in the whole wide world but it's not such a plain lan...
by IreneY
Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:35 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: ἰσχύω
Replies: 2
Views: 2645

Re: ἰσχύω

Well, it does take an augment, but it's an invisible one :D
The iota becomes a long iota but since they are both written the same way we can't see it.
Check Smyth's grammar (or any other you want to obviously) about vowels and temporal augments (here's a link for Smyth's online)
by IreneY
Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:37 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Byzantine Greek
Replies: 3
Views: 3583

Re: Byzantine Greek

Glad I could be of some help. When it comes to pronunciation, yes, it had already started to by the time of Koine. With the exception of upsilon that continued to be pronounced differently throughout the Byzantine era as far as I remember, the rest can be roughly (very roughly) be divided in pre and...
by IreneY
Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:08 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Byzantine Greek
Replies: 3
Views: 3583

Re: Byzantine Greek

Hello there :) Well, Classical Greek can be rather helpful. Yes, Byzantine Greek is rather removed from Ancient Greek but a) Greek goes from more complex to more analytical as the centuries go by, so, by knowing ancient Greek, you pretty much are going from more difficult to easier. b) A great many ...
by IreneY
Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:20 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Thuc. 4.74
Replies: 4
Views: 1527

Re: Thuc. 4.74

I'm not spiphany but may I join? For the first of your remaning questions, I'd say it's that they chose around a hundred from 1) their enemies and b) those who were really working with the Athenians. What I'm not sure with this kind of distinction is who those "enemies" actually were. Perhaps people...