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by brookter
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: JACT: Exercise 1H-J4. accents on ἐστί
Replies: 5
Views: 595

Re: JACT: Exercise 1H-J4. accents on ἐστί

That's useful. Thanks very much for the quick reply!
by brookter
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:46 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: JACT: Exercise 1H-J4. accents on ἐστί
Replies: 5
Views: 595

JACT: Exercise 1H-J4. accents on ἐστί

Hi, Forgive the simple question, but I'm slightly confused by the placing of accents in the answer given (in the Independent Study Guide) to the following question: He is and he is not . ἔστι καὶ οὐκ ἔστιν. (My attempt was ἐστί καὶ οὐκ ἐστί.). Why has ἐστί become ἔστι? I assume it's because ἐστί is ...
by brookter
Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:59 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Translation of subjunctive
Replies: 2
Views: 1555

Re: Translation of subjunctive

Thank you!

Does that mean that the translation 'should' instead of 'would' is ruled out in this sentence? If so, how does one tell which use of one of the subjunctive's many shades of meaning is ruled out in such circumstances?

Cheers
by brookter
Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:34 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Translation of subjunctive
Replies: 2
Views: 1555

Translation of subjunctive

I'm coming back to studying Latin again after a few years, so a simple question, I hope... In Sharpley's Complete Latin Course, there's the following sentence: sī captīvus esset, domum nōn venīret which is translated as if he were a captive he would not be coming home . I thought at first that the m...
by brookter
Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:57 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocent
Replies: 7
Views: 3942

Re: Search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocen

Thanks, Adriane. I appreciate your help.
by brookter
Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:44 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocent
Replies: 7
Views: 3942

Re: Search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocen

Adrianus,

Thanks for the correction for the accusative.

One question, why the change from nouns to verbs? Is that simply a more Latin way of expressing ideas?
by brookter
Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:18 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocent
Replies: 7
Views: 3942

Re: Search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocen

Adriane, Thank you very much. For some reason, persecutio wasn't in the dictionaries I tried at first, then I became sidetracked by insectator. Seems obvious now! So in scelestes inquisitio, insontium persecutio I've spent a bit more time looking through the Perseus entry (Lewis and Short), and as f...
by brookter
Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:17 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocent
Replies: 7
Views: 3942

Re: Search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocen

Ah, I hope my question wasn't too dumb...

Has anybody got a better suggestion for the phrase "Search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocent" than in scelestis inquisitio, et insontium insectatio?

It doesn't feel right to me, but I can't think of how to improve it.

Many thanks

David
by brookter
Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:10 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocent
Replies: 7
Views: 3942

Search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocent

Somebody has asked me to translate this phrase into Latin, which I think comes from a humorous list of the stages of project management. The search for the guilty and the persecution of the innocent My initial attempt is something like: in scelestis inquisitio, et insontium insectatio but I'm not su...
by brookter
Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:36 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Do two singular nouns take a singular verb?
Replies: 6
Views: 3433

Re: Do two singular nouns take a singular verb?

Thank you all for the detailed replies: they are very helpful. It's interesting to see the distinction between things and persons: plenty to study...

Thanks again.
by brookter
Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:54 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Do two singular nouns take a singular verb?
Replies: 6
Views: 3433

Do two singular nouns take a singular verb?

In Lingua Latina Cap XII there is the following sentence:

Circum castra fossa et vâllum longum et altum est.

Why isn't 'sunt' used here? Would it be incorrect (and if so, why?) or is it a matter of style?

Thanks
by brookter
Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:11 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms
Replies: 14
Views: 6808

Re: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms

I did the same thing in full Dowling mode -- all the main paradigms written out 200 times till my hand hurt... but I found it easier to do maintenance learning on a spreadsheet where the feedback as to whether my ageing memory was failing (again) was very useful.
by brookter
Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:31 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms
Replies: 14
Views: 6808

Re: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms

Hi pmda, Thanks for your comments. Just to confirm, if you want to be able to write amo without macrons, you must use the second file ( https://db.tt/QBpK0dyp ). If you use the macron version ( https://db.tt/BuLTiLav ), then you MUST include every macron otherwise the conditional formatting won't wo...
by brookter
Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:34 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms
Replies: 14
Views: 6808

Re: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms

pmda, I've now updated the original post with 2 versions: the first is the original macron-enable file, with the conditional formatting amended so that it will work with previous versions. If you still can't get the macrons to work, then I suspect it's do with the way Excel on Windows deals with thi...
by brookter
Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:52 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms
Replies: 14
Views: 6808

Re: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms

Hi, glad there's a bit of progress! But please could you clarify what you mean by The version you uploaded works if macrons are not involved. If the word has a macron it doesn't work...if you don't use a macron... Do you mean that a) it doesn't work if you write amo or b) it doesn't work if you writ...
by brookter
Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:31 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms
Replies: 14
Views: 6808

Re: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms

Thanks for letting me know. I think I might have an idea of what's happening: do you by any chance have Excel 2003 or earlier? I've just dug out an old version of 2003 on XP and the conditional formatting doesn't work for me either. It looks like that 2003 is resetting all the conditional formatting...
by brookter
Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:05 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms
Replies: 14
Views: 6808

Re: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms

pmda, I've just tried it out on Windows and it works OK -- but this is on a Mac running Windows in Parallels, so that may be a factor. Unfortunately I don't have a Windows only machine to test it on. Apologies for the obvious question, but does it work when you type in a word that doesn't have a mac...
by brookter
Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:52 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms
Replies: 14
Views: 6808

Re: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms

Not sure, as they all work fine for me. Try this to test: copy a value from the right hand side, and paste it into the equivalent cell on the left, but using Edit > Paste Special and Values only. (If you use the standard paste it will overwrite the conditional formatting.) It's possible that there's...
by brookter
Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:36 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms
Replies: 14
Views: 6808

Excel spreadsheet for revising grammatical forms

I've been using an Excel spreadsheet I put together for revising the basic conjugations and declensions of Latin grammar: it's quite rough and ready, but I wondered if it would be of any use to any beginners on the forum. The spreadsheet simply uses the 'Conditional Formatting' feature to compare yo...
by brookter
Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:26 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lingua Latina per se Illustrata analogue
Replies: 6
Views: 5803

Re: Lingua Latina per se Illustrata analogue

You are not alone in your quest. I went so far as to call Pullins and ask if a PDF/eBook version was available. They do have a software version of Linuga Latina that has electronic versions of the text available (PC and Mac versions). However, the impression that I got was that this may mean that t...
by brookter
Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:03 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: For the most... epic?
Replies: 3
Views: 1439

Re: For the most... epic?

Of course, my apologies, didn't notice your professor's gender.... Sorry.
by brookter
Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:48 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ripman's "Classified Vocabulary" finally online
Replies: 17
Views: 14186

Re: Ripman's "Classified Vocabulary" finally online

Excellent Carole - I'm very grateful!
by brookter
Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:45 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: For the most... epic?
Replies: 3
Views: 1439

Re: For the most... epic?

Well, the adjective epicus is in the dictionary as 'heroic, epic', so how about

"o epicissime" ("O most epic one") or "epicissimo" ("to/for the most epic one")?

Even if the use of the epicus is not strictly how the Romans would have used it, he will surely get the joke?

David
by brookter
Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:33 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin read aloud with captions?
Replies: 7
Views: 7126

Re: Latin read aloud with captions?

I know that LL has a CD you can buy with the first 10 Cap.s in audio on it- does anyone know, is that a computer reading it aloud, or a recording of an actual person, going slow enough that I can follow along? Still, I'd feel bad buying it, as I am currently out of work and not exactly receiving my...
by brookter
Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:45 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Eliding 'est' in poetry (LLPSI XXXIV)
Replies: 4
Views: 1912

Re: Eliding 'est' in poetry (LLPSI XXXIV)

Thanks Laura, That makes sense and thinking back I've heard it in some of the readings I've found on the internet. So I had had all the information to answer my own question. Now what would Martial have made of that? Certainly something a lot better than this... Stultusque piger es, Davide, et cereb...
by brookter
Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:54 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Eliding 'est' in poetry (LLPSI XXXIV)
Replies: 4
Views: 1912

Re: Eliding 'est' in poetry (LLPSI XXXIV)

It does help, thanks!

Looking back, Orberg gives the example verum'st - I'd forgotten than -um, -am etc count as vowels for elision purposes. That's why I was confused... (again!)

Many thanks

David
by brookter
Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:58 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Eliding 'est' in poetry (LLPSI XXXIV)
Replies: 4
Views: 1912

Eliding 'est' in poetry (LLPSI XXXIV)

Salvēte amīcī, I've been steadily fighting my way through the levels of the Lingua Latina dungeon and now it's time to defeat the final Big Boss of poetry... (Cap. XXXIV). (Which is why, incidentally I started learning Latin again - I want to be able to read the Aeneid in Latin. A long way off still...
by brookter
Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:47 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect
Replies: 129
Views: 47329

Re: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect

"They" for "he/she" is certainly very common in British, to the point that its use is unremarkable, at least in speech.

Of course it's not ubiquitous and an individual may choose not to use it - but that's their choice...;-)
by brookter
Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:11 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect
Replies: 129
Views: 47329

Re: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect

Calvinist, An interesting paper - I've read the paragraph you point out and I've filed the link for more detailed reading later. It makes sense that there was a distinguishing feature between moods, and I had wondered why there wasn't in Latin - hence my interest in Adrianus's comments. Thanks! David
by brookter
Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:52 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect
Replies: 129
Views: 47329

Re: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect

...since they are identical in form in almost every instance. Not so // Minimé ! cēperō cēperim cēperis cēperīs cēperimus cēperīmus cēperitis cēperītis four out of six forms differ between those tenses. Similarities of spelling are more likely to confuse the non-native speaker, not the native speak...
by brookter
Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:18 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect
Replies: 129
Views: 47329

Re: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect

Now, don't start confusing me with Greek... I'm only just on Chapter 3 of Pharr's Homeric Greek: desperately fighting the Hydra of Accents on the lowest level of the Dungeon of Phonology with only the Wooden Shield of Interest and the Plastic Sword of Persistence for protection. κᾱλὴ βουλή... I thin...
by brookter
Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:22 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect
Replies: 129
Views: 47329

Re: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect

I, who might already have taken up the sword but has not, will die by it! A bit unfair, don't you think? Nonnè iniquius est? Yes, but the original wasn't about 'you' or "I" or "he", where the doubt is purely in the motivation (sword taken up, yes or no?) but about "they" where there is also uncerta...
by brookter
Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:33 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect
Replies: 129
Views: 47329

Re: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect

If I've understood this correctly, cēperint could be both "who might have taken up the sword (already)... I wrote what you wrote originally, brookter. Scripsi quod tu, brookter, primitùs scripsisti. Yes, I saw that after I'd replied to you, although I'd modified it in a later post as we became more...
by brookter
Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:16 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect
Replies: 129
Views: 47329

Re: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect

"all who might have taken up the sword will die by the sword" in English condemns many who will never actually take up a sword! Yes, but your sentence is different from my "all who may have already taken up the sword...". A nuance, but they do mean different things... A moot point, of course. I sho...
by brookter
Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:01 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect
Replies: 129
Views: 47329

Re: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect

Hi Imber, I quite agree with Adrianus: the first translation you gave is simply invalid. It must be future perfect here. You'll notice his second example has the apodosis in the subjunctive as well, pereāmus , which makes it a less-vivid conditional and completely valid. My fault, I'm sure, as is no...
by brookter
Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:06 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect
Replies: 129
Views: 47329

Re: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect

Adriane, Thanks for your response - I do appreciate it. As I said above, brookter, "ceperint" is future perfect here, not past perfect subjunctive. There is no reason for it to be past perfect subjunctive, but there is a reason for it to be future perfect (completed in the future at the time to whic...
by brookter
Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:31 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect
Replies: 129
Views: 47329

Re: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect

I've been following this thread with interest - and I'm glad I asked the question: it's been really stimulating. What I've taken from it so far is: In the sentence I quoted, there is no way of knowing whether Orberg had in mind the perfect subjunctive or the future perfect. Each would have been gram...
by brookter
Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:12 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Subjunctive in Conditions (Present / Past Unreal)
Replies: 4
Views: 2587

Re: Subjunctive in Conditions (Present / Past Unreal)

Laura Thanks for the response. Patriam was sloppy copying on my part - just careless, sorry: it's right in the book. So, if I've understood this correctly, it's not that the book is wrong grammatically to have "If (imperfect subjunctive) + then (pluperfect subj)", but that they've translated it wron...
by brookter
Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:50 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Subjunctive in Conditions (Present / Past Unreal)
Replies: 4
Views: 2587

Subjunctive in Conditions (Present / Past Unreal)

Salvēte Amīcī, I'm using Lingva Latina: A College Companion, by Jeanne Marie Neumann to supplement LLPSI and in general I find it very useful (although there are a few minor typographical errors in it). I'm currently working through the review of Conditions (p241) and although I get the majority of ...
by brookter
Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:14 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect
Replies: 129
Views: 47329

Re: Perfect subjunctive or Future perfect

Would that I were such who one day might understand all this... ;-)