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by Venabili
Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:22 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Subjunctive Perfect vs Imperfect
Replies: 7
Views: 3883

Re: Subjunctive Perfect vs Imperfect

The way I understand it, the nominative is not because of the esse, but because of the main verb - passive constructs with thinking and saying verbs are expressed with infinitive + nominative... Disclaimer: Still learning so I suspect that I may be oversimplifying the rule or missing some exceptions...
by Venabili
Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:16 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: First edition Wheelock?
Replies: 6
Views: 3307

Re: First edition Wheelock?

Why don't you ask him why he wants to use the 1st edition? If he is under the impression that it is out of copyright because of the following editions, maybe this is what needs to be explained. As for wanting to mail the next to his students... Wheelock is as cheap as a textbook can be. Even if he f...
by Venabili
Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:12 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Attic or Homeric first
Replies: 16
Views: 9360

Re: Attic or Homeric first

English is not a problem -- which made it possible to start learning Greek and Latin really - the materials in Bulgarian are far and few between :) I am not discounting Pharr for a future reader - it sounds like something that will work for that. Same with the JACT course. I have a problem with read...
by Venabili
Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:22 pm
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 1 - Exercises - Latin to English
Replies: 2
Views: 6661

Re: Unit 1 - Exercises - Latin to English

Thanks.

About 9 - I saw the Dative for possession in 19 but missed it here. I know the concept - even if M&F had not got around to it yet. Now when it was pointed out, it's kinda obvious. :)
by Venabili
Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:50 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: E vs ex
Replies: 4
Views: 3768

Re: E vs ex

Sounds like a lot of fun when I get to a/ab... which is in Unit 2 :)
by Venabili
Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:25 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Attic or Homeric first
Replies: 16
Views: 9360

Re: Attic or Homeric first

Oh, no worries. I am not looking for a consensus - just for people's thoughts. And I will remember for the edits and will wait a bit next time :) That is why I mentioned the graded readers. They have their place to help a bit with the transition when you don't have all the grammar. Sooner or later, ...
by Venabili
Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:50 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Attic or Homeric first
Replies: 16
Views: 9360

Re: Attic or Homeric first

OK - was writing while you were editing :) I understand the idea of starting to read instead of dealing with the textbook but... this way never worked for me. I am better in learning the grammar and then using it than the other way around. Which does not mean that I won't decide to try when I get re...
by Venabili
Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:46 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Attic or Homeric first
Replies: 16
Views: 9360

Re: Attic or Homeric first

So I will spend a few years working with graded readers and adapted texts. And probably more beginner's textbooks used as readers. I suspect I will read some of the "easy" works in more versions than I can imagine exist before I really read them. As I said - I am not in a hurry to read "real" Greek....
by Venabili
Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:15 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Attic or Homeric first
Replies: 16
Views: 9360

Re: Attic or Homeric first

I am in the "explain the grammar before going too deep into vocabulary" camp. I've learned Russian, English and German in the past - and the biggest issue I had with the inflected Russian was that I had to relearn some words once a certain grammar points were covered (it was in elementary school so ...
by Venabili
Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:17 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 1 - Exercises - English to Latin
Replies: 3
Views: 6692

Re: Unit 1 - Exercises - English to Latin

Thanks :)

That explains it (the plural usage). Considering that there is no explanation for that and it is in Unit 1 exercise I did not even think to look into a dictionary to see if there is something special for this word.
by Venabili
Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:46 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: E vs ex
Replies: 4
Views: 3768

Re: E vs ex

Thanks.

So there is no strict rule for the words starting with consonants? And it should be looked up every time? Or can ex be used in all times besides the few listed in the L&S?
by Venabili
Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:22 pm
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 1 - Exercises - English to Latin
Replies: 3
Views: 6692

Unit 1 - Exercises - English to Latin

3. The sailors kept on shouting about the punishment of the women. I came up with: Nautae dē poenā fēminārum clāmābant. The answer key gives: Nautae clāmābant dē fēminārum poenīs. Two questions: 1. Should it be poenā fēminārum or fēminārum poenā? Or are both correct? Genitive after the word it is ab...
by Venabili
Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:00 pm
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 1 - Exercises - Latin to English
Replies: 2
Views: 6661

Unit 1 - Exercises - Latin to English

I managed to work out most of the sentences but a few confuse me a bit (after checking the answer key I have - I cannot work out why they are correct or mine are wrong). Can someone verify if these translations are correct (and if not - to explain why). 7. Fēminās in viīs vidēbātis, sed dē fōrma nōn...
by Venabili
Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:03 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: E vs ex
Replies: 4
Views: 3768

E vs ex

According to the note in Moreland and Fischer: e before a word beginning with a consonant, ex before a vowel or h and sometimes before a consonant. The last part of this definition really makes my head hurt. When do you use ex before a consonant? I presume they mean one differrent from h and conside...
by Venabili
Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:13 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Attic or Homeric first
Replies: 16
Views: 9360

Re: Attic or Homeric first

The problem is that I might want to read Homer now and a few weeks down the road to change my mind and decide that I'd rather read Plato first. :) I don't have any illusions that any language will be ordered and regular - had seen too many of them to believe such a fairy tale anymore. I will get aro...
by Venabili
Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:04 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Attic or Homeric first
Replies: 16
Views: 9360

Re: Attic or Homeric first

Thanks. :) What does not work in Pharr? He seems to be very popular (and not just in Textkit) - which does not mean that it will work for everyone and I usually fare very badly with textbooks that everyone likes. Thus the question actually. And I am going to lookuop Benner's book - haven't even hear...
by Venabili
Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:31 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Attic or Homeric first
Replies: 16
Views: 9360

Attic or Homeric first

Hi everyone, Where to start - with Homeric or with Attic Greek? The long term plan is to pick up both (plus Koine) and the order does not really matter - I can start with either Homer or something else. So looking for what will end up the better progression. I am not very good with reading courses -...
by Venabili
Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:55 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Answer Key for McKeown's Classical Latin?
Replies: 1
Views: 2401

Answer Key for McKeown's Classical Latin?

I am not planning on using it as a main text so I can probably just push it back a bit and use it mainly for revisions(and the workbook does have answers) but does a key exist at all (in any form)?
by Venabili
Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:38 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: New Members Introduction Thread (New Users Post Here!)
Replies: 625
Views: 219388

Re: New Members Introduction Thread (New Users Post Here!)

Hi everyone. Just starting Latin... and figured out I can as well join the forum. I am an old fashioned learner - I seem to be learning a lot more from the old style textbooks (grammar, drills and repetition) than from all the new systems that keep popping up (although the new systems are making gre...