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by Dean
Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:32 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Simonides
Replies: 3
Views: 1664

Simonides

I am looking for a translation of Elegia (29.Diehl) by Simonides. Also looking for the text of his poem about the battle of Plataea. Any information would be appreciated.

Thnaks,
Dean
by Dean
Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:02 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Fonts and Meter
Replies: 10
Views: 2797

Fonts and Meter

I need to find a font that will display the symbols for marking the long and short syllables in poetry in Greek or Latin. The font could even be Unicode. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Dean
by Dean
Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:59 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Fonts and Meter
Replies: 12
Views: 4315

Fonts and Meter

I need to find a font that will display the symbols for marking the long and short syllables in poetry in Greek or Latin. The font could even be Unicode. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Dean
by Dean
Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:23 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Greek Word Look Up
Replies: 7
Views: 2947

Greek Word Look Up

Hi All,

I need help with the definiton of a word. It is e0nkatabai/nw and the form is
e0gkate/ba. Hope someone can help.

Dean
by Dean
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:15 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Aoidoi.org: The Shield of Achilles
Replies: 21
Views: 10632

Shield of Achilles as a theme in Classical Literature

Virgil also picks up the theme of the shield and I think Ovid does in the Metamorphoses. It is indeed an interesting subject.

Dean
by Dean
Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:05 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Pindar and Nemea 1
Replies: 3
Views: 1598

Schema I have worked out

This is the schema I have worked out for the strophe of Nemea 1.

LLsLsLsL
LLssLLssLssL
LssLssL
sLsLLssssssL
LssLddLsslllsLLLsL
LsLsLssLssLLsLssLLLLsLLLsL

Sorry I haven't figured out symbols for scansion yet but L is long and s is short.
by Dean
Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:41 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Pindar and Nemea 1
Replies: 3
Views: 1598

Pindar and Nemea 1

I am working on Pindar's Nemean 1. I was just wondering if anyone would know anything about the meter of the poem. I need the schema for it (the strope and epode.) Although I think I can figure out the meter for myself, I just need to double-check it. Any help would be appreciated!

Dean
by Dean
Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:36 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Another Pharr Reading Group
Replies: 1
Views: 948

Another Pharr Reading Group

Just wondering when and if there will be another Pharr reading group starting int the future?

Dean
by Dean
Mon May 02, 2005 8:24 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Oxyrhynchus Papyri
Replies: 0
Views: 744

Oxyrhynchus Papyri

I didn't know where to post this exactly: Papyrus Reveals New Clues to Ancient World Classical Greek and Roman literature is being read for the first time in 2,000 years thanks to new technology. The previously illegible texts are among a hoard of papyrus manuscripts. Scholars say the rediscovered w...
by Dean
Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:44 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: BBC Radio 4 Program about Virgil and the Aeneiad
Replies: 0
Views: 674

BBC Radio 4 Program about Virgil and the Aeneiad

I found a radio program from BBC Radio 4 about Virgil and the Aeneiad. I don't know if the link is still good but it is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/mp3/inourtime18.mp3 It is an mp3 file (11 megs) about 45 minutes long. It is an interesting listen! If the link doesn't work, they on...
by Dean
Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:56 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: BBC Radio 4 Program about Virgil and the Aeneiad
Replies: 3
Views: 1294

BBC Radio 4 Program about Virgil and the Aeneiad

I found a radio program from BBC Radio 4 about Virgil and the Aeneiad. I don't know if the link is still good but it is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/mp3/inourtime18.mp3 It is an mp3 file (11 megs) about 45 minutes long. It is an interesting listen! If the link doesn't work, they on...
by Dean
Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:10 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Beginners Latin Group using D'Ooge
Replies: 4
Views: 1222

Some thoughts about a beginners Latin Group

Dear All, First of all, thank you for all your comments and support. I have been thinking that what we need is someone who has had enough Latin to be able to help. That is not to say that beginners couldn't help, but to be a guide or moderator one has to have had enough Latin to know the tough bits ...
by Dean
Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:57 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Beginners Latin Group using D'Ooge
Replies: 4
Views: 1222

Beginners Latin Group using D'Ooge

I wanted to know if anyone here would be interested in helping me with forming and moderating a beginners Latin course using the D'Ooge text.
Thanks!
Dean
by Dean
Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:24 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Something I was wondering about~Very Advanced Question
Replies: 4
Views: 2220

Something I was wondering about~Very Advanced Question

Hi Everyone, I have one of those more advanced questions about Classical Greek. Has there been any kind of writing that has come to light from the time of Homer? I know that papyrus scraps have been found in Egypt basically in what we would call trash piles today. Has anything been found there relat...
by Dean
Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:38 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Alternate Beginnings for the Illiad
Replies: 4
Views: 1970

Alternate Beginnings for the Illiad Again

It is very very possible that if there was a Homer or at least someone who collected parts of the Illiad and the Oddysey and pieced them together as a whole work that there may be other beginnings that have been lost. From what I make of these I don't think they are as good as what we have

Dean
by Dean
Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:16 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Alternate Beginnings for the Illiad
Replies: 4
Views: 1970

Where did I find these?

Glad you asked! These two quotations on alternate beginnings for the Illiad came from the web. They were in a site about the oral reading of the Illiad. I really didn't need to hear them reading the verse as I can do that fairly well myself with practice. But the alternate beginnings were interestin...
by Dean
Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:50 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Alternate Beginnings for the Illiad
Replies: 4
Views: 1970

Alternate Beginnings for the Illiad

I thought these were rather interesting:

Μούσας ἀείδω καὶ Ἀπόλλωνα κλυτότοξον


The second is:

ἐ/σπετε νῦν μοι, Μοῦσαι, Ὀλύμπια δώματ’ ἐ/ουσαι,
ὁ/ππος δὴ μῆνις τε χόλας θ’ ἑ/λε Πηλείωνα
Λητοῦς τ’ ἀγλαὸν υἱόν. ὀ γὰρ βασιλῆι χολωθεὶς

Anyone have any ideas?

Dean
by Dean
Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:21 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Fonts for Scansion
Replies: 1
Views: 2656

Fonts for Scansion

Happy New Years to All,

I wanted to know if there were any fonts other than Anaxiphorminx for displaying Greek and Latin meter?

Dean
by Dean
Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:36 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Manuscripts and Homer
Replies: 12
Views: 5169

Manuscripts and Homer

Hi Everyone!

I was wondering if anyone has found any pictures of the manuscripts of Greek authors on the web?

Also the variant readings to the beginning of the Illiad, does anyone have any idea where I might find this?

Thanks,

Dean
by Dean
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:48 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Translation Help
Replies: 2
Views: 1491

Translation Help

I want to use this for a signature for email.
Can anyone help translating into Greek:
The pen is mightier than the sword.

Thanks!
by Dean
Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:12 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ovid Study Group
Replies: 24
Views: 13364

Ovid Study Group

Hi All, I am still interested in trying the Ovid Study Group if we have enough participants, but I don't think this is going to be too much of a problem. I was thinking twenty at most. I was just thinking...I had many Latin courses with Mrs. Parks as instructor. She said once that you don't know har...
by Dean
Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:26 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Books about Classical Greek Literature
Replies: 1
Views: 1439

Books about Classical Greek Literature

Is there a book which exists which would be a survey of Classical Greek Literature in the sense of Duff's Survey of Latin Literature? Duff wrote one volume about the "Golden Age" and another about the "Silver Age". I know this is kind of a tough question!!! Any help would be appreciated!

Dean
by Dean
Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:51 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Is Caesar worth reading? Is Horace?
Replies: 16
Views: 6432

Horace

Just my two cents worth. I had Horace in college in the spring quarter which ran from about Easter to June. Anyway it was an early morning class and the spring is a beautiful time of the year for Horace. He has all kinds of references to things growing (green) again and rebirth. I just kind of assoc...
by Dean
Thu Feb 26, 2004 10:35 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ovid Study Group
Replies: 24
Views: 13364

Stayed tuned!

Stay tuned><More details to follow!
I just ordered a copy of the text!!!
Best Regards.
Dean
by Dean
Thu Feb 26, 2004 10:12 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ovid Study Group
Replies: 24
Views: 13364

Ovid

You asked~~does anyone know if there is any book (texkit online) available with comments and notes?~~ Yes there will be one in the next few weeks I hope :D It has a vocabulary and notes :D by Allen and Greenough. I was just thinking maybe we could do a few passages enough to last a month or so. That...
by Dean
Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:28 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ovid Study Group
Replies: 24
Views: 13364

Reading Dutch

It's funny but if I sit there and look at the Dutch language on this web page about the Latin to Dutch dictionary I can almost read it. Must have been because I had a German crash reading course. I still remeber some of it.

Dean
by Dean
Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:36 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ovid Study Group
Replies: 24
Views: 13364

Ovid Group

Jeff, That would be great if we had an Ovid reader. That was my biggest worry...the reading material! It will also be as big a challenge for me as for everyone else. Maybe we could start in late March or early April. Let me know either through the forum or my email dhm323@comcast.net Thanks! Dean
by Dean
Sun Feb 08, 2004 5:26 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ovid Study Group
Replies: 24
Views: 13364

Ovid and the Tristia

Soemthing that I remember very well from the Tristia because I had this to translate in class. Cum subit illius tristissima noctis imago, Qua mihi supremum tempus in Urbe fuit, Cum repeto noctem, qua tot mihi cara reliqui, Labitur ex oculis nunc quoque gutta meis. Iam prope lux aderat, qua me disced...
by Dean
Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:23 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ovid Study Group
Replies: 24
Views: 13364

Ovid Study Group

Just out of curiosity, would there be any interest in an Ovid study group?
I have been thinking a lot about this :D
I don't know exactly what works of Ovid we could concentrate on as he wrote so much.
If there is any interest in this, let me know!

Dean
by Dean
Thu Nov 27, 2003 8:20 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: transcription practice
Replies: 2
Views: 1928

Beauty of the original manuscripts

Aren't the manuscripts beautiful? I have only seen a few. Vergil and Lucretius. :D By the way did you know that with enough experience you can tell to what century a manuscript belongs? And there are a lot of other things that can be told just by the style of writing. This is another part of learnin...
by Dean
Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:18 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: talatta or talassa?
Replies: 10
Views: 8532

just a quick note or observation on dialects!

May it be noted that we in the United States now American English, which is now considered a dialect! It took about 100 years to become a dialect. The first important document written in American English is considered to be the Gettysburg Address. By 1863 we know longer spoke or even wrote the "King...
by Dean
Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:50 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: The Historian Livy in Translation
Replies: 3
Views: 2013

Quite rightly so!

Quite rightly so! Be that as it may, the link is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/latintranslations/ It is my group--all you have to do is join. Just make sure you have a Yahoo ID :) I save it as an html document because it doesn't take as many bytes and preserves the formatting. I can say I've tried ...
by Dean
Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:50 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: The Historian Livy in Translation
Replies: 3
Views: 2013

The Historian Livy in Translation

Dear Group,

I recently found an online translation of Ab Urbe Condita by Livy. It is in six files. And it includes every book! If anyone is interested in this I can post the files somewhere for download. Please let me know what you think!

Dean
by Dean
Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:11 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Anabasis II.v.10
Replies: 4
Views: 2935

Re:Anabasis II.v.10

Thanks for your analysis!<br /><br />I was wondering if I was on the right track. This is a fairly difficult passage and I came to some of the same conclusions you did. I just needed a little reinforcement. I guess I'm not doing so badly after all. I guess if you can tackle an author like Livy or Ta...
by Dean
Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:29 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Anabasis II.v.10
Replies: 4
Views: 2935

Re:Anabasis II.v.10

[size=150]εἰ δὲ δὴ καὶ μανέντες σε κατακτείναιμεν, ἄλλο τι ἂν ἢ τὸν εὐεργέτην κατακτείναντες πρὸς+ βασιλέα τὸν μέγιστον ἔφεδρον ἀγωνιζοίμεθα; ὅσων δὲ δὴ καὶ οἵων ἂν ἐλπίδων ἐμαυτὸν στερήσαιμι, εἰ σέ τι κακὸν ἐπιχειρήσαιμι ποιεῖν, ταῦτα λέξω<br />I know that these are two indirect questions in conditions, but what about the translation? What about de da kai at the beginning?
by Dean
Wed Sep 03, 2003 4:05 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Anabasis II.v.10
Replies: 4
Views: 2935

Anabasis II.v.10

Could someone explain the grammer to me here?<br />Thanx!
by Dean
Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:19 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Literary Terms and Devices
Replies: 8
Views: 7404

Literary Terms and Devices

I know I am asking for a lot, but has anyone seen a listing of literary terms used in Greek and Latin literature. In explaination, let me use the example "chiasmus." At least I think this is spelled right. Anyway many of the same literary terms are the same in Greek and Latin. I personally have neve...
by Dean
Sun Jul 20, 2003 5:38 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: JJW Book, Xenophon, etc...etc
Replies: 2
Views: 3039

JJW Book, Xenophon, etc...etc

I have been using JJW mostly for the reading exercises and haven't had too much trouble with it. The question is: Where do I go from here? Can anyone suggest some selected passages from the Anabasis for reading? There have to be some that are more entertaining (or better) than others? If this was a ...
by Dean
Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:38 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Literacy in Ancient Greece and Rome
Replies: 6
Views: 7654

Literacy in Ancient Greece and Rome

I have often wondered what the literacy rate was in Ancient Greece and the Roman Empire. Has anyone ever seen any info or statistics on this? Also how well were the writers known to them? Some interesting questions for thought... :)
by Dean
Tue Jun 17, 2003 9:37 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Next Steps after Wheelock
Replies: 7
Views: 12525

Re:Next Steps after Wheelock

I just thought I would let you know that when I was in college after you finished your first year of Latin your next course was Cicero and we read his Orations against Cataline. Then next course was Vergil and after that Horace. So don't be afraid to try some Cicero. It's more interesting than Caese...