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by Mofmog
Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:43 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Okay, can one of you Latin-Geeks confirm this...
Replies: 7
Views: 2137

"Make a sound should you speak Latin".

YUP
by Mofmog
Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:50 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: If you had to pick just one
Replies: 21
Views: 6632

Latin. I've admired the Roman mindset moreso than the Greek mindset more. Oh and their military owned.

Koine greek attracts me more than classical Attic greek does though. In fact:

Latin
Koine
Homeric
Attic

I just can't stand Attic.
by Mofmog
Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:47 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: 300
Replies: 19
Views: 5955

The point of 300 is not to be historically accurate. It doesn't eve come CLOSE to claiming any sort of reality. It is an expression of masculine machismo set in a semi-historical time. That is it. The trailors made this point extremely explicit. In fact, I would go as far as to say this is a mythica...
by Mofmog
Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:05 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: using infinitves
Replies: 4
Views: 1442

I don't understand why anyone would need a motto to be 100% correct grammatically. I mean, "Lux et Veritas" has no noun- doesn't make it suddenly "not" latin.
by Mofmog
Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:36 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: 300 watch the trailer if you are brave enough
Replies: 63
Views: 20208

I'm pretty sure the Iliad was pretty inaccurate but it's still pretty awsome. If anything, this film is more "historical" in that it depicts certain events in a more "mythical" light, with more of a primordial bravado around it. I mean, did men really jump out of giant wooden horse statues (I KNOW I...
by Mofmog
Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:52 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Brush up your conversational latin!
Replies: 10
Views: 2388

Brush up your conversational latin!

http://www.totalcatholic.com/universe/i ... &arcmonth=

:P

Though impractical, it sounds very cool.
by Mofmog
Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:30 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: USPS Woes!
Replies: 12
Views: 3775

USPS Woes!

I ordered Plato's Apology off of the Walmart website (I had a gift card) on August 13th. On thier website they claimed that I'd have my package Wednesday the 23rd. This WOULD be the case, but USPS goofed up and sent my package to the wrong city! But what's worse, they said they've ALREADY DELIVERED ...
by Mofmog
Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:32 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: de elegantiarum linguae latinae
Replies: 2
Views: 1056

Re: de elegantiarum linguae latinae

nvm this
by Mofmog
Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:35 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Hellenisms
Replies: 0
Views: 834

Hellenisms

I'm reading Ovid and it seems like hellenisms are getting in the way, but I'm not really sure if they ARE hellenisms per se. For example: "His quoque non passim mundi fabricator habendum / aera permisit;" Ovid, Metamorphoses, 57-58 "The creator did not let the air to be had through for them everywhe...
by Mofmog
Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:08 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Translation Request
Replies: 14
Views: 3343

Kasper wrote:How about:

"Aliquodcumque possidendum et patiendum meritum (est)"??

Mike - DO NOT GET THIS AS YOUR TATTOO.
Whatever is about to be held and suffer gains?
by Mofmog
Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:01 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plato Commentary?
Replies: 7
Views: 3029

Hey, I just ordered Jame Helm's commentary! I hope I dont forget my greek by then.
by Mofmog
Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:00 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Indirect statements & missing participles
Replies: 2
Views: 930

For the perfect active participle, you'd just convert it to passive.

Having read the discussion -> The discussion having been read by (whoever)

Oratio lecta
by Mofmog
Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:26 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Carmen Catulli 61
Replies: 15
Views: 4907

I believe in this context diceris is a second singular perfect subjunctive with a potential usage. The use of the perfect subjunctive in such situations can refer to possible events in the future. Catullus is anticipating the argument of his friend. I think this is how Cantantor chose to interpret ...
by Mofmog
Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:59 pm
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Homer Specific Cheat Sheet?
Replies: 42
Views: 32208

Alright! I'll pm you my email and pm me the work and what parts they're taken from.
by Mofmog
Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:30 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Homer Specific Cheat Sheet?
Replies: 42
Views: 32208

I'd just like post some encouragement for this project! Switching from Attic to Homeric is difficult, but it's made even more difficult by not knowing (and having) the alternate forms in an easily accesible medium.
by Mofmog
Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:17 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Easiest/Most Interesting Latin Texts?
Replies: 19
Views: 7317

Mabye they took the greek example, but instead of matching mood to sequence, they though of the 'quod' clause as its own finite statement?

Dicit quod Christus non fuit "He says that Christ was not..."

dicit quod Christus non fuerit "He says that Christ should've not"

or something like that?
by Mofmog
Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:14 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plato Commentary?
Replies: 7
Views: 3029

Plato Commentary?

Are there any good plato commentaries? (of course, of the greek texts) I want to just jump straight into one of his easier works. I have finished an intensive greek corse at cornell u so my grammar and vocabulary is a bit shakey so something easy is in order. Also, Lidell Scott intermediate is the s...
by Mofmog
Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:50 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plato Help
Replies: 7
Views: 2160

OH I SEE! The main clause of the conditional is the part made 'indirect' and the participal construction works conditionally.
by Mofmog
Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:01 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plato Help
Replies: 7
Views: 2160

Ok, I think I have the translation now in my head (I havent typed it up yet). BUT, I still have general questions about Plato's style. For example, why does he use an indirect participle construction with phemi instead of the expected infinitive construction? Also, my questions in the original post ...
by Mofmog
Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:15 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plato Help
Replies: 7
Views: 2160

edit: Ok I cut and pasted the text from perseus.
by Mofmog
Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:22 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plato Help
Replies: 7
Views: 2160

Plato Help

Plato Gorgias, when talking about rhetoric φημὶ δὲ καὶ εἰς πόλιν ὅπῃ βούλει ?λθόντα ῥητο?ικὸν ἄνδ?α καὶ ἰατ?όν, εἰ δέοι λόγῳ διαγωνίζεσθαι ?ν ?κκλησίᾳ ἢ ?ν ἄλλῳ τινὶ συλλόγῳ ?πότε?ον δεῖ αἱ?εθῆναι ἰατ?όν, ο?δαμοῦ [456ξ] ἂν φανῆναι τὸν ἰατ?όν, ἀλλ᾽ αἱ?εθῆναι ἂν τὸν εἰπεῖν δυνατόν, εἰ βούλοιτο. I say ...
by Mofmog
Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:31 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: help with preparing for the latin SAT 2
Replies: 12
Views: 7088

I got a 750 on it. I couldve gotten an 800 if it werent for the vocabulary. Seriously, that lowered my score by 40 whole points. The other 10 points were dumb mistakes.
by Mofmog
Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:15 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Huge Latin Language Resource on Net Temporarily; HELP
Replies: 37
Views: 10679

Can I have it emailed to me too? mofmog@gmail.com
by Mofmog
Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:53 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: subjective infinitive
Replies: 1
Views: 3391

You seem to have a lot of questions. Which book are using to learn latin?
by Mofmog
Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:50 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Complementary Infinitive vs. Objective Infinitive
Replies: 1
Views: 815

"We ought." does not make sense. It needs an infinitive to go along with it to make it make sense, hence the complimentary infinitive. "He taught the slaves" makes sense. Hence, the "to work" in "He taught the salves to work" is objective because it is not reqired to complete the thought, only to ma...
by Mofmog
Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:55 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: national spelling bee
Replies: 6
Views: 1767

No because spelling bees are tragic(-comic) testaments to the massive heap of confusion that is English spelling.
by Mofmog
Sat May 13, 2006 11:28 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Word Order
Replies: 9
Views: 2474

No, Latin is not German where there is a set word order even with cases.

The word order is free; SOV is simply a de facto standard (if that).
by Mofmog
Mon May 08, 2006 12:37 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Lesson X
Replies: 1
Views: 4124

Lesson X

ουκ αυτις αχουσι δαναοι μεγαθυμοι εκατομβας πολλας εις ξρυση

The brave Danaoi will not again conduct the many sacrifices upon Chrysa

is this correct?
by Mofmog
Sun May 07, 2006 4:06 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Cornell Summer College
Replies: 4
Views: 1640

Cornell Summer College

Hey everyone! I just accepted into Cornell Summer College to take in an intensive Greek course (unless they put me into the Latin :shock: )! Anyone have experiences with this?
by Mofmog
Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:25 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Can this work?
Replies: 23
Views: 7826

I emailed William Harris and apparently I shouldnt memorize lists of paradigms. What do you guys think? William Harris to me More options Apr 17 (3 days ago) Agreed, it is very ahrd to rbeak old habits in have you have been schooled. But ebfore going full tilt into Greek (a good idea by itself) try ...
by Mofmog
Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:04 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Prose vs. Verse?
Replies: 2
Views: 1373

Prose vs. Verse?

I read somewhere that sometimes verse uses infinitives grammatically in ways which prose does not. For example: Iubeo omnes homines amare Is correct in verse but it should be something else in prose? I read this somewhere and for the life of me I can't find it, so my example might not be correct, bu...
by Mofmog
Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:46 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Possessive Adjectives
Replies: 12
Views: 4024

Question: If 1. He likes his book is reflexive then is: 'He likes your book' reflexive or is this the case where we use eius? thanks. REFLEXIVE means upon the subject. I kick myself. Myself is reflexive because it refers to "I", the subject. When a subject does something or has something to himself...
by Mofmog
Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:44 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Possessive Adjectives
Replies: 20
Views: 10976

blutoonwithcarrotandnail wrote:I still don't understand why MEUS, TUUS, NOSTER and VESTER are not reflexive and SUUS is.

He likes his book (this is reflexive) (SUUS)

They like their book (this is not reflexive) (VESTER)

What is so reflexive about it being 'he' or third person?

thanks.
Probably to reduce ambiguity?
by Mofmog
Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:16 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Possessive Adjectives
Replies: 20
Views: 10976

Do you mean se ?

As in bene se habet?

If so, it's because the nominative is taken by is ea id.
by Mofmog
Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:29 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: On Greek and OHT (Old High Translationese)
Replies: 1
Views: 1282

Probably best to outline mental Martha here :P
by Mofmog
Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:31 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Can this work?
Replies: 23
Views: 7826

This is a great thread -- thanks to everyone for their comments. I had become accustomed to thinking that everyone in this forum is a natural at languages and that they had absorbed every arcane grammatical point in their studies. I sometimes imagine everyone reading Thucydides and Cicero without e...
by Mofmog
Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:49 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Gender discordance... or am I just anal?
Replies: 2
Views: 1025

Gender discordance... or am I just anal?

Sometimes whenever I read Catullus, I see some gender discordances that simply throw me off. An example from his first poem: CVI dono lepidum nouum libellum arida modo pumice expolitum? I'm pretty sure "arida" modifies "pumice". The problem is, arida is declined for a sing f or plural n yet pumice i...
by Mofmog
Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:07 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Can this work?
Replies: 23
Views: 7826

hehe he even has time to make fun of himself.

http://community.middlebury.edu/~harris/Sappho.101.pdf
by Mofmog
Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:14 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Mea culpa! A call to confession.
Replies: 27
Views: 9690

Though I try my best not to translate in my head, sometimes i catch myself doing it and I feel really horrible afterwards.
by Mofmog
Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:27 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Can this work?
Replies: 23
Views: 7826

It's possible to just jump right into the Iliad without any prior experience of Greek, but I'd guess that it's not likely to work out for most people. Why torture yourself when tools like Pharr's Homeric Greek exist? You'll notice that even Harris, whose advice is a bit optimistic to my mind, talks...