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by jswilkmd
Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:21 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: easiest from NT to other Greek works?
Replies: 5
Views: 2621

Re: easiest from NT to other Greek works?

I'd agree with the Didache and the LXX, but Homer? From personal experience, I'd say no.
by jswilkmd
Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:58 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: ἀληθῶς in attributive position
Replies: 2
Views: 1491

Re: ἀληθῶς in attributive position

It would never have dawned on me to take this adverb as an adjective in Jn 1:47. I'm with you. The word is almost certainly an adverb, modifying an implicit copula. In my translation of John's gospel from my seminary days, I translated it as "Look! Truly an Israelite in whom there is no deceit." Thi...
by jswilkmd
Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:51 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Athenaze Book 1
Replies: 6
Views: 4563

Re: Athenaze Book 1

There is also a Teacher's Handbook for Athenaze I, which has answer keys. Helpful for self-study.
by jswilkmd
Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:41 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: τον απ αρχης
Replies: 6
Views: 4883

Re: τον απ αρχης

Definitely food for thought.
by jswilkmd
Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:39 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Three aorist active forms of ἀνοίγω in one chapter??
Replies: 1
Views: 2555

Three aorist active forms of ἀνοίγω in one chapter??

In going through the Gospel According to John, chapter 9, I notice the evangelist uses three different aorist active indicative forms of ἀνοίγω: ἀνέῳξεν (double augment) in 9:14 ἠνέῳξεν (triple augment) in 9:17 ἤνοιξεν (single augment) in 9:21. It's not like Homer, where variations in declension and...
by jswilkmd
Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:16 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Double check my work?
Replies: 3
Views: 3715

Re: Double check my work?

Nate is absolutely correct, but I think there's another way to look at it beyond the "double accusative" or "object-complement" constructions, for those constructions typically refer to two nouns . What's going on here is a question of whether the adjective is attributive or used as a predicate. To ...
by jswilkmd
Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:26 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: τον απ αρχης
Replies: 6
Views: 4883

Re: τον απ αρχης

In 1 John 2:14 we see the inclusion of the Father and then we see a contrast between the Father and the τον απ αρχης. It would seem to me, based upon this verse, that the Christ was in view in the previous text. I cannot think of any logical reason for this inclusion other than to establish who the...
by jswilkmd
Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:45 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: τον απ αρχης
Replies: 6
Views: 4883

Re: τον απ αρχης

Yes, it IS a substantive and it means something on the order of "the one who was from the beginning." Whether it refers to God the Father or to Jesus, though, is unclear, because both of these persons of the trinity have existed from the beginning of time. Note that a rare commentator, de la Potteri...
by jswilkmd
Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:41 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Looking NT Greek help
Replies: 2
Views: 2515

Re: Looking NT Greek help

The Biblical Greek learning program (A CD-rom for your computer) called "Greek Tutor" by Parson's Technology is EXCELLENT, and equivalent to a one-year seminary course in Biblical Greek. I can't recommend it highly enough!
by jswilkmd
Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:18 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Mounce's exegesis of Titus 1:6 is clearly WRONG
Replies: 0
Views: 2334

Mounce's exegesis of Titus 1:6 is clearly WRONG

Mounce is not only the author of Basics of Biblical Greek , but of a commentary on the Pastoral Epistles (Word Biblical Commentary, vol. 46 http://www.amazon.com/Word-Biblical-Commentary-Pastoral-Epistles/dp/0849902452/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317614417&sr=8-1). In this commentary, Mounce specificall...
by jswilkmd
Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:03 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Weird use of dative in Hesiod and Homer
Replies: 2
Views: 1809

Re: Weird use of dative in Hesiod and Homer

Ah, thanks. Now I see where to find it in the usual grammars. Wallace (p. 174) notes “A few adjectives are followed by the dative case…the most common group is adjectives of “likeness” such as ὅμοιος, ἴσος.” Smyth (§1501) notes examples of the dative used with adjectives and adverbs of similarity an...
by jswilkmd
Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:28 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: What is the difference between (ponder) and (consider)?
Replies: 2
Views: 4444

Re: What is the difference between (ponder) and (consider)?

I think the biggest difference between the words is that "consider" implies making a decision of some sort, whereas "ponder" simply means to think in depth about something, without necessarily the need to decide something.
by jswilkmd
Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:24 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Ancient Greece wall map?
Replies: 3
Views: 1882

Re: Ancient Greece wall map?

Have you checked here? http://www.aclclassics.org/store/
by jswilkmd
Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:45 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Weird use of dative in Hesiod and Homer
Replies: 2
Views: 1809

Weird use of dative in Hesiod and Homer

While working through Theogony , I came across a usage of the dative case I haven't seen before (I'm best at Biblical Greek, but am not unfamiliar with Homer and have translated hundreds of lines of the Iliad and Odyssey ). I suppose one could call it a "dative of comparison," but I've looked in Smy...
by jswilkmd
Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:42 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Homer - Odyssey - Book I
Replies: 14
Views: 7234

Re: Homer - Odyssey - Book I

Yep, I'll be around.
by jswilkmd
Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:20 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Latin and Ancient Greek for Elementary?
Replies: 4
Views: 3991

Re: Latin and Ancient Greek for Elementary?

If your aim is to teach New Testament Greek in particular, the Hey Andrew, Teach Me Some Greek series is helpful for young kids: http://www.greeknstuff.com/andrew.html
by jswilkmd
Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:01 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Homeric vs Koine study??
Replies: 3
Views: 4000

Re: Homeric vs Koine study??

Get the computer program (truly equivalent to a year-long course at a seminary) called Greek Tutor, from Parsons Technology. I can't praise this teaching tool enough.
by jswilkmd
Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:58 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Dobson vs. Hale
Replies: 3
Views: 3434

Re: Dobson vs. Hale

Glad you got those books for a bargain price. You'll find them fun to look through from time to time. If you want a systemic review of Biblical Greek, I think the best way to really firm up your knowledge and do drill after drill (and learn syntax, too) is to use the computer program from Parson's T...
by jswilkmd
Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:27 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: question about LXX Exodus 20:9
Replies: 4
Views: 3628

Re: question about LXX Exodus 20:9

refe wrote:It's a weird looking form but actually very regular:
ἐργαζομαι -> ἐργασεσαι -> ἐργαεαι -> ἐργᾷ
Man, that's got to be a record for contraction! Loss of two intervocalic sigmas, contraction of three vowels and an iota becoming a subscript!
by jswilkmd
Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:21 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Mark 14:34
Replies: 2
Views: 2989

Re: Mark 14:34

μένω is a typical liquid verb (look up "liquid aorist" or "liquid future" in the index). As such, it takes liquid future, aorist and sometimes perfect forms. Mounce, in Basics of Biblical Greek , discusses these verbs (§23.12, p. 201 in the first edition). Liquid verbs are those whose stems end with...
by jswilkmd
Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:20 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: "Intermediate" Greek Questions
Replies: 6
Views: 6111

Re: "Intermediate" Greek Questions

Well, here's a copy of Lust for only $44. It's not exactly dirt cheap, but not a bad deal: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... ition=used
by jswilkmd
Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:01 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: "Scanned" text of Homeric Greek
Replies: 13
Views: 11057

Re: "Scanned" text of Homeric Greek

This is what one reviewer at amazon specifically said about the scanned version you asked about: Actually, I think very highly of the text itself, and largely agree with the praise most reviewers have given to this book. However, the quality of Kessinger Publishing's reprint is so far below that of ...
by jswilkmd
Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:50 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Homer - Odyssey - Book I
Replies: 14
Views: 7234

Re: Homer - Odyssey - Book I

First observation/question: Starting out in the Odyssey, I was first struck by the occurrence of the possessive pronoun, which I do not recall to show up very often in the Iliad. The first appears in line 4 (ὃν κατὰ θυμόν), and more examples can be seen in lines 5, 21, 41. Line 29 shows a κατὰ θυμό...
by jswilkmd
Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:12 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Homer - Odyssey - Book I
Replies: 14
Views: 7234

Re: Homer - Odyssey - Book I

Excellent! I'll pull out my notes from when I worked through it a few years back.
by jswilkmd
Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:41 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Grammatical frequency analysis
Replies: 4
Views: 1534

Re: Grammatical frequency analysis

The only things I know of--and I don't know everything--that have this capability are the BibleWorks and Gramcord software programs for the New Testament. And even these--because they are often a matter of scholarly debate--can't distinguish between objective and subjective genitives, genitive of me...
by jswilkmd
Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:32 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Homeric Greek dictionary
Replies: 2
Views: 2164

Re: Homeric Greek dictionary

I have Cunliffe, Middle Liddell and Bauer, Arndt, Gingrich and Danker and each serves its purpose. For Homer, Cunliffe beats Autenrieth and Liddell HANDS DOWN. For Biblical Greek, BAGD beats Liddell HANDS DOWN. But Liddell is a good, all-around Greek lexicon, particularly for Attic classics, such as...
by jswilkmd
Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:26 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Autenrieth vs. Cunliffe
Replies: 5
Views: 2125

Re: Autenrieth vs. Cunliffe

Cunliffe is way more comprehensive and cites specific lines from Homer where each word can be found, so it's almost like a concordance. too. If my copy of it--the U. of Oklahoma edition currently available on Amazon--hadn't fallen apart at the spine after a few uses, I'd recommend it wholeheartedly....
by jswilkmd
Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:07 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: How to Find Editions and Commentaries?
Replies: 6
Views: 2159

Re: How to Find Editions and Commentaries?

The standard Greek edition of Historiae with notes (I don't know how extensive they are) is that by Theodorus Büttner-Wobst:

http://www.amazon.com/Polybii-Polybius- ... 138&sr=8-1

But it's hard to come by.
by jswilkmd
Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:03 am
Forum: Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry
Topic: Metrical quantity of the participle, grapsas?
Replies: 5
Views: 4188

Re: Metrical quantity of the participle, grapsas?

Anthony Appleyard wrote:The sequence νσ survived in the dialect of Crete, e.g. τονς ελευθερονς .
That's interesting and is evidence of the sound change. Thanks for sharing.
by jswilkmd
Mon May 30, 2011 3:56 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Word Order -- Need Help
Replies: 10
Views: 4116

Re: Word Order -- Need Help

Don't forget, too, that certain word orders may be necessitated by the meter in lyric and epic poetry and, when reading such genres, I wouldn't put too much significance into whether the word order conveys emphasis.
by jswilkmd
Sat May 28, 2011 7:17 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Which Greek dialect did these Hellenistic thinkers write in?
Replies: 5
Views: 2435

Re: Which Greek dialect did these Hellenistic thinkers write

Apollonius of Rhodes uses hexameter lines and the Homeric epic dialect, consciously imitating Homer.
by jswilkmd
Fri May 20, 2011 11:14 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Mark 13:32
Replies: 2
Views: 2703

Mark 13:32

Οὐ μὴ γέγραπται:

Περὶ δὲ τῆς ἡμέρας ἐκείνης ἤ τῆς ὥρας οὐδεις οἶδεν, οὐδὲ οἱ ἄγγελοι ἐν οὐρανῷ οὐδὲ ὁ υἱός, εἰ μὴ ὁ πατὴρ καὶ Ἅρωλδ Κάμπιγγος.
by jswilkmd
Mon May 16, 2011 5:11 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Personality Types
Replies: 23
Views: 13137

Re: Personality Types

Markos wrote:
I'm liberal on the political spectrum and vocal about it.
οὐδεὶς τέλειός ἐστιν. :D :D :D

Joke, joke, joke, that was a joke! :D :D :D

πως εχεις ω φιλε μου? εγω καλως εχω. τί νυν αναγνωσκεις? γραφε εμοι. χαρησομαι τῳ αντησαι προσωπον προς προσωπον.
:D
by jswilkmd
Sun May 15, 2011 1:37 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Not happy about the iota subscript
Replies: 24
Views: 13525

Re: Not happy about the iota subscript

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GREEKTEXTSANDTHEIOTASUBSCRIPTHAPPENSTOBEONEOFTHEM.
by jswilkmd
Sun May 15, 2011 1:29 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Companion Text book W/BBG?
Replies: 6
Views: 5323

Re: Companion Text book W/BBG?

One thing I found exceptionally helpful was the Greek Tutor multimedia CD-ROM for the computer, published by Parson's Technology. It's an excellent companion to Mounce.
by jswilkmd
Sun May 15, 2011 1:16 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: “Παύσονται” in 1Cor 13:8
Replies: 2
Views: 2865

Re: “Παύσονται” in 1Cor 13:8

παύω in the active means "stop (someone or something)"; "cause to stop," "quiet," "relieve." English examples would be "Somebody stop that car!" "I had to stop him from hurting someone," or that old line from the Bee Gees song, "How can you stop the sun from shining?" A New Testament example also in...
by jswilkmd
Sun May 15, 2011 12:50 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Personality Types
Replies: 23
Views: 13137

Re: Personality Types

I'm the oddball, I guess. I'm a ESFJ, which I feel to be fairly accurate. I'm a physician (medical complications of pregnancy), medical school professor and poet and passionate about my work, a former theology school student, a former rock musician and high-school debater. I'm liberal on the politic...
by jswilkmd
Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:48 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Alternatives to Basics of Biblical Greek
Replies: 9
Views: 11372

Re: Alternatives to Basics of Biblical Greek

No single textbook will give you everything you need, but Mounce is a very good beginner text. But you'll have to supplement it with some other works. If it's syntax you need, supplement with Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics . If morphology, supplement with Mounce's Morphology of Biblical G...
by jswilkmd
Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:46 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Correct use of came v went
Replies: 2
Views: 2979

Re: Correct use of came v went

Context of the sentence in question is the only way to know whether to use "come" or "go." There isn't anything wrong with how you translated it.
by jswilkmd
Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:39 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: translation help needed
Replies: 5
Views: 1970

Re: translation help needed

"The man is worthy of good gifts," I'd imagine.