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by furrykef
Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:37 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: spectare....ne gratuita praeterita parricidia...
Replies: 8
Views: 2615

Re: spectare....ne gratuita praeterita parricidia...

Yes, I think "coepit esse" applies to both "infestior senectus" and "infestius regnum". It's like how I can say "Marco malum, Iuliae rosam dedi", and even though I said "dedi" only once, hopefully you understood that I gave Marcus an apple and Julia a rose (now I just did the same thing in English)....
by furrykef
Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:06 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Martial really tickled me the other day...
Replies: 7
Views: 2609

Re: Martial really tickled me the other day...

My favorite poem of Martial is one of the first ones I learned. It should be familiar to all students of Wheelock:

Nuper erat medicus, nunc est vespillo Diaulus.
Quod vespillo facit, fecerat et medicus.
by furrykef
Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:52 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Sentence from LLPSI Cap 39
Replies: 2
Views: 1675

Re: Sentence from LLPSI Cap 39

I know this is an old thread, but I happened upon it while googling this sentence. Given the context, I think the sense is "upon which shores we are" whether than "upon which shores we should live". Aeneas and his crew are lost and wondering where they've ended up, and that's the question that Venus...
by furrykef
Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:03 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: qua de re
Replies: 2
Views: 1742

Re: qua de re

It certainly looks like a valid reading of it. Qua de re = de qua re = de hoc/illo, and "de" can certainly mean "about", so I don't see why not.
by furrykef
Thu May 28, 2015 9:33 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: perfect participle rediisse misspelled?
Replies: 2
Views: 1992

Re: perfect participle rediisse misspelled?

"Rediisse" isn't a participle. It's an infinitive. The participles are reditus, rediens, rediturus, redeundus. This inconsistency is also present in some other forms, and also occurs in the verb "eo" itself. For instance, you may see "redisti" rather than "rediisti", and "isse" rather than "iisse". ...
by furrykef
Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:35 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Pronouncing B as P before S and T.
Replies: 6
Views: 2890

Re: Pronouncing B as P before S and T.

I think he's talking about words like "urbs". You'll find it's difficult to pronounce "urbs" with a "b" sound unless you also voice the "s", which the Romans probably didn't do, so they just said "urps" instead.
by furrykef
Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:29 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: pronunciation of letter 'I'
Replies: 1
Views: 894

Re: pronunciation of letter 'I'

If "i" is the first letter of the entire word (not counting prefixes, so "adiuvare" is an example), then yes. Otherwise, only in the combination "ei" and in the words huius, cuius, huic, cui, and hui. ("Fuit", for example, is "foo-it".) "Ai" is not a diphthong because the corresponding diphthong is ...
by furrykef
Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:30 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Anywhere I can find Latin texts online?
Replies: 9
Views: 3337

Re: Anywhere I can find Latin texts online?

There's lots of stuff at http://la.wikisource.org/, too.
by furrykef
Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:23 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Learning Latin with Familia Romana
Replies: 3
Views: 1739

Re: Learning Latin with Familia Romana

I immediately grasped the concept of case when I was first exposed to it in Latin. (I say "in Latin" because I heard things like "nominative case" in my English classes in high school, but did not pay much attention at the time because I was not yet so linguistically inclined.) It's easiest to deal ...
by furrykef
Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:18 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin easy to learn?
Replies: 6
Views: 2845

Re: Latin easy to learn?

Did the first post get deleted?

(EDIT: Oops, yes, it did, and I'd have known that if I'd read the replies more carefully.)
by furrykef
Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:34 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: macrons
Replies: 13
Views: 12401

Re: macrons

What I did was create a custom keyboard layout using this tool that maps ` to the macrons using dead keys, so to get ā, I would type `a.
by furrykef
Tue May 31, 2011 11:32 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Some (more questions from LLPSI
Replies: 13
Views: 5238

Re: Some (more questions from LLPSI

So in vita omnium nostrum servata est.' 'omnium nostrum' are BOTH both partitive genitive, right? The "omnium" isn't partitive, just possessive: "everyone's life". It's just the "nostrum" that's partitive. And the part. gen. form 'nostrum' is really acting like the genitive plural of a 3rd declensi...
by furrykef
Tue May 31, 2011 5:10 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Some (more questions from LLPSI
Replies: 13
Views: 5238

Re: Some (more questions from LLPSI

Craig_Thomas is right. I'd completely forgotten this usage, especially since it applies only to "noster" and "vester", not "meus", etc. The genitive of pronouns (instead of possessive pronouns like "meus") is used for the partitive, e.g., pars meī = part of me; pars nostrī/nostrum (here interchangea...
by furrykef
Sun May 29, 2011 6:09 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Some (more questions from LLPSI
Replies: 13
Views: 5238

Re: Some (more questions from LLPSI

1) Iactura mercium non modo navis, sed etiam vita omnium nostrum servata est. What's the difference between 'nostrum' and 'nostri' and 'vestrum' and 'vestri'? "Nostrum" is the accusative of "noster". It works the same way as "tuus" and "meus". "Nostrī" and "vestrī" are the genitive form; they're on...
by furrykef
Fri May 27, 2011 12:32 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: [quis]quis amat valeat...
Replies: 5
Views: 4493

Re: [quis]quis amat valeat...

I wonder if that's the actual inscription rather than an imitation... seems too 'readable' to be actual Latin cursive...
by furrykef
Fri May 27, 2011 12:24 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: XIII Familia Romana
Replies: 4
Views: 1777

Re: XIII Familia Romana

To put it another way, it's literally "in the Martian month", except of course the word "Martian" brings to mind the planet much more easily than the god. ;)
by furrykef
Fri May 20, 2011 11:13 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Language Study Milestones
Replies: 2
Views: 2385

Re: Language Study Milestones

One thing I do have learned over the time is that one thing is paramount: whatever you do, do it regularly. Putting Latin (or whatever) aside for a longer stretch of time is highly dangerous, and in the case of Latin even more so due to its difficulty. "Use it or lose it", that's the motto. This is...
by furrykef
Fri May 20, 2011 6:22 am
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: narravi quod eram (L.A. 9)
Replies: 3
Views: 4377

Re: narravi quod eram (L.A. 9)

I'm aware of the quid/[id] quod distinction... Spanish has the same thing ("qué" vs. "lo que"). Where I'm getting tripped up is I don't see how the sense here is different between the two sentences.
by furrykef
Fri May 20, 2011 5:18 am
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: narravi quod eram (L.A. 9)
Replies: 3
Views: 4377

narravi quod eram (L.A. 9)

Nūlla fors mihi tē, Maecēnās, obtulit: optimus Vergilius et post hunc Varius dīxērunt quid essem. Ut ad tē vēnī, singultim pauca locūtus (nam pudor prohibēbat plūra profārī), ego nōn dīxī mē clārō patre nātum esse sed narrāvī quod eram. I'm kind of lost at "narrāvī quod eram". Here's what I've got ...
by furrykef
Fri May 20, 2011 5:10 am
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: sequence of tenses
Replies: 1
Views: 3191

Re: sequence of tenses

This doesn't really have to do with sequence of tenses in itself. It just brought it up rather confusingly in the context of sequence of tenses, which I think was completely unnecessary, especially since it didn't even elaborate on it. We do something like this in English: "So this guy walks up to m...
by furrykef
Tue May 17, 2011 11:04 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Wanted: List-Major Classical Authors-Order of Difficulty
Replies: 3
Views: 7722

Re: Wanted: List-Major Classical Authors-Order of Difficulty

Well, "difficulty" is a hard thing to pin down because it depends on what you've studied before. Many would consider Caesar easier than Cicero, but I think Cicero might be easier for me because I'm more familiar with his style (since Wheelock uses his style as a sort of gold standard). We can probab...
by furrykef
Mon May 16, 2011 1:35 pm
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: More Loci Antiqui 6!
Replies: 2
Views: 3541

Re: More Loci Antiqui 6!

Cūr nēmō alter aliquid dīxit? Adriāne? Thesaure? Quō fuistis?
by furrykef
Wed May 11, 2011 9:48 am
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: More Loci Antiqui 6!
Replies: 2
Views: 3541

Re: More Loci Antiqui 6!

This one took me some effort myself; the hardest was figuring out the part beginning with "optimam"... Quid vero stultius quam cetera parare quae parantur pecunia sed amicos non parare optimam et pulcherrimam quasi supellectilem vitae Don't forget the comma after "amīcōs nōn parāre". :) "But what is...
by furrykef
Wed May 11, 2011 9:28 am
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: Loci Antiqui 6- lost subject..
Replies: 1
Views: 2754

Re: Loci Antiqui 6- lost subject..

I'm amused, because I'd just finished L.A.5 and so L.A.6 is my next subject myself. Careful with your typing, BTW; "ess" should be "esse". I am having particular trouble with prolific amount of plurals - fides, caritas There aren't any plurals here. Fidēs and cāritās are both nominative singular (fi...
by furrykef
Tue May 03, 2011 5:27 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: M&F for post-Wheelock's
Replies: 3
Views: 11924

Re: M&F for post-Wheelock's

plus it has this huge advantage over Wheelock: it presents the subjunctive very early, as it should be. Many people seem to finish Wheelock with a very hesitant understanding of the subjunctive. M&F introduces the subjunctive early, which makes sense because the subjunctive is vital to Latin. Well,...
by furrykef
Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:52 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lewis & Short search now available on Mycroft
Replies: 2
Views: 1143

Re: Lewis & Short search now available on Mycroft

Very well, I've made one for Glossa as well. :3
by furrykef
Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:42 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Lewis & Short search now available on Mycroft
Replies: 2
Views: 1143

Lewis & Short search now available on Mycroft

I got tired of going to the Perseus website to look up a word in Lewis & Short, so I made a web browser search plugin instead. You can get it from this page (There are a couple of other Perseus plugins there that somebody else made, too. If you search for "Latin", you can also find a couple of plugi...
by furrykef
Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:05 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: One more pronunciation question
Replies: 5
Views: 2139

Re: One more pronunciation question

I doubt the Romans were very exact about such things. There are languages today that have both distinctive consonant length and distinctive vowel length... Italian has consonant length, and Japanese has both. But if I compare Japanese and Italian pronunciation, I notice that the Japanese seem to hol...
by furrykef
Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:55 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Seeking Texts with Macrons online
Replies: 20
Views: 15874

Re: Seeking Texts with Macrons online

I don't see anything "quixotic" about marking long vowels. If you want to read poetry, you'll need to know which vowels are long, after all. Either you'll have 'em marked or you'll have to remember at least some of them, and I think not using macrons on a regular basis makes them a lot harder to rem...
by furrykef
Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:45 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Capitalization in Latin
Replies: 6
Views: 20580

Re: Capitalization in Latin

"Optima" with a capital letter would likely be the name of a person (or divine being or something), who might be an optimist, but there's no convention I've heard of for capitalizing words to change their meaning. There are many different conventions for capitalization in modern Latin. One way to do...
by furrykef
Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:08 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Where Should I Begin In Latin?
Replies: 11
Views: 8375

Re: Where Should I Begin In Latin?

As Hampie says, what is called "Old" Latin is very uncommon and more or less only an interest for linguists who study the development of the language. Not quite. I believe Plautus is generally considered Old Latin. Ah...I get it now. I kept getting confused because on wikipedia(I know I shouldn't b...
by furrykef
Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:02 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help with a latin motto
Replies: 6
Views: 3021

Re: Help with a latin motto

They are, however, all equally grammatically correct, so just choose the one that reflects the desired meaning. :)
by furrykef
Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:04 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: humi
Replies: 2
Views: 1021

Re: humi

Wheelock calls it the locative form. I don't think the distinction is terribly important here; the important thing is "humī = on the ground".
by furrykef
Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:15 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Translation Questions
Replies: 24
Views: 11236

Re: Translation Questions

Also Romanian, as well as any Slavic language such as Russian. German has four cases, but they usually inflect on the article rather than the noun and it's losing the genitive in favor of the dative. Dutch, on the other hand, has lost its cases, declining only for number and gender as in Romance lan...
by furrykef
Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:58 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Original meaning of 'malum'
Replies: 7
Views: 14366

Re: Original meaning of 'malum'

They're actually two words: "malum" (with no long vowel) meaning "evil" and "mālum" (with a long "a") meaning "apple". The Romans probably had little to no contact with the Hebrews when the words "malum" and "mālum" were formed -- the words certainly predate the birth of Christ (and therefore Christ...
by furrykef
Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:56 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Word Association Game (English)
Replies: 478
Views: 153486

Re: Word Association Game (English)

Jeff Tirey wrote:I revived this thread to get some metrics on board activity and see who's active around here.
Not sure that's the best way to go about it, considering that so far there have been two people (including me) whose only reason for posting would be "Why is this here?" :P
by furrykef
Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:44 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Please can someone translate
Replies: 11
Views: 3834

Re: Please can someone translate

Well, I think "quem" not "qui" and "vir quem nunquam potero esse" means literally what Furrykef said "The man whom never will I be able to be." I don't understand why you want to use "quem" instead of "quī" here. In English we say "I could never be him", but in Latin, a nominative subject takes a n...
by furrykef
Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:10 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Please can someone translate
Replies: 11
Views: 3834

Re: Please can someone translate

It's usually good form to show us your own attempt unless you have a good reason why you need the translation and can't try it yourself. But I'll give you this one. :) How about "vir quī numquam poterō esse"? Literally, "the man I will never be able to be". Though in context maybe a different form o...
by furrykef
Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:11 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Marcus Aurelius Quote
Replies: 4
Views: 4801

Re: Marcus Aurelius Quote

I looked at Marcus Aurelius's Wikiquote page , and I think this must be the one. Luckily, it's one of the quotes that has the Greek: Adapt yourself to the environment in which your lot has been cast, and show true love to the fellow-mortals with whom destiny has surrounded you. Οἷς συγκεκλήρωσαι πρά...
by furrykef
Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:03 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Word Association Game (English)
Replies: 478
Views: 153486

Re: Word Association Game (English)

Honestly, I was thinking the same thing, but since it was Jeff himself that revived the thread, I didn't think that voicing any dissent would accomplish anything. ^^;