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by phil96
Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:39 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 1 - Exercises - Latin to English
Replies: 2
Views: 6953

Re: Unit 1 - Exercises - Latin to English

Sentence 7 You have rightly captured the continuity of action implied in clamabatis . I think "You used to see ... but did not shout..." also does that, with the continuity carrying over from one verb to the other, and sounds a bit more natural to my ears. Clearly you understand how the verbs work i...
by phil96
Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:44 pm
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 1 - Exercises - English to Latin
Replies: 3
Views: 7062

Re: Unit 1 - Exercises - English to Latin

Hi Venabili 1. Both are fine. M&F recommend genitive second as the usual order, but it's quite common to see the other. Just as we say "the punishment of the women" or "the women's punishment". 2. Poena/poenis? Once again, there's nothing wrong with your syntax. A quick glance at the quotations unde...
by phil96
Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:27 am
Forum: Latin For Beginners by D'Ooge
Topic: Exercise 306 sentence #2
Replies: 2
Views: 5514

Re: Exercise 306 sentence #2

Hi Paul
Yes, you are right. I think it should be celeriora (that was what you meant :wink: ) for the neuter nominative plural comparative.
Phil
by phil96
Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:57 am
Forum: Wheelock's Latin
Topic: Chapter 1: “You ought not to praise me.”
Replies: 10
Views: 18694

Re: Chapter 1: “You ought not to praise me.”

Well, I think I've settled on me•gís•ter and me•gís•tra . Is that right? chad (cb) posted this link in the Learning Latin forum just recently that answers that one (Yes) http://www.archive.org/stream/newlatingrammar00benngoog#page/n28/mode/2up See 4 rules 1 and 3. (I'm unreliable on word order thou...
by phil96
Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:51 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: the expression "cum data fuerit"
Replies: 2
Views: 3325

Re: the expression "cum data fuerit"

Further thoughts. I believe papal documents are named simply after their first few words. Do you have the complete latin text, or even the first paragraph? It's a bit hard without any context. My speculation, for what it's worth, is that the expression might be a future temporal cum clause, where th...
by phil96
Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:38 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: the expression "cum data fuerit"
Replies: 2
Views: 3325

Re: the expression "cum data fuerit"

spqr wrote:Fuerit is the future perfect(will have been)
Could also be (perfect) subjunctive, especially with the cum.
Merry Christmas!
by phil96
Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:08 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin: An Intensive Course
Replies: 16
Views: 5121

Re: Latin: An Intensive Course

I'd second thesaurus' comments about M&F as a preparation for reading extended Latin. I went on to read Harrius Potter (OK. OK. It's not Caesar or Cicero, but there are plenty of TextKit posts saying it isn't all that easy for beginners.) and was pleasantly surprised to not have much problem with th...
by phil96
Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:30 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Latin: An Intensive Course
Replies: 16
Views: 5121

Re: Latin: An Intensive Course

I just placed an order for the book Latin: An Intensive Course (Moreland & Fleischer). It will be a while before it arrives here, but I wanted to know what you guys think of it as a text. Is anyone here currently working from it? Any pointers? I think you'll get all sorts of conflicting opinions on...
by phil96
Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:22 pm
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 10 Exercises
Replies: 6
Views: 9260

Re: Unit 10 Exercises

Number 41 is this unit is giving me problems: Quantā maximē poterat vī superāvit Yes I remember having trouble with that one too. And at that stage we didn't have the answer key. The best I could come up with turns out to be much the same: "He overcame, using as much force as he could." I've just g...
by phil96
Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:25 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Anyone using this now?
Replies: 6
Views: 8978

Re: Anyone using this now?

Hi Teddy2005 When you all go through M&F's exercises - how do you check your translations? I think this is the only real downside to dropping the class - I have no way of finding out the answers now. So what do you guys do? Thanks! Look at tempoclavis' post Answer Key for M&F . There seem to be occa...
by phil96
Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:23 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit Six Exercises (II)
Replies: 3
Views: 7239

Re: Unit Six Exercises (II)

Salve Tommasine, Waiting for a week without an answer to perfectly reasonable questions is not a nice experience, so I'll try to answer. But English to Latin is my weakest skill, so make sure you have some grains of salt at the ready! 1 - We understood that the city, after it had been attacked, was ...
by phil96
Mon May 02, 2011 8:17 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Anyone using this now?
Replies: 6
Views: 8978

Re: Anyone using this now?

Well, I'll come out of the woodwork again. I've been plugging away at M&F for several years (can't possibly imagine completing it usefully in only four weeks!) and am now working on the final passage from Caesar in unit 18. There are likely to be others of us lurking around too, but I think the furt...
by phil96
Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:57 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Word Association Game (English)
Replies: 478
Views: 164296

Re: Word Association Game (English)

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by phil96
Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:48 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Word Association Game (English)
Replies: 478
Views: 164296

Re: Word Association Game (English)

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by phil96
Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:46 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: New Members Introduction Thread (New Users Post Here!)
Replies: 625
Views: 232095

Re: New Members Introduction Thread (New Users Post Here!)

Wayne Gebert wrote:Hi Everyone,
I am a Curation Officer at the National Herbarium of Victoria, Melbourne, Australia.
How good is that! As a (former) botanist also from Melbourne I must welcome you to the Forum. There can't be many Latin-learning-botanists in Melbourne!

Phil Smith
by phil96
Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:38 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Stress in compound verbs
Replies: 2
Views: 1420

Stress in compound verbs

Do all the forms of verbs with a prefixing preposition follow the standard rules for stress?
Forms such as circumdedit and āvocet sound a little odd to my (non-Latin!) ear when the stress falls on the antepenult.
by phil96
Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:47 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Miserere mei!
Replies: 1
Views: 1399

Miserere mei!

The grammars say that misereor takes the genitive to express its object. So where does miserere nobis in the Latin Mass come from? Is it just a later (post-classical) development where the dative(?) is used, or is there another explanation? And now please excuse the cross-posting from the M&F forum,...
by phil96
Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:02 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Units 9-11 Review B
Replies: 0
Views: 4187

Units 9-11 Review B

I'm having trouble with the translation to Latin (III. Sentence 1) How many days after me do you want to set out to Rome? M&F have previously given us quantus - how much, how great, and quot - how many. I took from this that if you were referring to countable things you used quot, and for, well........
by phil96
Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:49 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Review: Units Nine to Eleven 9 11
Replies: 4
Views: 6798

Re: Review: Units Nine to Eleven 9 11

modus.irrealis wrote:should it be plurium instead of plurimum?
Yes, you're right. A bit of the blind leading the blind here! Thanks.
by phil96
Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:22 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Review: Units Nine to Eleven 9 11
Replies: 4
Views: 6798

Re: Review: Units Nine to Eleven 9 11

Review of syntax 4. Multi viri sua sententia sunt felices; illi autem multorum saepe domini sunt; sed plurimum servi. I need a literal translation; I can't pick out the objective genitive indicated in the hint. Here is my effort. Please correct. Many men with his opinion are happy; of them however ...
by phil96
Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:51 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit Six - Reading
Replies: 9
Views: 17521

Re: Unit Six - Reading

Is it just me or is this passage much more difficult than anything else presented previously in the book? Hi Dave, I'm just another student working my way through M&F a few chapters further on, so take what I say with a grain of salt; others with more exposure to Latin literature than me will comme...
by phil96
Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:37 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 8 Preliminary exercises
Replies: 1
Views: 4935

Re: Unit 8 Preliminary exercises

11. Mihi quaerenti opus est mente acri ut haec intellegam. To me when questioning the need is for a sharp mind that I might understand this. I had difficulty with this one too. The problem for me was getting quaerentī into smooth English. Without it, the sentence is I need a sharp mind [or a keen i...
by phil96
Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:51 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 11 Exercises
Replies: 7
Views: 10211

Re: Unit 11 Exercises

38) Imperatore multa locuto, milites fassi sunt se parum mortem vereri sed bene scire se omnes mori non posse; sibi opus esse mala atque pericula pati ut omnis orbis terrarum se cum gaudio laudaret dicens malum propter audaciam horum virorum e terra pulsum esse. So far I have: With the commander ha...
by phil96
Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:31 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 11 Exercises
Replies: 7
Views: 10211

Re: Unit 11 Exercises

modus.irrealis wrote:Because of where it comes in the sentence, I would take tui as modifying cives, "your (fellow) citizens".
Ah. Of course! I got fixated on tui as a genitive and forgot that the nom. pl. has the same form. Back to Latin 101 for me!
by phil96
Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:57 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 11 Exercises
Replies: 7
Views: 10211

Re: Unit 11 Exercises

Salve NightNGaleX3x, 11) Bonum est velle pro amatis pati. I thought something like "It is a good thing to be prepared to suffer on behalf of loved ones." 12) Si conans servare vitam consulis moriaris tui cives fortissimum factum laudent et ut statua ponatur in foro hortentur. I see that my translati...
by phil96
Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:30 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit Three - Exercises
Replies: 11
Views: 19735

Re: Unit Three - Exercises

Hi revcom, As a fellow user of M&F (just about to begin chapter 12) I should make a start towards paying back for all the help others have given me so far. So here goes. I think you have got the sense of the sentence well. I'd make a few small points along the way. magnā cum cūrā can be "with great ...
by phil96
Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:04 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Independent Study of Latin
Replies: 6
Views: 2109

Re: Independent Study of Latin

Salve dlb. - As a botanist I always regretted that I'd turned down the opportunity to learn Latin at school in favour of a modern language. (Think of all those botanical descriptions that have to be in Latin even now, not to mention the scientific names for plants). - The sheer challenge of it. (Cry...
by phil96
Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:10 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Did Fred Nurk walk upon Italy's mountains green?
Replies: 6
Views: 2177

Re: Did Fred Nurk walk upon Italy's mountains green?

You haven't seen Gladiator, then? I thought that, as an Australian (presumed), you would be a Russell Crowe fan. No, didn't see it; must have been doing something else at the time. RC impressed me in A Beautiful Mind but generally I'm not a fan ( Russellus Cornix? Russellum Cantumgalli malo ). Anyw...
by phil96
Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:14 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Did Fred Nurk walk upon Italy's mountains green?
Replies: 6
Views: 2177

Re: Did Fred Nurk walk upon Italy's mountains green?

Gratias tibi, Adriane. The Adam/Wilson reference will be very useful in a wider context too, for one whose knowledge of the Roman Empire has been fed almost entirely by Asterix the Gaul and Robert Graves.
by phil96
Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:02 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Did Fred Nurk walk upon Italy's mountains green?
Replies: 6
Views: 2177

Did Fred Nurk walk upon Italy's mountains green?

Does Latin have a Joe Blow, Fred Nurk, John Doe, Jean Dupont, Toto, <insert local variant here>, with a bit more personality than quidam? Someone who is the typical soldier/slave/yokel or even senator for that matter? Perhaps in popular plays as a figure of fun?
by phil96
Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:11 pm
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 10 Exercises
Replies: 6
Views: 9260

Re: Unit 10 Exercises

Here's one of my favorites, from Tacitus. The indirect statement is introduced by a genitive participle: ... multus ea super re variusque rumor. et studiis diversis apud principem certabatur adseverantium non adeo aegram Italiam ut senatum suppeditare urbi suae nequiret.... (and indirect discourse ...
by phil96
Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:47 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 10 Exercises
Replies: 6
Views: 9260

Re: Unit 10 Exercises

M&F don't mention this construction at all, as far as I can see. But I've found the details in Bradley, A&G etc, now that I know what to look for. Thank you.
by phil96
Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:10 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: Unit 10 Exercises
Replies: 6
Views: 9260

Unit 10 Exercises

Would someone please check these translations. 5. Sorōrī meae nōmen est magnā apud omnēs glōriā; eam oculīs tuīs in lītore errantem saepe vīdistī. "Everyone holds that my sister's name is glorious; with your own eyes you have often seen her wandering on the shore." [My sister has a name of great glo...
by phil96
Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:18 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Intensive Biblical Hebrew textbook
Replies: 7
Views: 4332

Re: Intensive Biblical Hebrew textbook

Is there any material in Weingreen which Lambdin lacks which would justify acquiring both, or would Lambdin cover everything Weingreen does? Short answer is that Lambdin (L) covers all of Weingreen (W). It comes down to order of presentation. W tends to introduce the broad sweep of verbal concepts ...
by phil96
Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:35 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Intensive Biblical Hebrew textbook
Replies: 7
Views: 4332

Re: Intensive Biblical Hebrew textbook

Whilst I too like Weingreen's book, you might also want to consider Lambdin's Introduction to Biblical Hebrew , which covers the ground in more detail. There is also an annotated key available. Lambdin supplies phonetic transliteration of the Hebrew in the first half of his book, which might be usef...
by phil96
Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:23 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: The money or the wife? Unit 9 Ex. 1
Replies: 6
Views: 9374

Re: The money or the wife? Unit 9 Ex. 1

Damoetas wrote: Bradley's Arnold has a good discussion of this (if you don't have a copy yet, ...
Ah, you're very kind. I should start reading my copy! And, sadly, discessurus esse wasn't just a little slip; rather, a plain old mistake. Thanks, your comments are invariably both helpful and encouraging.
by phil96
Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:19 pm
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: The money or the wife? Unit 9 Ex. 1
Replies: 6
Views: 9374

Re: The money or the wife? Unit 9 Ex. 1

so it would be impossible for her to follow it up by saying, "But the next day I was not able to find any." Yes, I wondered about "the next day" in the context and was going to ask. M&F's section on converting to Indirect Statement mentions subject --> accusative, finite verb --> infinitive, then c...
by phil96
Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:00 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: The money or the wife? Unit 9 Ex. 1
Replies: 6
Views: 9374

Re: The money or the wife? Unit 9 Ex. 1

Thank you. And since no change of subject is marked, we can conclude that se remains the subject throughout, and eam refers to the femina . How might a change in the subject be indicated? For instance if it were (b), "He told me that he had heard his wife shouting in a rather loud voice that she did...
by phil96
Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:17 am
Forum: M&F's Latin: An Intensive Course
Topic: The money or the wife? Unit 9 Ex. 1
Replies: 6
Views: 9374

The money or the wife? Unit 9 Ex. 1

19. Eō diē mihi dīxit sē audīvisse fēminam altiōre vōce clāmentem satis sibi pecūniae nōn esse ut Rōmam sine morā īret; proximō autem diē sē invenīre eam nōn posse. I'm having nesting issues with the second part. Everything seems fine up to the semi-colon. "On that day he told me he had heard his w...
by phil96
Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:15 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: aio
Replies: 2
Views: 1346

Re: aio

Thank you. It never occurred to me to look for pronunciation tips in the body of A&G.