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by BrianB
Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:13 am
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: Can anyone recommend a good old sword-and-sandal movie?
Replies: 13
Views: 1939

Re: Can anyone recommend a good old sword-and-sandal movie?

Sword-and-sandal is not, on the whole, a genre I have taken much of an interest in, apart from the specifically Biblical movies, such as Quo Vadis and Ben Hur. Two outstanding pictures, though, which I’m sure you must already be fully familiar with, are Spartacus and Cleopatra. I don’t think there’s...
by BrianB
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: What's the funniest discussion you have ever had on an Internet forum?
Replies: 2
Views: 436

Re: What's the funniest discussion you have ever had on an Internet forum?

You occasionally meet posters like that on just about every forum. He realizes he’s made a silly mistake but he can’t find a way to retract without losing face, so he feels compelled to go on asserting the same nonsensical untruth time after time. Incidentally, is Numquam obliviscuntur heroes a corr...
by BrianB
Thu May 23, 2019 8:08 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Most literal translations with facing texts?
Replies: 22
Views: 2184

Re: Most literal translations with facing texts?

@BrianB -- these cribs were certainly aimed at the students. Speaking of, how are your own Greek studies progressing? Groping my way, is the short answer. I started off with Athenaze, which I can readily imagine is a very good beginners’ textbook for classroom use, but I found it less suitable for ...
by BrianB
Thu May 23, 2019 3:16 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Most literal translations with facing texts?
Replies: 22
Views: 2184

Re: Most literal translations with facing texts?

If interlinears are bad for your health, then this 'interverbal' Homer must be deadly https://archive.org/details/odysseyofhomerco01gile/page/210 I wonder who the translator and publisher had in mind as their target readership. It looks as though it’s aimed at teachers whose Greek wasn’t good enoug...
by BrianB
Tue May 21, 2019 2:56 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: Modern Greek Translations of the Bible/New Testament
Replies: 6
Views: 1721

Re: Modern Greek Translations of the Bible/New Testament

You could try asking the Bible Society, formerly known as the British & Foreign Bible Society, which apparently published that edition in the 1830s or earlier. The society still lists a bilingual NT (if “bilingual” is the correct term in this case), though presumably with a more recent Modern Greek ...
by BrianB
Tue May 21, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: What does Decius Mundus mean?
Replies: 1
Views: 428

Re: What does Decius Mundus mean?

In the Loeb edition, a footnote points out the similarity of the Mundus and Paulina episode to the older story of the Egyptian king Nectanebus II and Olympias, supposedly fathering Alexander the Great under the appearance of Zeus Ammon.
by BrianB
Mon May 20, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: JOSEPHUS' ANTIQUITIES (Books XVI-XX) 4 Questions
Replies: 9
Views: 1383

Re: JOSEPHUS' ANTIQUITIES (Books XVI-XX) 4 Questions

Tentative answers to two of your four questions. (1) In Whiston’s eighteenth-century English, “criminal conversation” is a euphemism equivalent to “illicit intercourse”. So, yes, Herod’s son was paying for gay sex. (4) Greek names were not unusual in Judea at that time. The Twelve Apostles included ...
by BrianB
Sat May 18, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: A Little Embarassed to Ask
Replies: 4
Views: 752

Re: A Little Embarassed to Ask

I don’t think there is a standard list of English terms, covering all languages. There isn’t even a unified standard rule for transliterating, say, Russian or Hebrew into the Roman alphabet. Different writers and different publishers adopt different systems. Here's one set of phonetic symbols coveri...
by BrianB
Wed May 15, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: No Greek words beginning with σλ-?
Replies: 1
Views: 458

No Greek words beginning with σλ-?

Just noticed that there seem to be no Greek words beginning with σλ-. Would that have been regarded as an unacceptable consonant cluster? If so, it seems odd in a language that has no objection to σκ-, σμ-, and others. And might it explain the α inserted in the biblical name Σαλωμὼν, where “Σλωμὼν” ...
by BrianB
Thu May 09, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: A beginner’s question about breathings
Replies: 2
Views: 486

Re: A beginner’s question about breathings

A folk etymology. Well, well. So the Greeks had those as well. Who’d a thunk it. Thank you, Joel. In just a few words you cleared up a mystery that I had been struggling with for two whole days.
by BrianB
Thu May 09, 2019 3:09 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: A beginner’s question about breathings
Replies: 2
Views: 486

A beginner’s question about breathings

In Hoffman’s NT vocabulary list that ἑκηβόλος kindly shared with me, there are two different Greek forms of the name Jerusalem, Ἱεροσόλυμα and Ἰερουσαλήμ. I have no difficulty with the extra υ in one form, nor with the different endings, nor the different genders, nor even with the accent falling on...
by BrianB
Wed May 01, 2019 4:29 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Learning French in Middle Age
Replies: 6
Views: 1452

Re: Learning French in Middle Age

From that New York Times report: Children need seven or eight years of intensive immersion to speak like a native. These years must start by about age 10, to fit them all in by age 17 or 18, when there’s a sharp drop in the rate of learning. (He’s not sure whether this drop is caused by changes in t...
by BrianB
Wed May 01, 2019 1:00 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Anyone familiar with Green’s *Brief Introduction to NT Greek*?
Replies: 11
Views: 1413

Re: Anyone familiar with Green’s *Brief Introduction to NT Greek*?

That’s amazing. Thank you! A vocabulary of no more than 311 words accounts for close to 80 percent of the wordcount of the NT. I’ll accept Hoffman’s challenge and see if I can memorize the whole list in ten weeks. [Edit] In addition to a vocabulary of 300 words, you mentioned earlier a figure of aro...
by BrianB
Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:09 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Anyone familiar with Green’s *Brief Introduction to NT Greek*?
Replies: 11
Views: 1413

Re: Anyone familiar with Green’s *Brief Introduction to NT Greek*?

Thank you again, ἑκηβόλος. I like the look of your statistical approach. I find it encouraging. From what little I’ve had a chance to look at so far, it’s the verbs I find daunting. Active, middle, and passive; indicative, subjunctive, optative; strong and weak aorist … there’s clearly a great deal ...
by BrianB
Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Anyone familiar with Green’s *Brief Introduction to NT Greek*?
Replies: 11
Views: 1413

Re: Anyone familiar with Green’s *Brief Introduction to NT Greek*?

Thank you, Joel. I have downloaded Book 1 of Athenaze. The user-friendly format is attractive and I think I’ll start here rather than with Green.

Am I correct in thinking that the JACT books aren’t available anywhere as free downloads?
by BrianB
Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:47 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Anyone familiar with Green’s *Brief Introduction to NT Greek*?
Replies: 11
Views: 1413

Anyone familiar with Green’s *Brief Introduction to NT Greek*?

Any recommendations? Any criticisms? I’ve been looking through the primers that can be downloaded from the “Library” section here, and this is the one I’m thinking of using. My main doubt is that textbooks that give good results in a classroom environment may not always be suitable for home study wi...
by BrianB
Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The role of ὡς in καρτερέω + participle (Heb. 11:27)
Replies: 15
Views: 2251

Re: The role of ὡς in καρτερέω + participle (Heb. 11:27)

Thank you, ἑκηβόλος, for taking the trouble to write such a thoughtful and illuminating exposition of the complexities of the Greek language, and also for your introduction to the distinguished senior members of this forum. Allow me to ask you this hypothetical question, getting back to Hebrews 11:2...
by BrianB
Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:42 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The role of ὡς in καρτερέω + participle (Heb. 11:27)
Replies: 15
Views: 2251

Re: The role of ὡς in καρτερέω + participle (Heb. 11:27)

Fair enough, Joel, but I think I made it clear I was referring to what the translator is writing in English, not what he is reading in Greek. Bible Hub lists twenty-something translations of this verse. Nearly all of them end with “he saw him who is invisible,” “seeing Him who is unseen,” “he could ...
by BrianB
Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:05 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?
Replies: 15
Views: 2552

Re: The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?

My favorite character is the πανταπώλης. "Here! Here's a really big needle! Does that help?" As a matter of interest, how big were the biggest needles, in real life? What have the archeologists found? Tentmakers, surely, must have used large, tough needles that they could push through a coarse, hea...
by BrianB
Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The role of ὡς in καρτερέω + participle (Heb. 11:27)
Replies: 15
Views: 2251

Re: The role of ὡς in καρτερέω + participle (Heb. 11:27)

This verse presents the translator with a double challenge, I think. Even if he succeeds in finding a satisfactory way to join together the ideas of perseverance and seeing, he will still be left uncomfortably aware that he is on the way to ending his sentence with “seeing the invisible,” an unexpla...
by BrianB
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:13 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?
Replies: 15
Views: 2552

Re: The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?

That’s an interesting link. Plenty of needles’ eyes, though no camels! By the way, I notice they give that as the original meaning of the name of the letter quf. I was told it means “monkey,” qof in modern Hebrew, and I like that explanation because it means that our Roman capital Q began life as a ...
by BrianB
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?
Replies: 15
Views: 2552

Re: The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?

Barry Hofstetter wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:26 pm
For all we know, the Talmud gets it from the Christians. :roll:
Are you suggesting that as a real possibility, or is it intended just as a provocative quip?
by BrianB
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:14 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?
Replies: 15
Views: 2552

Re: The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?

The Jews wrote more literature than just the Old Testament. Yes, but if it’s not in the OT, Christian copyists couldn’t be expected to be familiar with the expression, and one of them might well have had the bright idea of “improving” or rationalizing a saying that some Christians found puzzling. T...
by BrianB
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:18 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?
Replies: 15
Views: 2552

Re: The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?

Thank you, Joel. I’m going to have a couple of supplementary questions, if you don’t mind, but first, you aroused my curiosity with your observation that “Camel through the eye of the needle was apparently a Jewish phrase of some kind, which appears elsewhere.” I just had a quick search online and f...
by BrianB
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:57 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?
Replies: 15
Views: 2552

The “eye of a needle” saying: a camel or a rope?

Please be patient with what is probably a foolishly naïve question from an absolute beginner. Some Bibles give a footnote saying that “rope” or “cord” is an alternative reading instead of “camel”. I suppose this must be a variant reading found in some manuscripts, in one or more of the three paralle...
by BrianB
Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:19 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Adding Declensions to English
Replies: 4
Views: 806

Re: Adding Declensions to English

We don’t even have numbered conjugations in English. If you wanted to, I suppose you could classify *sing, sang, sung* and *sink, sank, sunk* as one conjugation and *bring, brought, brought* and *think, thought, thought* as a different conjugation. But would that actually help anyone to learn Englis...
by BrianB
Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:17 pm
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: Which side of the road did the Romans drive/march/walk on?
Replies: 7
Views: 1824

Re: Which side of the road did the Romans drive/march/walk on?

In Britain, the usual explanation of the origin of the “Keep Left” rule is that, in case of a fight with drawn swords, most people are right-handed and therefore feel safer confronting a potential attacker approaching on their right. What this explanation clearly fails to take into account is that o...
by BrianB
Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:17 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: A background of pretty green circles
Replies: 3
Views: 725

Re: A background of pretty green circles

Looking at your location, it occurs to me to wonder whether somebody may perhaps be reading your emails over your shoulder.
by BrianB
Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:52 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Biblical languages & Septuagint
Replies: 5
Views: 866

Re: Biblical languages & Septuagint

Thanks again! I remember noticing that Mark explains to his readers that two lepta are equivalent to one quadrans, which seems a reasonable thing to do in a Gospel supposedly written in Rome, but then being surprised to discover that Matthew puts the same word in Jesus’ mouth in one of the sayings t...
by BrianB
Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:08 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Biblical languages & Septuagint
Replies: 5
Views: 866

Re: Biblical languages & Septuagint

Thank you! I believe there are occasional borrowings from other languages, as well, such as Pharaoh from Egyptian. I think I’ve read about occasional Persian words, though I don’t remember what they are. Since you mention Aramaic, allow me to ask you a question. What is known about the pronunciation...
by BrianB
Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Biblical languages & Septuagint
Replies: 5
Views: 866

Biblical languages & Septuagint

Hello, I'm a new member, I just discovered textkit yesterday. I have recently become interested in Biblical languages, first in Hebrew and now also in Greek and Latin. I know a little Hebrew (I did a beginner's course a few years ago, but no more than that). I vaguely remember Latin classes in my sc...