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by talus
Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:34 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Tacitus Annals Book 4 interlinear translation vocabulary grammar
Replies: 3
Views: 271

Tacitus Annals Book 4 interlinear translation vocabulary grammar

This is a literal, interlinear translation with full vocabulary and with grammar notes. The Latin sentences are separated into their logical units, one logical unit to a line, with the unit's English translation beneath. This configuration makes it clear where the parts of the sentence, such as phra...
by talus
Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:42 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Supter with acc
Replies: 9
Views: 1234

Re: Supter with acc

This post reviews some early grammars on the use of the preposition supter ( subter ) for position and motion with accusative. Zumpt (1818) §295: Zumpt defines subter as "under, beneath, is used with the accusative, whether it express being in or motion to a place; it rarely occurs with the ablative...
by talus
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: What subjunctive is this? (from Livy)
Replies: 9
Views: 1420

Re: What subjunctive is this? (from Livy)

This post suggests a translation for the negative optative ne ego libenter experirer . From Livy, The History of Rome , Book 5, Chapter 9 quod ad vos attinet, tribuni plebis, minasque vestras, ne ego libenter experirer, quam non plus in iis iuris quam in vobis animi esset as far as it pertains to yo...
by talus
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: What's the function of this subjunctive?
Replies: 14
Views: 1652

Re: What's the function of this subjunctive?

This post discusses the possible meanings of the subjunctive praesit . Officium est ejus qui praeest, iis, quibus praesit, prodesse. Given that the subjunctive of the subordinate clause is paired with officium ejus in the main clause, the subjunctive can be read as implying obligation. One option is...
by talus
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Gildersleeve 597 remark 1
Replies: 4
Views: 566

Re: Gildersleeve 597 remark 1

This post proposes how it is that videret and acciperet convey Representatio . To see why this protasis/apodosis is an instance of Representatio we have to look at the context of the conditional within the full Latin sentence, specifically the part which immediately precedes the conditional. The sen...
by talus
Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:28 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Clarification on the use of ind./subj. in Seneca's "De brevitate vitae", IV
Replies: 3
Views: 713

Re: Clarification on the use of ind./subj. in Seneca's "De brevitate vitae", IV

This post is about the role of quibus in the subjunctive clause of characteristic. "One will see that words fall from men of great power, those elevated to lofty positions, who desire, extol, and set above all their blessings a life without care." [Note: videbis is the indefinite, gnomic (general tr...
by talus
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:43 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Word order for nouns and adjectives
Replies: 6
Views: 550

Re: Word order for nouns and adjectives

Draeger in his book on the style of Tacitus devotes §220 to attributive adjectives: “Attributive adjectives, not being used for purposes of stress [i.e., an adjective can be placed before a substantive for emphasis (G&L §291)], stand first, if the notion of the same is intrinsic to the idea of the r...
by talus
Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:52 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: perfect tense followed by present tense question
Replies: 3
Views: 247

Re: perfect tense followed by present tense question

Some grammarians make fine distinctions in the use of dum . Gildersleeve and Lodge distinguish between dum that is in complete coextension in time with its main clause and dum that is in partial coextension. Two examples of these two: "While it was raining, I had my umbrella up" and "While it was ra...
by talus
Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:05 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Why is the subjunctive used in this sentence?
Replies: 8
Views: 1314

Re: Why is the subjunctive used in this sentence?

"Pyrrhus, having admired the manly virtue of Fabricius, proffered to him in secret, even a fourth part of his realm, if he would desert his fatherland." [Note to the side: secreto is an adverbial use of an adjective to predicate an attribute to a person in the specific context only. The text is not ...
by talus
Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Help! Latin adjective suffix meaning like
Replies: 6
Views: 785

Re: Help! Latin adjective suffix meaning like

OLD definition 2 shows caninus, a, um , meaning "characteristic of a dog, resembling that of a dog." The word is formed from canus + inus . -nus is the actual suffix, with i added for ease of pronunciation. -nus is a common suffix added to other nouns also to create an adjective to mean "characteris...
by talus
Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:07 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Nisi Dominus custodierit domum, in vanum vigilant qui custodiunt eam
Replies: 5
Views: 862

Re: Nisi Dominus custodierit domum, in vanum vigilant qui custodiunt eam

This reply addresses the question as if the sentence were from the classical period. The reply proposes that custodierit is indicative. In a conditional, if the protasis is knowingly false or contrary to fact or is hypothetical, potential or wishful, the subjunctive is called for. If there is nothin...
by talus
Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:41 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Introduction
Replies: 1
Views: 352

Introduction

My main interest is Sallust and Tacitus. I have translated Tacitus with vocabulary list and grammar notes. I am not a formal student of Latin or Greek nor a teacher. My formal Latin and Greek is from some years ago. I see by doing a search on "Tacitus" in the Latin Forum that there are a few extende...