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by Andriko
Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:05 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The Philokalia and Climax
Replies: 6
Views: 185

Re: The Philokalia and Climax

Thanks for all the help guys - I did notice it was in modern Greek, but assumed there was another link somewhere that I had yet to decipher! And thanks for the link, jeidsath! There are a few things I want to look up in the Patrologia, but had assumed I would never find a way of getting any physical...
by Andriko
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The Philokalia and Climax
Replies: 6
Views: 185

Re: The Philokalia and Climax

Thanks Aetos. I've found a few online already as you expected, if it comes to it maybe print outs will have to do! Alternativley I can annoy my priest about it, or copy them out by hand in Greek miniscule script and make an illuminated manuscript (should I ever go mad, anyway). Maybe it is time for ...
by Andriko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:23 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Morwood, Oxford Grammar
Replies: 4
Views: 227

Re: Morwood, Oxford Grammar

I've been doing similar (carrying Morwood around for practice). From my experience, I wouldn't worry too much about an answer key for him, as I have found that reading his sentences has been a good way of testing my progress. A few months ago, I struggled with some which I now understand fine as I h...
by Andriko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek
Topic: The Philokalia and Climax
Replies: 6
Views: 185

The Philokalia and Climax

Hi all, Does anyone know where one can find physical copies of the Philokalia and the Climax of John in their original Greek? Strangley, there don't seem to be any on sale anywhere online that I can find. Does anyone know if they are published and in print in Greece or Cyprus? I've tried searching g...
by Andriko
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Too late to become a classicist?
Replies: 6
Views: 548

Re: Too late to become a classicist?

To join in with Sohtnirybal, there are many things which do not make sense until later in life, especially in the classics. For example, it is easier to understand Nostos when we are older and find ourselves so far from home.
by Andriko
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:53 am
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Too late to become a classicist?
Replies: 6
Views: 548

Re: Too late to become a classicist?

If you want to be a classicist when you grow up, then go for it. Don't let the trifle of being in your mid 30s get in the way.
by Andriko
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:48 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plato's Apology
Replies: 5
Views: 484

Re: Plato's Apology

Thanks all, I think between donhamiltontx's comment and Seneca's explanation I can see what is going on in the phrase much better now. It was, I think, a case of knowing what he is saying, but not knowing why he is saying it the way he is. Thanks for all the help, no doubt I will have many other suc...
by Andriko
Fri May 31, 2019 11:22 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plato's Apology
Replies: 5
Views: 484

Re: Plato's Apology

This is why I am confused - he seems to be saying that if they are saying that a clever speaker is one who speaks the truth, according to them he isn't a speaker. It is like he is saying that he isn't speaking the truth.
by Andriko
Thu May 30, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Plato's Apology
Replies: 5
Views: 484

Plato's Apology

Hi all, I am struggling through Plato's apology using Helm's Reader edition. I am, for the most part, keeping up and I don't mind not quite getting everything as yet, but there is one part (the bold in the quote) which is really bugging me: εἰ μὲν γὰρ τοῦτο λέγουσιν, ὁμολογοίην ἂν ἔγωγε οὐ κατὰ τούτ...
by Andriko
Sat May 25, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Most literal translations with facing texts?
Replies: 22
Views: 1510

Re: Most literal translations with facing texts?

I have found this from atticgreek.org to be helpful: http://atticgreek.org/downloads/Transitioning.pdf The best piece of advise I have gained from there is to read the (English) introductions and commentaries, and also to research the subject matter and history a little before reading the Greek text...
by Andriko
Sat May 18, 2019 3:54 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Learning French in Middle Age
Replies: 6
Views: 1172

Re: Learning French in Middle Age

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/30/opinion/contributors/learning-french-in-middle-age.html The author's experience with middle age language learning hasn't really been my own. In fact, I think that the adult version of myself has some advantages compared to my younger version. I feel the same - I m...
by Andriko
Thu May 16, 2019 2:10 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: After Mastronarde
Replies: 7
Views: 849

Re: After Mastronarde

should I just dive in and start tackling a text in all it's Hellenic glory, and hustle through as best I can, ... is working through another text book just a good way to avoid the inevitable confrontation with the real thing? You seem pretty self-confident as well as realistic, so I agree with Dant...
by Andriko
Fri May 10, 2019 6:33 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Beginner greek principle parts.
Replies: 4
Views: 544

Re: Beginner greek principle parts.

I would start by reading the appendix that he has included on principle parts, as it will give you some clues as to how to work out which verb a principle part belongs too (though principle parts can be highly irregular). As for how many to memorise, the first 3 are the ones that come up most often ...
by Andriko
Fri May 10, 2019 6:28 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: After Mastronarde
Replies: 7
Views: 849

After Mastronarde

I am upto chapter 30 of Mastonarde, and, work permitting, will hopefully finish it in the next 2 months, and am now wondering what to do afterwards. Ideally I'd like to get to a point where I am reading with confidence, though suspect this will take a while (though I hope not too long, as I would li...
by Andriko
Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: The Hellenistic Period
Replies: 6
Views: 1003

Re: The Hellenistic Period

Thanks for the help guys!

And thanks anphph - I am aware of the distinction, though was hoping I was being clear enough.
by Andriko
Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:33 pm
Forum: Civilization and Culture of the Greeks and Romans
Topic: The Hellenistic Period
Replies: 6
Views: 1003

The Hellenistic Period

Does anyone know of any good books (English and anceint sources) or youtube lectures concerning the Hellenistic period (and upto about 600ad)? It was a great period of enquiry, philosophy, art and cultural fusion, especially in Alexandria, but my searches on Amazon suggest that it is an almost entir...
by Andriko
Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: How to improve English -> Greek translations
Replies: 2
Views: 289

Re: How to improve English -> Greek translations

I have found that with Mastronarde, Subject, object, indirect object, verb usually produces similar results to the answer book, and I beleive that earlier in the text book they mention this structure is being generally the most common. If I remember correctly, it is also mentioned that there are alw...
by Andriko
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Reading Suggestions
Replies: 7
Views: 725

Re: Reading Suggestions

Just wanted to say thanks again and ask for some more suggestions - I am really enjoying Helm's edition, and can get through the preliminary section more or less fluently now (next section gets a bit tougher!). Would any of you recommend any 'unseen' readers, and so on? It's be nice to have pick and...
by Andriko
Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Offended by modern phonology in Ancient Greek classroom
Replies: 38
Views: 14898

Re: Offended by modern phonology in Ancient Greek classroom

I think a similar case exists with Latin, as whenever I hear people using it, it is usually pronounced in their own tongue (Sisero or Chichero instead of Kikero, for example). My experience of Latin speakers has not included a single one till date (who prided himself on ability to speak Latin) that...
by Andriko
Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:51 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Superlatives, μεν...δε
Replies: 1
Views: 211

Superlatives, μεν...δε

Wasn't sure if this should go here or the composition board (this is hardly a composition!). Anyway, instead of sleeping I am trying to construct a simple phrase, using superlative, particles, and omitting the 'to be' verb and not sure if I have understood things right. For the adjectives, do I have...
by Andriko
Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Offended by modern phonology in Ancient Greek classroom
Replies: 38
Views: 14898

Re: Offended by modern phonology in Ancient Greek classroom

Not that I have much to add to the wonderful points already made, but in defence of Greeks using modern Greek pronuciation, as Michael mentions, Ancient Greek is a language that is only really going to be read, and so for a modern Greek it would be a bit of a wasted effort to learn the ancient pronu...
by Andriko
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:19 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Reading Suggestions
Replies: 7
Views: 725

Re: Reading Suggestions

Thanks for the help guys, some brilliant suggestions. I have got Helm's 'Apology', which I am slowly working my way through (in a lackadaisical and casual way). I'm mostly getting the rough gist, so it's nice to see how I've improving (the last time I looked at this, all I understood was 'Athenian m...
by Andriko
Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Reading Suggestions
Replies: 7
Views: 725

Re: Reading Suggestions

Thanks Barry. Lucian does look like a good laugh!

I have also found them with free pdf's at http://www.faenumpublishing.com/available-texts.html

Thanks,

A
by Andriko
Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Reading Suggestions
Replies: 7
Views: 725

Reading Suggestions

Hi all, I am at a point where I can read the bible (more or less), and would like to step it up a notch. It has already been suggested here that I try Xenophon, but I was curious if there was anything else that would be fun and interesting? For example, is there a good Platonic dialogue that might b...
by Andriko
Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: Thomas Saunders Evans writing Greek and Latin poetry by age 12
Replies: 3
Views: 733

Re: Thomas Saunders Evans writing Greek and Latin poetry by age 12

How were children instructed in Greek and Latin in the 18th and early 19th century that allowed them a degree of mastery of the language thzt challenges most of us now? Seeing as the younger brain is wired to learn languages much better than adult ones, I suspect that any child learning any languag...
by Andriko
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:35 pm
Forum: Composition Board
Topic: The Elephants were laughing (at my bad Greek)
Replies: 0
Views: 364

The Elephants were laughing (at my bad Greek)

This is a poem that my father has been telling me for years, which he heard at a camp fire at 4am in the 70s. The original is in modern Greek (which is worse than my Ancient Greek, which is embarrassing for a Greek), though I have attempted to translate it as a test of my skills. I apologise for not...
by Andriko
Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: Greek Textbooks and Study Groups
Topic: Favorite Greek Textbooks?
Replies: 13
Views: 8865

Re: Favorite Greek Textbooks?

I use Anne H Groton's 'Alpha to Omega', which is broken up into 50 chapters, and is reasonabley clear at explaining the concepts, and was written (according to the introduction) to get students ready to read Attic Greek in one semester. The biggest disadvatage, however, is that the excersises, espec...
by Andriko
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:03 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Participles and middle/passive
Replies: 5
Views: 652

Re: Participles and middle/passive

This is brilliant, thanks for the help guys.

I will go and get myself Xenophon's Anabasis and see what I can manage.
by Andriko
Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:56 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Participles and middle/passive
Replies: 5
Views: 652

Participles and middle/passive

Χαιρετε, I have been teaching myself ancient greek using Anne Groton's alpha to Omega, and am half way through, and am struggling mainly with participles - I understand what they are (mostly), but am not 100% on how they work, and I think it's now a matter of seeing them used more often than the 10 ...