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by marcovlatinforum
Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: How to read a grammar like CGCG?
Replies: 3
Views: 285

Re: How to read a grammar like CGCG?

Thank you for answering, @RandyGibbons. Regarding the grammar textbook , I think I misused this word. I'm not a native speaker, you're right when you say that a textbook is more properly a pedagogically oriented work. This was in fact not what I had in mind. (A grammar book that would present names ...
by marcovlatinforum
Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: How to read a grammar like CGCG?
Replies: 3
Views: 285

How to read a grammar like CGCG?

Hi Textkit! I am sorry if this question was already asked here, of if it is not suited for this board at all (I tried some googling, but surely there was not lots of interesting stuff regarding this). Two or three months ago I started reading the first volume of (the Italian edition of) Ἀθήνᾱζε , co...
by marcovlatinforum
Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:54 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Clarification on the use of ind./subj. in Seneca's "De brevitate vitae", IV
Replies: 3
Views: 711

Clarification on the use of ind./subj. in Seneca's "De brevitate vitae", IV

Hi Textkit. In the following passage, taken form Seneca's De brevitate vitae , IV : Potentissimis et in altum sublatis hominibus excidere voces videbis, quibus otium optent , laudent , omnibus bonis suis praeferant . the presence of the three subjunctives is a little confusing to me. Seems it is som...
by marcovlatinforum
Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Eius vs Suus-a-um in Psalm 1
Replies: 4
Views: 555

Re: Eius vs Suus-a-um in Psalm 1

I'm a newbie, so take my answer with a grain of salt! In sed in lege domini voluntas eius , seems to me that the subject is voluntas , and the verb ( est ) is omitted. In other words, I wold read the passage like: Beatus vir qui non abiit in consilio impiorum et in via peccatorum non stetit et in ca...
by marcovlatinforum
Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Ἀθήνᾱζε Α, "Τὰ γὰρ πρόβατα ἐν τῷ αὐλίῳ ἑστίν"
Replies: 3
Views: 508

Re: Ἀθήνᾱζε Α, "Τὰ γὰρ πρόβατα ἐν τῷ αὐλίῳ ἑστίν"

Thank you, @bedwere. Unfortunately this is not signaled in the marginal notes. There'll probably be an explanation later in the book.
by marcovlatinforum
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Ἀθήνᾱζε Α, "Τὰ γὰρ πρόβατα ἐν τῷ αὐλίῳ ἑστίν"
Replies: 3
Views: 508

Ἀθήνᾱζε Α, "Τὰ γὰρ πρόβατα ἐν τῷ αὐλίῳ ἑστίν"

[...] ο μεν γαρ Φιλιππος τα προβατα θεραπευει· τὰ γὰρ πρόβατα ἐν τῷ αὐλίῳ ἑστίν. This sentence appears at page 55 in the Italian edition of Ἀθήνᾱζε Α . Τὰ προβατα seems nominative plural of the neuter noun το προβατον , this is quite clear form the context. Is the use third singular of εἰμί (instead...
by marcovlatinforum
Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:53 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Real word greek works to read (in one's own native language) alongside Ἀθήνᾱζε A
Replies: 4
Views: 684

Re: Real word greek works to read (in one's own native language) alongside Ἀθήνᾱζε A

Thank you all for the answers.

Regarding the dialect, I'm curious if also works written in the Koiné dialect could be suitable for my purpose, since I've heard that Hellenistic prose tend to be simpler and paratactic (but kind of different when comes to vocabulary).
by marcovlatinforum
Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:59 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Real word greek works to read (in one's own native language) alongside Ἀθήνᾱζε A
Replies: 4
Views: 684

Real word greek works to read (in one's own native language) alongside Ἀθήνᾱζε A

Hello there! I've just finished the third chapter of... Ἀθήνᾱζε (!) and really enjoyed the reading. I'm planning to finish the first volume in six months (I'm actually quite sure that the difficulty in the presented material is going to grow much faster after the first few chapters), and I would lik...
by marcovlatinforum
Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:07 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Nisi Dominus custodierit domum, in vanum vigilant qui custodiunt eam
Replies: 5
Views: 862

Re: Nisi Dominus custodierit domum, in vanum vigilant qui custodiunt eam

Thank you all for the answers. I have actually noticed that my grammar textbook doesn't include the couple "subjunctive (protasis) + indicative (apodosis)". Is this combination used (correctly) in other places of (classical) latin? Is it correct to say that, in a conditional clause, apart from a few...
by marcovlatinforum
Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Nisi Dominus custodierit domum, in vanum vigilant qui custodiunt eam
Replies: 5
Views: 862

Nisi Dominus custodierit domum, in vanum vigilant qui custodiunt eam

Hello there. I'm not totally confortable with conditional clauses yet, and the sentence in the title makes me a little confusion. I'm wondering about use of the perf. subj.in the protasis. The common translation for this example goes as "Unless the Lord guard the house, in vain do they watch who gua...
by marcovlatinforum
Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:13 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Question on comparatives & Eutropius, Breviarium historiae Romanae, Incipit.
Replies: 2
Views: 543

Re: Question on comparatives & Eutropius, Breviarium historiae Romanae, Incipit.

Thank you for the answer! (Unfortunately I still find Caesar a bit difficult: I'm planning to read it after I finish Familia Romana).
by marcovlatinforum
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:28 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Question on comparatives & Eutropius, Breviarium historiae Romanae, Incipit.
Replies: 2
Views: 543

Question on comparatives & Eutropius, Breviarium historiae Romanae, Incipit.

Hi Textkit! I'm finding the incipit of the first book of Eutropius' Breviarium a little problematic: Romanum imperium, quo neque ab exordio ullum fere minus neque incrementis toto orbe amplius humana potest memoria recordari, a Romulo exordium habet, [...] I think I need to briefly analyze the gramm...
by marcovlatinforum
Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:24 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: P. Vergilius Maro, Aeneid, XII, 604 and ff.
Replies: 12
Views: 1422

Re: P. Vergilius Maro, Aeneid, XII, 604 and ff.

@mwh So you would translate it as "Lavinia ... mistreating [form the "middle" perf. participle] the cheeks"? I think this still makes sense.
by marcovlatinforum
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: P. Vergilius Maro, Aeneid, XII, 604 and ff.
Replies: 12
Views: 1422

Re: P. Vergilius Maro, Aeneid, XII, 604 and ff.

Sorry for a more basic question but is the “accusative of specification” what might be called (by me at least) the “accusative of respect” in Greek. I found this use of accusative be called "accusative of respect" (it. "accusativo di relazione") also in a Latin grammar. I think, is that laniata her...
by marcovlatinforum
Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: P. Vergilius Maro, Aeneid, XII, 604 and ff.
Replies: 12
Views: 1422

Re: P. Vergilius Maro, Aeneid, XII, 604 and ff.

Thank you for answering, @mwh. I think I'm quite comfortable with the use of the accusative of specification (or "Greek accusative"). What I was trying to figure out instead (and rereading my previous message I must admit that this was not so clear), was the differences between the use of the verb i...
by marcovlatinforum
Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:06 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: P. Vergilius Maro, Aeneid, XII, 604 and ff.
Replies: 12
Views: 1422

Re: P. Vergilius Maro, Aeneid, XII, 604 and ff.

Thank you for the answer, @Hylander. I unfortunately don't know anything of the Greek language at the moment, but I think I've found something similar to the "middle" voice in the past (the verb moveo for example, which can be used in the middle form moveor to indicate the act of involuntary movemen...
by marcovlatinforum
Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: P. Vergilius Maro, Aeneid, XII, 604 and ff.
Replies: 12
Views: 1422

P. Vergilius Maro, Aeneid, XII, 604 and ff.

Hello Textkit, I've recently encountered the following verses from the Aeneid : Quam cladem miserae postquam accepere Latinae, filia prima manu flavos Lavinia crinis et roseas laniata genas, tum cetera circum turba furit: resonant late plangoribus aedes. and I'm having some troubles going into the g...
by marcovlatinforum
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:54 pm
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ørberg textbooks for an italian learner
Replies: 2
Views: 783

Re: Ørberg textbooks for an italian learner

Hi Randy, thank you for answering! But if you just can't "get into" the story [..] When I said that I found the first six chapters of the text (the only I have read until now) "quite trivial", I was not referring to the story (It's not like I expected to read Cicero the first time :mrgreen: ). What ...
by marcovlatinforum
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:52 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Introduction
Replies: 3
Views: 804

Re: Introduction

Thank you!
by marcovlatinforum
Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:29 am
Forum: Learning Latin
Topic: Ørberg textbooks for an italian learner
Replies: 2
Views: 783

Ørberg textbooks for an italian learner

Hi everyone! As said in my presentation post, I'm an Italian guy. I have some knowledge of the Latin language obtained from standard grammar textbooks: I know declensions, something about periphrastic, ect... but, to provide a basis for comparison, I still find difficult to translate Caesar's work. ...
by marcovlatinforum
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:51 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: Introduction
Replies: 3
Views: 804

Introduction

Salvete. First of all, I apologize for my bad English. I'm an Italian guy with some interest in the learning of classics and, at the moment, especially in the Latin language. My attentions to Latin may also include (but as said in the line above, are not limited to) some (philosophical) texts form X...