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by madhg
Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:09 pm
Forum: Greek Textbooks and Study Groups
Topic: Favorite Greek Textbooks?
Replies: 13
Views: 9789

Re: Favorite Greek Textbooks?

Well, I have to confess that as I get further into Ruck's book, I'm finding it more difficult. Having read good things about the JACT from various sources (including this forum, and the fact that the UK Open University beginning Greek course uses it), I plan to switch to that, and keep Ruck as a hig...
by madhg
Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:05 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Genitive with verbal nouns.
Replies: 9
Views: 1952

Re: Genitive with verbal nouns.

Thanks for your helpful reply mwh. Your explanation of subjective and objective genitives puts Barry's mention of the term objective genitive in context. I think I understand this now, and am getting on with the rest of the chapter and the exercises.

best wishes,
David
by madhg
Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:48 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Genitive with verbal nouns.
Replies: 9
Views: 1952

Re: Genitive with verbal nouns.

Thank you Barry, that's very helpful. The phrase "love of money" carries the idea of loving money. That's where the "verbal noun" bit comes in. There's a similar example further down in Ruck: τοῦ ὕδατος ἐπιθυμία. His βασιλεύω ἀνδρῶν example is not so straightforward because the verb and the noun cor...
by madhg
Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:36 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Genitive with verbal nouns.
Replies: 9
Views: 1952

Re: Genitive with verbal nouns.

Thanks for the links. I wasn't aware of the b-greek forum. It seems to be a complicated topic. I'll read what Carl Conrad has to say.
by madhg
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:19 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: Genitive with verbal nouns.
Replies: 9
Views: 1952

Genitive with verbal nouns.

I'm confused by the following passage from Carl Ruck's Ancient Greek, in the chapter on the genitive case (2nd Ed. p.41). He defines a verbal noun as a noun with the same root as a verb, such as βασιλεύς. Then he says: Therefore the phrase βασιλεύς ἀνδρῶν could mean either "men's king" (the possessi...
by madhg
Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:45 pm
Forum: Greek Textbooks and Study Groups
Topic: Favorite Greek Textbooks?
Replies: 13
Views: 9789

Re: Favorite Greek Textbooks?

I very much like the second edition of Carl A. P. Ruck's "Ancient Greek: a new approach", MIT Press. I haven't seen the 1st edition; the 2nd ed. (1979) says that it has been changed a lot "both to offer more help to the self-learner and to make the text usable not only as a beginning method but also...
by madhg
Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:50 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: "Continuing beginner" question
Replies: 7
Views: 1719

Re: "Continuing beginner" question

Thanks for this tip, Randy, I'll remember it,

best wishes,
David
by madhg
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:04 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: "Continuing beginner" question
Replies: 7
Views: 1719

Re: "Continuing beginner" question

Thanks for confirming, all best,
David
by madhg
Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:33 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: "Continuing beginner" question
Replies: 7
Views: 1719

Re: "Continuing beginner" question

and just to check - the last phrase would be something like "but unwise are [or perhaps:can be] all we men and women"?
by madhg
Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:24 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: New member
Replies: 3
Views: 1170

Re: New member

Thank you both for your friendly replies. As for hobbies - well, since retiring from full-time work I've become a part-time teacher (maths) for the Open University, and continue to play early keyboards (harpsichord, clavichord). Greek is different enough from both of those things to be refreshing! T...
by madhg
Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:07 pm
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: "Continuing beginner" question
Replies: 7
Views: 1719

Re: "Continuing beginner" question

Thank you, very helpful. I'll now try to remember that when there are two nominatives, if one doesn't make sense as the subject of ἐστι, the other one might.
by madhg
Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:38 am
Forum: Learning Greek
Topic: "Continuing beginner" question
Replies: 7
Views: 1719

"Continuing beginner" question

Hello, I've introduced myself on the Open Board; in a nutshell: I've had an elementary course based on reading Greek, not writing, grammar hasn't stuck in my head, so I'm slowly working through Carl Ruck's "Ancient Greek". It looks as if I'm in a minority on this board, as a beginner, and I hope you...
by madhg
Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:48 pm
Forum: Open Board
Topic: New member
Replies: 3
Views: 1170

New member

Hello all, I did 2 years of Greek at school and enjoyed it. I've been reading various translations of Homer over the years (admiring the Iliad and thoroughly enjoying the Odyssey). I retired from full-time work some years ago, and recently learnt about an excellent adult-education class in ancient G...